16:04:13 RRSAgent has joined #ws-desc 16:04:13 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-irc 16:04:23 RRSAgent, where am I? 16:04:23 See http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-irc#T16-04-23 16:04:33 Pete has joined #ws-desc 16:05:29 the minutes of the implementors call are at: http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-minutes-impl.html 16:05:53 +Hugo 16:06:02 +[Microsoft] 16:06:42 asir has joined #ws-desc 16:08:23 Pete has joined #ws-desc 16:09:21 SCRIBE: alewis 16:09:35 minutes approved 16:09:47 TOPIC: action items review 16:10:32 [marsh proves to be faster than a speeding keyboard, in speech] 16:10:50 TOPIC: Administrivia 16:10:56 republication complete 16:11:05 q+ 16:11:14 ack art 16:11:43 arthur: forwarded republication to standards guy, who responded that charter has been extended and there are changes to scope. is that true? 16:12:32 marsh: no, didn't change scope; changed deliverables in so far as downgrading rdf spec from recommendation track to wg note track. 16:13:32 marsh: considered problem of rechartering; no one should have to rejoin; if anyone thinks that there is a problem, please alert us. 16:13:49 hugo: scope hasn't changed; one deliverable downgraded; no need to rejoin. 16:16:21 discussion of timing of next teleconference. propose to skip two weeks, meet again on the 20th. 16:16:43 call for objections: none heard. make it so. 16:17:01 TOPIC: implementation status 16:18:02 tonyr: making progress on defining interchange format (xml schema for outputting component model as recognized by parser; could be interesting to implementers as starting point, too). 16:18:53 marsh: implementers' standing call every week, thursday 10:00 EST (whatever that is in other regions), one hour before standard time for wsdl call. 16:19:23 marsh: also has something on test metadata. arthur's question. 16:20:02 arthur: suggesting that anyone submitting a new test case should also create the descriptive data for the test case. also, please submit new test cases. 16:20:19 marsh and arthur discuss appropriate forms of bribery for test case submitters. 16:20:41 http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/test-suite/test-suite-coverage-summary.xml?content-type=text/xml 16:21:47 arthur: test cases may be submitted directly or attached to emails posted to the discussion list. 16:22:34 arthur: we could have an initiation ceremony for new members, requiring test case submission. like hazing .... 16:23:19 marsh: having the test framework set up better, and having implementations, will probably encourage submission of more test cases, because submitters will be able to see progress. 16:24:02 marsh: non-implementors would also be encouraged to attend interop events, to contribute test cases. 16:24:11 -Canon 16:24:46 TOPIC: cr 7. 16:25:02 marsh: mixed things up; hasn't been finished yet. 16:25:08 TOPIC cr 11. 16:25:44 marsh: submitter did not accept resolution, wants it brought to attention of director. 16:26:05 marsh: leave it marked as unaccepted. comments on strategy? 16:26:21 australian crickets chirp a bit. 16:26:29 TOPIC: cr 19. 16:26:39 I propose: If a WSDL 2.0 document refers to any component (element, simple type, 16:26:39 complex type, etc) of the http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema namespace 16:26:39 except the built-in simple types, then it MUST import 16:26:39 http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema. 16:27:34 amy: agree with proposal (as discussed on mailing list) 16:28:26 marsh: call for objections. none heard. make it so. 16:28:50 ACTION: Arthur to implement resolution of CR 19, per proposal. 16:30:06 TOPIC: 287. modularize ontology. 16:30:26 marsh: have had open action for jacek to run a tool against something. 16:30:43 jacek: no new status; is there any status on bijan's participation? 16:31:24 jacek: close issue with no action. 16:31:35 jacek: and also retire the action. 16:32:22 jacek: generally, modularization unnecessary in rdf, because doesn't recognize namespaces. bijan opposed modularization, but offered to run tool. unlikely to complain about removing action and closing issue. 16:32:33 RESOLVED: 287 closed with no action. 16:32:46 TOPIC: 289. where put rdf? 16:33:14 marsh: is this publication question? jacek: yes, we just left it as an issue so that we don't lose sight of it. 16:33:29 marsh: lc wd should include all rdf bits. 16:33:39 marsh: leave open until last call. 16:34:06 marsh: how are mapping tables coming along? jacek: slow, some republished in mass repub, nothing new since. 16:34:34 marsh: estimate for readiness for last call? jacek: yes, sent recently to hugo; end of april. 16:34:44 marsh: need rdf tf calls? 16:35:05 jacek: no open issues, so unless someone wants to get involved, no need for calls. 16:36:16 ACTION: Marsh to make XSLT improvements for RDF publication 16:36:56 -Arthur_Ryman 16:36:56 marsh: agenda completed. next meeting 20 april. 16:36:57 -Allen 16:36:59 -Hugo 16:37:00 -Jonathan_Marsh 16:37:01 -Peter 16:37:02 -JacekK 16:37:03 thank you all for coming. 16:37:03 rrsagent, draft minutes 16:37:03 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan 16:37:04 -TonyR 16:37:05 -[Microsoft] 16:37:06 -Vivek_Pandey 16:37:15 thanks for scribing! 16:37:20 bye! 16:37:32 -Charlton_Barreto 16:37:33 i may not be here on the 20th, jonathan. 16:37:40 Meeting: WS Description WG telcon 16:37:41 -Amelia_Lewis 16:37:45 Bozhong has left #ws-desc 16:37:52 vivek has left #ws-desc 16:37:56 -[IPcaller] 16:37:57 WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended 16:37:58 Attendees were Amelia_Lewis, [IPcaller], Arthur_Ryman, Charlton_Barreto, Jonathan_Marsh, TonyR, Canon, Allen, JacekK, +1.585.377.aaaa, Vivek_Pandey, Peter, Hugo, [Microsoft] 16:38:01 Chair: Marsh 16:38:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 16:38:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan 16:40:50 TonyR has left #ws-desc 16:40:59 alewis has left #ws-desc 16:59:01 WS_DescWG()11:00AM has now started 16:59:08 +Gilbert_Pilz 16:59:16 -Gilbert_Pilz 16:59:17 WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended 16:59:18 Attendees were Gilbert_Pilz 17:58:44 rrsagent, bye 17:58:44 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-actions.rdf : 17:58:44 ACTION: Arthur to implement resolution of CR 19, per proposal. [1] 17:58:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-irc#T16-28-50 17:58:44 ACTION: Marsh to make XSLT improvements for RDF publication [2] 17:58:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-irc#T16-36-16 17:58:46 zakim, bye 17:58:46 Zakim has left #ws-desc