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15:49:22 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n core workin group
15:49:29 <fsasaki> chair: Francois
15:49:32 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
15:49:37 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
15:50:05 <fsasaki> last minutes: http://www.w3.org/2006/03/21-i18ncore-minutes.html
15:50:23 <fsasaki> agenda+ action items
15:50:49 <fsasaki> agenda+ xml:lang propagation in cdr
15:51:24 <fsasaki> agenda+ WS Addr review
15:51:45 <fsasaki> agenda+ XML Schema data types review
15:51:56 <fsasaki> agenda+ charmod resid update 
15:52:42 <fsasaki> agenda+ LTLI update
15:54:27 <fsasaki> zakim, drop agendum 6
15:54:27 <Zakim> agendum 6, LTLI update, dropped
15:58:14 <fsasaki> agenda+ meeting time scheduling
15:58:21 <fsasaki> zakim, agenda?
15:58:21 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
15:58:22 <Zakim> 1. action items [from fsasaki]
15:58:23 <Zakim> 2. xml:lang propagation in cdr [from fsasaki]
15:58:25 <Zakim> 3. WS Addr review [from fsasaki]
15:58:26 <Zakim> 4. XML Schema data types review [from fsasaki]
15:58:28 <Zakim> 5. charmod resid update [from fsasaki]
15:58:30 <Zakim> 7. meeting time scheduling [from fsasaki]
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15:58:50 <fyergeau> Hi Felix
15:58:55 <fsasaki> Hi Francois
15:59:13 <fsasaki> Sorry, I did not have time to post an agenda, I' d propose:
15:59:16 <fsasaki> zakim, agenda?
15:59:16 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
15:59:18 <Zakim> 1. action items [from fsasaki]
15:59:19 <Zakim> 2. xml:lang propagation in cdr [from fsasaki]
15:59:20 <Zakim> 3. WS Addr review [from fsasaki]
15:59:22 <Zakim> 4. XML Schema data types review [from fsasaki]
15:59:25 <Zakim> 5. charmod resid update [from fsasaki]
15:59:28 <Zakim> 7. meeting time scheduling [from fsasaki]
15:59:58 <fsasaki> zakim, dial felix-home
15:59:58 <Zakim> ok, fsasaki; the call is being made
15:59:59 <Zakim> I18N_Core_WG()11:00AM has now started
16:00:02 <Zakim> +Felix
16:00:45 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:00:46 <fyergeau> zakim, [ is fyergeau
16:00:47 <Zakim> +fyergeau; got it
16:00:58 <fsasaki> zakim, agenda?
16:00:58 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
16:00:59 <Zakim> 1. action items [from fsasaki]
16:01:00 <Zakim> 2. xml:lang propagation in cdr [from fsasaki]
16:01:01 <Zakim> 3. WS Addr review [from fsasaki]
16:01:03 <Zakim> 4. XML Schema data types review [from fsasaki]
16:01:05 <Zakim> 5. charmod resid update [from fsasaki]
16:01:06 <Zakim> 7. meeting time scheduling [from fsasaki]
16:01:20 <fyergeau> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Felix, fyergeau
16:01:48 <fyergeau> I can barely hear you, very bad sound, voice unrecognizable
16:01:49 <Zakim> -Felix
16:01:58 <fsasaki> zakim, dial felix-home
16:01:59 <Zakim> ok, fsasaki; the call is being made
16:01:59 <Zakim> +Felix
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16:05:20 <fsasaki> zakim, agenda?
16:05:21 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
16:05:22 <Zakim> 1. action items [from fsasaki]
16:05:22 <r12a> zakim, dial ishida
16:05:25 <Zakim> 2. xml:lang propagation in cdr [from fsasaki]
16:05:26 <Zakim> 3. WS Addr review [from fsasaki]
16:05:27 <Zakim> 4. XML Schema data types review [from fsasaki]
16:05:30 <Zakim> 5. charmod resid update [from fsasaki]
16:05:31 <Zakim> 7. meeting time scheduling [from fsasaki]
16:05:33 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:05:34 <Zakim> +Ishida
16:06:19 <fsasaki> topic: action items
16:06:44 <fsasaki> action: Felix to obtain a status update from Martin by next week (DONE)
16:06:59 <fsasaki> action: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod-norm (ONGOING)
16:07:10 <Zakim> +[IBM]
16:07:21 <fyergeau> zakim, [ is Mary
16:07:21 <Zakim> +Mary; got it
16:07:46 <fsasaki> action: Mary will make the updates discussed in Mandelieu on ws i18n (ONGOING)
16:07:51 <fsasaki> Mary: question:
16:08:10 <fsasaki> .. what else do we need to do ?
16:08:27 <fsasaki> .. if we think we have two docs: the data stream and the policy document
16:08:49 <fsasaki> .. for the ws-i18n draft (about the data stream), do we need test cases?
16:09:08 <fsasaki> Francois: what would these specs say?
16:09:21 <fsasaki> Felix: would there be s.t. testable in the ws-i18n draft?
16:09:31 <fsasaki> Mary: it would just show the header
16:09:53 <fsasaki> .. but not specify how you decide from your service / your produces that this is the content should be
16:10:06 <fsasaki> .. the other doc (ws policy) would be how you determine the content
16:10:29 <fsasaki> Francois: so the data stream seems to be more testable to me
16:10:38 <fsasaki> .. is it possible to do it in one doc?
16:10:48 <fsasaki> Mary: the policy has the framework
16:11:07 <fsasaki> s/policy/security policy
16:11:18 <fsasaki> .. security policy is separate from the security spec
16:11:32 <fsasaki> Francois: sure, I'm just wondering if it needs two documents
16:11:44 <fsasaki> .. or if we could have one doc with various sections
16:11:52 <fsasaki> .. would be easier for publication
16:11:57 <fsasaki> Mary: we should do that
16:12:06 <fsasaki> .. well, I need to talk to the policy people
16:12:41 <fsasaki> Francois: it may be easier to talk to people with s.t. published or close to published
16:12:59 <fsasaki> Mary: I'll finish the update we did
16:13:12 <fsasaki> .. turn out everything which refers to features and properties
16:13:27 <fsasaki> .. and replace it with "s.t." about policy
16:13:41 <fsasaki> Francois: what's policy right now? Oasis?
16:13:52 <fsasaki> Mary: I don't know. There's ws policy framework
16:14:07 <fsasaki> .. then the security, which is analogous to what we do
16:14:15 <fsasaki> .. i.e. it sits under the framework
16:14:45 <fsasaki> .. I heard that IBM people would try to get chartered as a policy WG
16:15:26 <fsasaki> Francois: so we do the updates, and put at least place holder in the doc
16:16:27 <fsasaki> action: felix to go trough LTLI within the next 2 weeks, to make it ready for first publication (ONGOING)
16:16:37 <fsasaki> Felix: will present s.t. next meeting
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16:17:46 <fsasaki> action: Richard to go through the xml:lang CDR review issue and decide whether we should continue discussion (PENDING)
16:18:30 <fsasaki> felix: the CDR WG says they want to have an answer until next week
16:18:39 <fsasaki> action: Richard to send out the PLS comments (DONE)
16:19:39 <fsasaki> zakim, take up agendum 3
16:19:39 <Zakim> agendum 3. "WS Addr review" taken up [from fsasaki]
16:20:25 <fsasaki> Mary: I'd like to do it, but until Thursday is not enough time
16:21:09 <fsasaki> action: Mary to look at WS Addr, Felix to ask WG for an review extension until next week tuesday
16:21:22 <fsasaki> zakim, take up agendum 4
16:21:22 <Zakim> agendum 4. "XML Schema data types review" taken up [from fsasaki]
16:22:39 <fsasaki> Francois: I'll do it at the beginning of this afternoon, and send mail to our WG
16:22:51 <fsasaki> .. if there is no objection, we don't need to wait until next Tuesday
16:23:04 <fsasaki> zakim, take up agendum 4
16:23:04 <Zakim> agendum 4. "XML Schema data types review" taken up [from fsasaki]
16:23:08 <fsasaki> zakim, take up agendum 5
16:23:08 <Zakim> agendum 5. "charmod resid update" taken up [from fsasaki]
16:25:24 <fsasaki> Francois: we need s.t. like an implementation report
16:25:33 <fsasaki> .. the usual thing for exiting CR
16:26:28 <fsasaki> Felix: a timeline?
16:26:33 <fsasaki> Francois: would be good
16:26:50 <fsasaki> .. if the test suite would be ready in some weeks, it would be good
16:27:53 <fsasaki> Felix: the student is finished now, Martin will continue the work
16:28:00 <fsasaki> Francois: how about hosting?
16:28:04 <fsasaki> .. we need a stable host
16:28:22 <fsasaki> Richard: w3c site?
16:28:27 <fsasaki> Francois: would be ideal
16:28:37 <fsasaki> .. but we mainly need a stable host
16:29:41 <fsasaki> .. if Martin can gurantee that, that would be great
16:30:09 <fsasaki> Felix: the tests have to be on different OS based servers as well, maybe easier for Martin to update
16:30:47 <fsasaki> action: Felix to talk to Martin on IRI tests: what are requirements for hosting?
16:31:06 <fsasaki> Felix: tbd tomorrow
16:31:30 <fsasaki> Francois: difficult: at w3c site, various OS is difficult, at Martin's place, stability is a problem
16:32:15 <fsasaki> zakim, take up agendum 7
16:32:15 <Zakim> agendum 7. "meeting time scheduling" taken up [from fsasaki]
16:32:55 <fsasaki> Francois: Richard has changed this week to DST, I will change next week
16:33:30 <fsasaki> .. agreement on one hour earlier?
16:34:00 <fsasaki> action: Felix to make call 1 hour earlier (talk to zakim)
16:34:08 <fsasaki> s/call/regular call
16:34:37 <fsasaki> topic: other business?
16:34:53 <fsasaki> Richard: I'll go to the voice browser WG meeting in Greek
16:35:19 <fsasaki> s/Greek/Greece
16:35:55 <Zakim> -fyergeau
16:35:56 <Zakim> -Ishida
16:35:57 <Zakim> -Felix
16:35:58 <Zakim> -Mary
16:35:59 <Zakim> I18N_Core_WG()11:00AM has ended
16:36:00 <Zakim> Attendees were Felix, [IPcaller], fyergeau, Ishida, [IBM], Mary
16:36:02 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
16:36:54 <fsasaki> present: Felix, Francois, Mary, Richard
16:37:05 <fsasaki> regrets: Karunesh, Vijaj
16:37:10 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:37:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/28-i18ncore-minutes.html fsasaki
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