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13:54:38 <shadi> zakim, this will be ert
13:54:38 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
13:54:47 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
13:55:11 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006Apr/0013.html
13:55:15 <shadi> chair: Shadi
13:55:26 <shadi> scribe: Jim
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13:57:44 <shadi> agenda+ EARL pointers proposal by Jim
13:57:52 <shadi> agenda+ Requirements for Web ContentS by CarlosI
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14:00:16 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
14:00:17 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:00:22 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
14:00:24 <Zakim> -Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
14:00:26 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
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14:00:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:01:18 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:01:19 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
14:01:36 <drooks> zakim, ipcaller is drooks
14:01:36 <Zakim> +drooks; got it
14:01:39 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:02:12 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller.a is really Chris
14:02:12 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
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14:05:17 <Zakim> + +34.98.439.aaaa
14:05:20 <Zakim> - +34.98.439.aaaa
14:06:12 <Zakim> + +34.98.439.aabb
14:06:32 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is really CarlosI
14:06:32 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
14:06:37 <shadi> zakim, aabb is really CarlosI
14:06:37 <Zakim> +CarlosI; got it
14:06:44 <Zakim> -drooks
14:07:14 <Zakim> -CarlosI
14:07:24 <drooks> skype playing up, be back in a second
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14:08:49 <shadi> yes!
14:08:51 <shadi> :)
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14:10:02 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:10:20 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Nick
14:10:20 <Zakim> +Nick; got it
14:10:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:10:50 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really David
14:10:50 <Zakim> +David; got it
14:10:54 <shadi> carlos?
14:12:03 <shadi> scribe: David
14:12:11 <shadi> scribenick: drooks
14:12:29 <CarlosI> need to restart the system, be back in a few minutes
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14:14:38 <shadi> agenda+ Editing ERT Documents
14:14:46 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:14:46 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Editing ERT Documents" taken up [from shadi]
14:15:43 <drooks> earl guide - version for review should be available for end of week
14:15:43 <CarlosI> CarlosI has joined #er
14:15:56 <shadi> s/earl guide/earl schema
14:16:39 <Zakim> +CarlosI
14:18:48 <drooks> JK - no use case for uri in rdf
14:21:27 <drooks> JK - no change to rca22
14:25:01 <shadi> action: johannes update RFC822-in-RDF and HTTP-in-RDF document to capture latest changes, and send to the group by 1st may
14:25:02 <Zakim> -Nick
14:25:30 <drooks> s/rca22/rfc822
14:26:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:26:55 <shadi> action: CarlosV send an updated EARL Guide document to list by 5th may
14:27:06 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is really Nick
14:27:06 <Zakim> +Nick; got it
14:27:47 <shadi> action: shadi and charles send an updated EARL Schema document to list by 22 april
14:28:51 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 3
14:28:51 <Zakim> agendum 3, Editing ERT Documents, closed
14:28:52 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:28:53 <Zakim> 1. EARL pointers proposal by Jim [from shadi]
14:29:02 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:29:02 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Requirements for Web ContentS by CarlosI" taken up [from shadi]
14:32:15 <drooks> we are looking for something to describe groups of pages
14:34:49 <drooks> i am having trouble hearing niq
14:35:43 <niq> skype--
14:37:30 <drooks> we have a problem - how to relate specific error/result to groups of pages rather than repeating error/result. i.e. for result A pages x,y,z apply
14:38:44 <drooks> sorry, just lost my sound
14:39:06 <Zakim> -David
14:40:14 <niq> saz: we have multi-value location pointers for that
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14:41:20 <JohannesK> CV: CI's requirements about scope of tests or scope of claims?
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14:42:29 <JohannesK> SAZ: main motivation is make claims; need for describing groups of resources
14:42:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:42:48 <drooks> zakim, ipcaller is drooks
14:42:48 <Zakim> +drooks; got it
14:43:32 <JohannesK> SAZ: no big difference between the two use cases
14:44:15 <JohannesK> CV: use of wild cards leeds to problems; need to list all URLs
14:45:29 <JohannesK> s/leeds/leads/
14:45:40 <JohannesK> CV: Nick's proposal is too complex
14:47:11 <JohannesK> CV: we need a resource list
14:47:40 <Zakim> -Nick
14:48:57 <JohannesK> CI: need different view on report (project leader, developer, ...)
14:49:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:50:06 <JohannesK> SAZ: EARL report needs to include whole data, applications may transform different views from EARL
14:51:19 <JohannesK> SAZ: there may be situations where resource list can be collapsed
14:52:02 <JohannesK> CV: application can create collapsed things
14:53:11 <JohannesK> CI: use case: collapse information before transmitting via web service
14:55:54 <Zakim> -Chris
14:56:01 <ChrisR> ChrisR has left #er
14:57:27 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
14:57:35 <JohannesK> SAZ: use http://example.org for whole domain?
14:57:43 <JohannesK> JK: this is just one resource
14:57:53 <JohannesK> SAZ: people may misuse this
14:58:19 <JohannesK> CV: that's why I want list of specific resources
14:58:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:59:18 <JohannesK> SAZ: do we want blanket statements?
15:01:00 <JohannesK> SAZ: need further discussion on the list
15:01:46 <JohannesK> CV: it is possible to go from specific to general, but not the other way round
15:02:05 <shadi> action: shadi summarize issue about blanket statements to the group
15:02:37 <shadi> action: everyone read, think, and comment on the issue on the mailing list
15:03:54 <Zakim> -drooks
15:03:56 <Zakim> -Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
15:03:57 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:03:58 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:04:10 <shadi> *LOL*
15:04:27 <shadi> drop action 6
15:04:35 <Zakim> -CarlosI
15:04:37 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:04:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, drooks, Chris, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.98.439.aabb, CarlosI, Nick, David, [IPcaller]
15:04:45 <shadi> zakim, bye
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15:05:12 <shadi> rrsagent, drop action 6
15:05:26 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:05:34 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:05:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-er-minutes.html shadi
15:06:02 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:06:51 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:06:51 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-er-actions.rdf :
15:06:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: johannes update RFC822-in-RDF and HTTP-in-RDF document to capture latest changes, and send to the group by 1st may [1]
15:06:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-er-irc#T14-25-01
15:06:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CarlosV send an updated EARL Guide document to list by 5th may [2]
15:06:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-er-irc#T14-26-55
15:06:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi and charles send an updated EARL Schema document to list by 22 april [3]
15:06:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-er-irc#T14-27-47
15:06:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi summarize issue about blanket statements to the group [4]
15:06:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-er-irc#T15-02-05
15:06:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: everyone read, think, and comment on the issue on the mailing list [5]
15:06:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/19-er-irc#T15-02-37