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20:12:23 <ben> RRSAgent, do not start a new log
20:12:29 <ben> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
20:13:00 <ben> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006AprJun/0199.html
20:13:49 <ben> Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:14:05 <judy> zakim, unmute wendy
20:14:05 <Zakim> Wendy should no longer be muted
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20:15:08 <ben> Regrets: Roberto_Scano, Loretta_Guarino-Reid
20:15:16 <ben> agenda+ announcements
20:15:23 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 1
20:15:23 <Zakim> agendum 1. "announcements" taken up [from ben]
20:15:26 <ben> scribe: David
20:15:45 <ben> agenda+ Last Call Comments Processing and new tools
20:15:53 <ben> agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team A for 18 May 2006
20:16:03 <ben> agenda+ Last Call Issues from Team C for 18 May 2006
20:17:08 <judy> zakim, please mute wendy
20:17:08 <Zakim> Wendy should now be muted
20:19:38 <ben> zakim, make log world
20:19:38 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make log world', ben
20:19:48 <ben> RRSAgent, make log world
20:22:48 <ben> zakim, close this item
20:22:48 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
20:22:49 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:22:50 <Zakim> 2. Last Call Comments Processing and new tools [from ben]
20:22:54 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 2
20:22:54 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Last Call Comments Processing and new tools" taken up [from ben]
20:23:12 <ben> Comments View: http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/comments/viewdata_all.php
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20:26:23 <Christophe> zakim, mute me
20:26:23 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
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20:35:05 <rellero> sorry, zakim said "the passcode is not valid"
20:37:38 <ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:37:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see Wendy (muted), Bengt_Farre, David_MacDonald, Ben_Gregg, Soorcha_Moore, Don_Evans, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe (muted), ??P7, Judy, Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic
20:37:41 <Zakim> ... (muted), Becky_Gibson, [IBM], Alex_Li, Cynthia_Shelley?
20:38:37 <ben> zakim, ??P7 is probably Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:38:37 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea?; got it
20:39:06 <ben> zakim, [IBM] is Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:39:06 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
20:41:56 <judy> q?
20:42:15 <judy> zakim, unmute wendy
20:42:15 <Zakim> Wendy should no longer be muted
20:43:27 <judy> zakim, mute wendy
20:43:27 <Zakim> Wendy should now be muted
20:45:30 <ben> zakim, close this item
20:45:30 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
20:45:31 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:45:32 <Zakim> 3. Last Call Issues from Team A for 18 May 2006 [from ben]
20:45:37 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 3
20:45:37 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Last Call Issues from Team A for 18 May 2006" taken up [from ben]
20:48:11 <David> zakim, mute me
20:48:11 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should now be muted
20:48:21 <rellero>  sorry cannot login passcode not valid, bye
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20:49:22 <David> zakim, unmute me
20:49:22 <Zakim> David_MacDonald should no longer be muted
20:54:26 <gregg> ack w
20:54:48 <ben> zakim, mute wendy
20:54:48 <Zakim> Wendy should now be muted
20:55:02 <David> resolution: accept proposed resolutions for issues LC-512, LC-463, LC-506, LC-513, LC-484, LC-487, LC494, LC-492, LC-493
20:55:46 <ben> Topic: LC-464
20:59:49 <Zakim> +Alex_Li.a
21:00:04 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
21:05:27 <gregg> ack a
21:05:30 <gregg> ack cy
21:05:33 <gregg> ack k
21:07:08 <David> resolution: issue 464 reopened and sent back to working group
21:07:11 <Christophe> zakim, unmute me
21:07:11 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
21:07:30 <ben> Topic: LC-483
21:13:58 <David> Resolution: close LC-483 as proposed...resolved yes
21:14:18 <David> Topic: 486
21:14:32 <David> >	Topic: LC-486
21:16:46 <judy> +1 for frequent fliers ;)
21:18:01 <David> resolution: leave LC-486 is left open for further consideration
21:18:54 <David> Topic LC-511
21:20:19 <gregg> ack cy
21:23:38 <gregg> ACK W
21:30:52 <Zakim> -Don_Evans
21:33:02 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:33:12 <David> resolution: accept recommended resolution to LC-511 and add an advisory technique that recommends not to use text images in CSS
21:34:26 <David> action: Cynthia, will write an advisory technique to not use text images as per resolution in LC-511
21:35:09 <ben> zakim, take up agendum 4
21:35:09 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Last Call Issues from Team C for 18 May 2006" taken up [from ben]
21:35:29 <David> Topic: LC-485
21:38:45 <ben> RRSAgent, pointer?
21:38:45 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-irc#T21-38-45
21:41:05 <gregg> ack w
21:43:20 <David> q+
21:44:49 <wen-away> zakim, mute wendy
21:44:49 <Zakim> Wendy was already muted, wen-away
21:47:12 <David> resolution: close the issue, and reply that we are unable to identify ways to mark audio so that AT could ignore it. requesting suggestions from the commenter.
21:48:45 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelley?
21:49:16 <David> Topic: LC-488
21:52:22 <David> resolution: accept proposed change to GL 1.3 "Ensure that information and relationships can be separated from presentation"
21:54:04 <David> Topic: LC-490
21:54:31 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
21:58:12 <Zakim> -Soorcha_Moore
21:58:55 <David> q+
21:59:20 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
21:59:32 <gregg> ack d
21:59:37 <Sorcha> ipcaller: sorcha_moore
21:59:57 <bengt> zakim, [IPcaller is Sorcha_Moore
21:59:57 <Zakim> +Sorcha_Moore; got it
22:04:08 <David> resolution: change the definition of  "presentation" from structure to relationship "rendering of the content and relationships in a form that can be perceived by the user" and reserch definitions of relationships
22:04:39 <David> action: David and Katie to propose a definition of relationships
22:05:52 <David> resolution: refer LC 491 back to team C
22:07:35 <ben> Present: Wendy_Chisholm, Bengt_Farre, David_MacDonald, Ben_Caldwell, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Soorcha_Moore, Don_Evans, Michael_Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Judy_Brewer, Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic, Becky_Gibson, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Alex_Li, Cynthia_Shelley 
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22:14:50 <Zakim> -Becky_Gibson
22:14:51 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea?
22:14:52 <Zakim> -Wendy
22:14:53 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
22:14:54 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
22:14:55 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
22:14:57 <Zakim> -Ben_Gregg
22:14:58 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
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22:18:23 <Zakim> -Judy
22:18:24 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
22:18:26 <Zakim> Attendees were Wendy, +073573aaaa, David_MacDonald, [IPcaller], Bengt_Farre, Sorcha_Moore, Don_Evans, Ben_Gregg, Michael_Cooper, Soorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Judy,
22:18:28 <Zakim> ... Tim_Boland, Sofia_Celic, Becky_Gibson, Alex_Li, Cynthia_Shelley?, Katie_Haritos-Shea?, Andi_Snow-Weaver
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22:32:39 <gregg> rrsagent,bye
22:32:39 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
22:32:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cynthia, will write an advisory technique to not use text images as per resolution in LC-511 [1]
22:32:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-irc#T21-34-26
22:32:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David and Katie to propose a definition of relationships [2]
22:32:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/05/18-wai-wcag-irc#T22-04-39