IRC log of wai-wcag on 2006-05-18
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, do not start a new log
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006AprJun/0199.html
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- Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- zakim, unmute wendy
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- Wendy should no longer be muted
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- Regrets: Roberto_Scano, Loretta_Guarino-Reid
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- agenda+ announcements
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "announcements" taken up [from ben]
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- scribe: David
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- agenda+ Last Call Comments Processing and new tools
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- agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A for 18 May 2006
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- agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team C for 18 May 2006
- 20:17:08 [judy]
- zakim, please mute wendy
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- Wendy should now be muted
- 20:19:38 [ben]
- zakim, make log world
- 20:19:38 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'make log world', ben
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- RRSAgent, make log world
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 1 closed
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- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. Last Call Comments Processing and new tools [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 2
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- agendum 2. "Last Call Comments Processing and new tools" taken up [from ben]
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- Comments View: http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/comments/viewdata_all.php
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- zakim, mute me
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- Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
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- sorry, zakim said "the passcode is not valid"
- 20:37:38 [ben]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:37:38 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Wendy (muted), Bengt_Farre, David_MacDonald, Ben_Gregg, Soorcha_Moore, Don_Evans, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe (muted), ??P7, Judy, Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic
- 20:37:41 [Zakim]
- ... (muted), Becky_Gibson, [IBM], Alex_Li, Cynthia_Shelley?
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- zakim, ??P7 is probably Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea?; got it
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- zakim, [IBM] is Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
- 20:41:56 [judy]
- q?
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- zakim, unmute wendy
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- Wendy should no longer be muted
- 20:43:27 [judy]
- zakim, mute wendy
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- Wendy should now be muted
- 20:45:30 [ben]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 2 closed
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- I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 3. Last Call Issues from Team A for 18 May 2006 [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3. "Last Call Issues from Team A for 18 May 2006" taken up [from ben]
- 20:48:11 [David]
- zakim, mute me
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- David_MacDonald should now be muted
- 20:48:21 [rellero]
- sorry cannot login passcode not valid, bye
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- zakim, unmute me
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- David_MacDonald should no longer be muted
- 20:54:26 [gregg]
- ack w
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- zakim, mute wendy
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- Wendy should now be muted
- 20:55:02 [David]
- resolution: accept proposed resolutions for issues LC-512, LC-463, LC-506, LC-513, LC-484, LC-487, LC494, LC-492, LC-493
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- Topic: LC-464
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- +Alex_Li.a
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- -Alex_Li
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- ack a
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- ack cy
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- ack k
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- resolution: issue 464 reopened and sent back to working group
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- zakim, unmute me
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- Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
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- Topic: LC-483
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- Resolution: close LC-483 as proposed...resolved yes
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- Topic: 486
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- >Topic: LC-486
- 21:16:46 [judy]
- +1 for frequent fliers ;)
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- resolution: leave LC-486 is left open for further consideration
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- Topic LC-511
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- ack cy
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- ACK W
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- -Don_Evans
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- -Tim_Boland
- 21:33:12 [David]
- resolution: accept recommended resolution to LC-511 and add an advisory technique that recommends not to use text images in CSS
- 21:34:26 [David]
- action: Cynthia, will write an advisory technique to not use text images as per resolution in LC-511
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 3 closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 4. Last Call Issues from Team C for 18 May 2006 [from ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 4
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- agendum 4. "Last Call Issues from Team C for 18 May 2006" taken up [from ben]
- 21:35:29 [David]
- Topic: LC-485
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- RRSAgent, pointer?
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- See http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-irc#T21-38-45
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- ack w
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- q+
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- zakim, mute wendy
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- Wendy was already muted, wen-away
- 21:47:12 [David]
- resolution: close the issue, and reply that we are unable to identify ways to mark audio so that AT could ignore it. requesting suggestions from the commenter.
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- -Cynthia_Shelley?
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- Topic: LC-488
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- resolution: accept proposed change to GL 1.3 "Ensure that information and relationships can be separated from presentation"
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- Topic: LC-490
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- -Michael_Cooper
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- -Soorcha_Moore
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- q+
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- +[IPcaller]
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- ack d
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- ipcaller: sorcha_moore
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- zakim, [IPcaller is Sorcha_Moore
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- +Sorcha_Moore; got it
- 22:04:08 [David]
- resolution: change the definition of "presentation" from structure to relationship "rendering of the content and relationships in a form that can be perceived by the user" and reserch definitions of relationships
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- action: David and Katie to propose a definition of relationships
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- resolution: refer LC 491 back to team C
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- Present: Wendy_Chisholm, Bengt_Farre, David_MacDonald, Ben_Caldwell, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Soorcha_Moore, Don_Evans, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Judy_Brewer, Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic, Becky_Gibson, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Alex_Li, Cynthia_Shelley
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- -Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- -Sorcha_Moore
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- -Alex_Li.a
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- -Becky_Gibson
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea?
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- -Wendy
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Ben_Gregg
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Judy
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Wendy, +073573aaaa, David_MacDonald, [IPcaller], Bengt_Farre, Sorcha_Moore, Don_Evans, Ben_Gregg, Michael_Cooper, Soorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Judy,
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- ... Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic, Becky_Gibson, Alex_Li, Cynthia_Shelley?, Katie_Haritos-Shea?, Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- 22:32:39 [gregg]
- rrsagent,bye
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- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Cynthia, will write an advisory technique to not use text images as per resolution in LC-511 [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-irc#T21-34-26
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- ACTION: David and Katie to propose a definition of relationships [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-irc#T22-04-39