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20:03:10 <wendy> zakim, drop wendy
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20:03:16 <ben_> RRSAgent, make log world
20:03:26 <Zakim> +Wendy
20:03:30 <ben_> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
20:03:36 <Sorcha> ip caller sorcha moore
20:03:38 <wendy> zakim, drop wendy
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20:03:58 <rscano> zakim, [IP is Sorcha_Moore
20:03:58 <Zakim> +Sorcha_Moore; got it
20:04:00 <ben_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006AprJun/0059.html
20:04:06 <ben_> Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden and John_Slatin
20:04:08 <Zakim> +Wendy
20:04:13 <ben_> Regrets: Judy_Brewer, Luca_Mascaro, Marco_Bertoni
20:05:08 <ben_> scribe: Andi
20:05:24 <ben_> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:05:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see Katie, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Scano (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, John_Slatin, Doyle_Burnett, Loretta_Guarino_Reid,
20:05:27 <Zakim> ... Christophe_Strobbe, Becky_Gibson, Gregg_and_Ben, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Wendy
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20:05:55 <gregg> /me the perception of the color attributes is essential to
20:05:55 <gregg> understanding a piece of content
20:06:16 <ben_> zakim, Doyle_Burnett is pobably Tim_Boland
20:06:16 <Zakim> I don't understand 'Doyle_Burnett is pobably Tim_Boland', ben_
20:06:17 <Zakim> +??P19
20:06:38 <ben_> zakim, ??P19 is Cynthia_Shelly
20:06:38 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:06:55 <ben_> zakim, Doyle_Burnett is Tim_Boland
20:06:55 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland; got it
20:08:21 <Andi> topic: proposal for change to definition of phrase "information that is conveyed by color"
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20:10:28 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
20:10:33 <Andi> resolution: change definition of phrase "information that is conveyed by color" to "information presented in a manner that depends on the ability to perceive color"
20:15:05 <Andi> Topic: Update on status/abstract
20:16:12 <Andi> ack alex
20:17:19 <Andi> ack katie
20:18:51 <Christophe> zakim, mute me
20:18:51 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
20:19:09 <gregg> ack j
20:20:59 <ben_> ack T
20:21:07 <ben_> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:21:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Katie, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Scano (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, John_Slatin, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid,
20:21:11 <Zakim> ... Christophe_Strobbe (muted), Becky_Gibson, Gregg_and_Ben, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Wendy, Cynthia_Shelly, Sofia_Celic (muted)
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20:25:05 <gregg> ack k
20:25:37 <ben_> ack Alex
20:27:47 <Andi> Topic: Update on Intro/Conformance
20:31:21 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:32:32 <gregg> ACK K
20:32:50 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:33:06 <Andi> Topic: Updated Requirements Doc <http://tinyurl.com/mkdlm>
20:34:00 <gregg> ACK K
20:34:50 <Andi> Resolution: Adopt Requirements Doc with discussed edits <http://tinyurl.com/mkdlm>
20:36:35 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:37:14 <Andi> Topic: Misc. Questions for 20 April Telecon  Survey: <http://tinyurl.com/pr8u8>
20:37:44 <wendy> q+ to say that should record not only resolution to adopt requirements but to publish an updated working draft.
20:38:08 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:38:45 <Andi> Topic: Proposed GENERAL FAILURE Technique for How to meet 3.2.1: Using "activate" rather than "focus" as a trigger for changes of context
20:42:45 <Andi> the item on the questionnaire was misidentified as a failure; it's actually a general technique
20:43:05 <Andi> resolution: accept technique with modified example: A page pops up a new window only when the user clicks(or uses spacebar) on a button rather than using onfocus to pop up a new window.
20:43:46 <Andi> Topic: Proposed SCRIPT Technique for How to meet 3.2.5: Using an onchange event on a select element without causing a change of context
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20:46:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:46:24 <Makoto> zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
20:46:24 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
20:49:54 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald.a
20:50:42 <Makoto> zakim, mute me
20:50:42 <Zakim> Makoto_Ueki should now be muted
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20:51:20 <Christophe> zakim, unmute me
20:51:20 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
20:53:02 <Andi> resolution: Accept with edits: Modify step 3 to "Check that the matching option values are displayed in the other select element." Modify step 5 to "Check that the the matching option values are still displayed in the associated element."
20:53:38 <Andi> Topic: Proposed GENERAL FAILURE Technique for How to meet 4.1.1: Failure due to insufficient information in DOM to determine one-to-one relationships (e.g., between labels with same id)
20:55:17 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:56:45 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:58:48 <wendy> q?
20:58:54 <Andi> resolution: accept with edits by Christophe
20:59:05 <wendy> ack we
20:59:05 <Zakim> wendy, you wanted to say that should record not only resolution to adopt requirements but to publish an updated working draft.
21:00:13 <Andi> Topic: Requirements doc revisited
21:00:23 <Andi> resolution: adopt requirements document and publish as a note
21:01:07 <Andi> topic: introduction/conformance
21:01:16 <Andi> resolution: adopt introduction/conformance as edited
21:02:06 <Andi> resolution: editorial changes on LC drafts okay without group review
21:02:46 <Becky> some people have been spending time creating pages rather than reviewing them :-)
21:09:04 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:10:49 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:12:14 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:12:20 <Zakim> -Becky_Gibson
21:12:22 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
21:12:23 <Zakim> -John_Slatin
21:12:24 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
21:12:25 <Zakim> -Katie
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21:12:26 <Zakim> -Wendy
21:12:28 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
21:12:29 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald.a
21:12:30 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
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21:12:34 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
21:12:36 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
21:12:37 <ben_> Present:  Katie_Haritos-Shea, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Scano, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, John_Slatin, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Christophe_Strobbe, Becky_Gibson, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Wendy_Chisholm, Cynthia_Shelly, Sofia_Celic, Makoto_Ueki
21:12:37 <Zakim> -Makoto_Ueki
21:12:38 <wendy> gregg and john and ben?
21:12:39 <Zakim> -Sorcha_Moore
21:12:41 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
21:12:49 <Zakim> -Roberto_Scano
21:12:52 <wendy> should we talk real quick about the last call comments submission process (form, etc.)?
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21:13:07 <wendy> shoot...missed them.
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