IRC log of ws-desc on 2006-03-30

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RRSAgent, where am I?
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See http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-irc#T16-04-23
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the minutes of the implementors call are at: http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-minutes-impl.html
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+Hugo
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+[Microsoft]
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SCRIBE: alewis
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minutes approved
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TOPIC: action items review
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[marsh proves to be faster than a speeding keyboard, in speech]
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TOPIC: Administrivia
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republication complete
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q+
16:11:14 [Jonathan]
ack art
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arthur: forwarded republication to standards guy, who responded that charter has been extended and there are changes to scope. is that true?
16:12:32 [alewis]
marsh: no, didn't change scope; changed deliverables in so far as downgrading rdf spec from recommendation track to wg note track.
16:13:32 [alewis]
marsh: considered problem of rechartering; no one should have to rejoin; if anyone thinks that there is a problem, please alert us.
16:13:49 [alewis]
hugo: scope hasn't changed; one deliverable downgraded; no need to rejoin.
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discussion of timing of next teleconference. propose to skip two weeks, meet again on the 20th.
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call for objections: none heard. make it so.
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TOPIC: implementation status
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tonyr: making progress on defining interchange format (xml schema for outputting component model as recognized by parser; could be interesting to implementers as starting point, too).
16:18:53 [alewis]
marsh: implementers' standing call every week, thursday 10:00 EST (whatever that is in other regions), one hour before standard time for wsdl call.
16:19:23 [alewis]
marsh: also has something on test metadata. arthur's question.
16:20:02 [alewis]
arthur: suggesting that anyone submitting a new test case should also create the descriptive data for the test case. also, please submit new test cases.
16:20:19 [alewis]
marsh and arthur discuss appropriate forms of bribery for test case submitters.
16:20:41 [Arthur]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/test-suite/test-suite-coverage-summary.xml?content-type=text/xml
16:21:47 [alewis]
arthur: test cases may be submitted directly or attached to emails posted to the discussion list.
16:22:34 [alewis]
arthur: we could have an initiation ceremony for new members, requiring test case submission. like hazing ....
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marsh: having the test framework set up better, and having implementations, will probably encourage submission of more test cases, because submitters will be able to see progress.
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marsh: non-implementors would also be encouraged to attend interop events, to contribute test cases.
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-Canon
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TOPIC: cr 7.
16:25:02 [alewis]
marsh: mixed things up; hasn't been finished yet.
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TOPIC cr 11.
16:25:44 [alewis]
marsh: submitter did not accept resolution, wants it brought to attention of director.
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marsh: leave it marked as unaccepted. comments on strategy?
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australian crickets chirp a bit.
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TOPIC: cr 19.
16:26:39 [Arthur]
I propose: If a WSDL 2.0 document refers to any component (element, simple type,
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complex type, etc) of the http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema namespace
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except the built-in simple types, then it MUST import
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http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema.
16:27:34 [alewis]
amy: agree with proposal (as discussed on mailing list)
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marsh: call for objections. none heard. make it so.
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ACTION: Arthur to implement resolution of CR 19, per proposal.
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TOPIC: 287. modularize ontology.
16:30:26 [alewis]
marsh: have had open action for jacek to run a tool against something.
16:30:43 [alewis]
jacek: no new status; is there any status on bijan's participation?
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jacek: close issue with no action.
16:31:35 [alewis]
jacek: and also retire the action.
16:32:22 [alewis]
jacek: generally, modularization unnecessary in rdf, because doesn't recognize namespaces. bijan opposed modularization, but offered to run tool. unlikely to complain about removing action and closing issue.
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RESOLVED: 287 closed with no action.
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TOPIC: 289. where put rdf?
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marsh: is this publication question? jacek: yes, we just left it as an issue so that we don't lose sight of it.
16:33:29 [alewis]
marsh: lc wd should include all rdf bits.
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marsh: leave open until last call.
16:34:06 [alewis]
marsh: how are mapping tables coming along? jacek: slow, some republished in mass repub, nothing new since.
16:34:34 [alewis]
marsh: estimate for readiness for last call? jacek: yes, sent recently to hugo; end of april.
16:34:44 [alewis]
marsh: need rdf tf calls?
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jacek: no open issues, so unless someone wants to get involved, no need for calls.
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ACTION: Marsh to make XSLT improvements for RDF publication
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-Arthur_Ryman
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marsh: agenda completed. next meeting 20 april.
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-Allen
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-Hugo
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-Jonathan_Marsh
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-Peter
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-JacekK
16:37:03 [alewis]
thank you all for coming.
16:37:03 [Jonathan]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
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-TonyR
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-[Microsoft]
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-Vivek_Pandey
16:37:15 [Jonathan]
thanks for scribing!
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bye!
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-Charlton_Barreto
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i may not be here on the 20th, jonathan.
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Meeting: WS Description WG telcon
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-Amelia_Lewis
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-[IPcaller]
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WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Amelia_Lewis, [IPcaller], Arthur_Ryman, Charlton_Barreto, Jonathan_Marsh, TonyR, Canon, Allen, JacekK, +1.585.377.aaaa, Vivek_Pandey, Peter, Hugo, [Microsoft]
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Chair: Marsh
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
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WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Gilbert_Pilz
17:58:44 [Jonathan]
rrsagent, bye
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I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Arthur to implement resolution of CR 19, per proposal. [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-irc#T16-28-50
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ACTION: Marsh to make XSLT improvements for RDF publication [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/30-ws-desc-irc#T16-36-16
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zakim, bye
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