IRC log of i18ncore on 2006-03-28

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meeting: i18n core workin group
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chair: Francois
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scribe: Felix
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scribeNick: fsasaki
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last minutes: http://www.w3.org/2006/03/21-i18ncore-minutes.html
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agenda+ action items
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agenda+ xml:lang propagation in cdr
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agenda+ WS Addr review
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agenda+ XML Schema data types review
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agenda+ charmod resid update
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agenda+ LTLI update
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zakim, drop agendum 6
15:54:27 [Zakim]
agendum 6, LTLI update, dropped
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agenda+ meeting time scheduling
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zakim, agenda?
15:58:21 [Zakim]
I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. action items [from fsasaki]
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2. xml:lang propagation in cdr [from fsasaki]
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3. WS Addr review [from fsasaki]
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4. XML Schema data types review [from fsasaki]
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5. charmod resid update [from fsasaki]
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7. meeting time scheduling [from fsasaki]
15:58:38 [fyergeau]
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Hi Felix
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Hi Francois
15:59:13 [fsasaki]
Sorry, I did not have time to post an agenda, I' d propose:
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zakim, agenda?
15:59:16 [Zakim]
I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. action items [from fsasaki]
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2. xml:lang propagation in cdr [from fsasaki]
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3. WS Addr review [from fsasaki]
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4. XML Schema data types review [from fsasaki]
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5. charmod resid update [from fsasaki]
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7. meeting time scheduling [from fsasaki]
15:59:58 [fsasaki]
zakim, dial felix-home
15:59:58 [Zakim]
ok, fsasaki; the call is being made
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I18N_Core_WG()11:00AM has now started
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+Felix
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+[IPcaller]
16:00:46 [fyergeau]
zakim, [ is fyergeau
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+fyergeau; got it
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. action items [from fsasaki]
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2. xml:lang propagation in cdr [from fsasaki]
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3. WS Addr review [from fsasaki]
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4. XML Schema data types review [from fsasaki]
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5. charmod resid update [from fsasaki]
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7. meeting time scheduling [from fsasaki]
16:01:20 [fyergeau]
zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:20 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Felix, fyergeau
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I can barely hear you, very bad sound, voice unrecognizable
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-Felix
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zakim, dial felix-home
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ok, fsasaki; the call is being made
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+Felix
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. action items [from fsasaki]
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zakim, dial ishida
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2. xml:lang propagation in cdr [from fsasaki]
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3. WS Addr review [from fsasaki]
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4. XML Schema data types review [from fsasaki]
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5. charmod resid update [from fsasaki]
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7. meeting time scheduling [from fsasaki]
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ok, r12a; the call is being made
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+Ishida
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topic: action items
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action: Felix to obtain a status update from Martin by next week (DONE)
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action: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod-norm (ONGOING)
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+[IBM]
16:07:21 [fyergeau]
zakim, [ is Mary
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+Mary; got it
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action: Mary will make the updates discussed in Mandelieu on ws i18n (ONGOING)
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Mary: question:
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.. what else do we need to do ?
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.. if we think we have two docs: the data stream and the policy document
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.. for the ws-i18n draft (about the data stream), do we need test cases?
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Francois: what would these specs say?
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Felix: would there be s.t. testable in the ws-i18n draft?
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Mary: it would just show the header
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.. but not specify how you decide from your service / your produces that this is the content should be
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.. the other doc (ws policy) would be how you determine the content
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Francois: so the data stream seems to be more testable to me
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.. is it possible to do it in one doc?
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Mary: the policy has the framework
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s/policy/security policy
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.. security policy is separate from the security spec
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Francois: sure, I'm just wondering if it needs two documents
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.. or if we could have one doc with various sections
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.. would be easier for publication
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Mary: we should do that
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.. well, I need to talk to the policy people
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Francois: it may be easier to talk to people with s.t. published or close to published
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Mary: I'll finish the update we did
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.. turn out everything which refers to features and properties
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.. and replace it with "s.t." about policy
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Francois: what's policy right now? Oasis?
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Mary: I don't know. There's ws policy framework
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.. then the security, which is analogous to what we do
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.. i.e. it sits under the framework
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.. I heard that IBM people would try to get chartered as a policy WG
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Francois: so we do the updates, and put at least place holder in the doc
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action: felix to go trough LTLI within the next 2 weeks, to make it ready for first publication (ONGOING)
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Felix: will present s.t. next meeting
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action: Richard to go through the xml:lang CDR review issue and decide whether we should continue discussion (PENDING)
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felix: the CDR WG says they want to have an answer until next week
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action: Richard to send out the PLS comments (DONE)
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zakim, take up agendum 3
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agendum 3. "WS Addr review" taken up [from fsasaki]
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Mary: I'd like to do it, but until Thursday is not enough time
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action: Mary to look at WS Addr, Felix to ask WG for an review extension until next week tuesday
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zakim, take up agendum 4
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agendum 4. "XML Schema data types review" taken up [from fsasaki]
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Francois: I'll do it at the beginning of this afternoon, and send mail to our WG
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.. if there is no objection, we don't need to wait until next Tuesday
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zakim, take up agendum 4
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agendum 4. "XML Schema data types review" taken up [from fsasaki]
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zakim, take up agendum 5
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agendum 5. "charmod resid update" taken up [from fsasaki]
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Francois: we need s.t. like an implementation report
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.. the usual thing for exiting CR
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Felix: a timeline?
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Francois: would be good
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.. if the test suite would be ready in some weeks, it would be good
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Felix: the student is finished now, Martin will continue the work
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Francois: how about hosting?
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.. we need a stable host
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Richard: w3c site?
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Francois: would be ideal
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.. but we mainly need a stable host
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.. if Martin can gurantee that, that would be great
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Felix: the tests have to be on different OS based servers as well, maybe easier for Martin to update
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action: Felix to talk to Martin on IRI tests: what are requirements for hosting?
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Felix: tbd tomorrow
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Francois: difficult: at w3c site, various OS is difficult, at Martin's place, stability is a problem
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zakim, take up agendum 7
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agendum 7. "meeting time scheduling" taken up [from fsasaki]
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Francois: Richard has changed this week to DST, I will change next week
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.. agreement on one hour earlier?
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action: Felix to make call 1 hour earlier (talk to zakim)
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s/call/regular call
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topic: other business?
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Richard: I'll go to the voice browser WG meeting in Greek
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s/Greek/Greece
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-fyergeau
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-Ishida
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-Felix
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-Mary
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I18N_Core_WG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Felix, [IPcaller], fyergeau, Ishida, [IBM], Mary
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rrsagent, make log public
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present: Felix, Francois, Mary, Richard
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regrets: Karunesh, Vijaj
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/28-i18ncore-minutes.html fsasaki
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