14:28:27 RRSAgent has joined #dawg 14:28:27 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/03/28-dawg-irc 14:28:30 Zakim, IBMCambridge is me 14:28:30 +LeeF; got it 14:28:36 +DanC 14:29:18 +??P5 14:29:20 zakim. ??P5 is me 14:29:43 zakim, ??P5 is me 14:29:43 +AndyS; got it 14:30:04 i was gonna call in late but then i remembered i'm scribe 14:30:07 dialing now 14:30:20 (mom called to ask about wedding plans. ;>) 14:30:33 +EricP 14:30:44 you'd preempt your Mom for the DAWG, kendallclark? that's dedication 14:30:44 +Sven_Groppe 14:30:45 regrets, can't stay. I didn't realise the daylight saving time is not started for you guys 14:30:58 well, she wanted to chat for a long time :) 14:31:06 +Kendall_Clark 14:31:15 scribe: Kendall Clark 14:31:22 bummer, SerT. I tried to look into that carefully; I thought the summer time wierdness didn't start until next week. 14:31:38 it doesn't in the US start till this weekend, iirc 14:31:39 my fault 14:31:50 well, understandable. 14:32:10 i'm sure there are politicians to blame for this policy 14:33:02 are we scheduled to align with europe? 14:33:07 can somebody forward me Peter's message http://www.w3.org/mid/20050918.110248.43269866.pfps@research.bell-labs.com 14:33:30 JosDeRoo has joined #dawg 14:33:37 should i scribe this for kendall? 14:33:40 I guess so, SerT 14:33:49 was just giving you a hard time 14:33:53 i'm good 14:34:00 (with a smile on my face) 14:34:03 thanks Dan, c u 14:34:10 zakim, EliasT is with me 14:34:10 +EliasT; got it 14:34:11 no, my mailer is in some wierd IMAP-lock-wierdness, state, SerT 14:34:30 +Jos_De_Roo 14:34:40 Zakim, take up item 1 14:34:40 agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review records and agenda" taken up [from DanC] 14:34:45 Zakim, who's on the phone? 14:34:45 On the phone I see LeeF, DanC, AndyS, EricP (muted), Sven_Groppe, Kendall_Clark, Jos_De_Roo 14:34:47 LeeF has LeeF, EliasT 14:34:54 no rush, Dan, I just need it to keep the header references in my reply 14:35:25 there are mbox archives... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/mboxes/2006-03.mbx 14:35:38 (member-access for spam control reasons) 14:36:02 got it, thanx 14:36:09 F.C.S is lacking, often. 14:36:09 + +1.603.459.aaaa 14:36:24 Zakim, aaaa is Souri 14:36:24 +Souri; got it 14:36:28 argh 14:38:01 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0465.html minutes 21 March 14:38:05 seconded 14:38:06 with 1 ammendment 14:38:07 Minutes from 21 March, as amended, APPROVED 14:38:48 Levity at the chair's expense! :) 14:39:01 PROPOSED: to meet again Tue, 4 Apr 2006, 14:30Z (Boston Tue 10:30 AM; Los Angeles Tue 7:30 AM; London Tue 3:30 PM; other local times); 14:39:29 2nd 14:39:34 Congrats to get the TZ right for London this week. 14:39:37 seconded 14:39:41 oh all right 14:39:42 Regrets for next week 14:39:47 yup 14:39:58 RESOLVED: to meet Tue, 4 Apr 2006, 14:30Z, ericp to scribe 14:39:58 EricP to scribe next week's meeting 14:40:00 AndyS / Regrets for next week 14:40:23 Zakim, next item 14:40:23 agendum 2. "comments related to rdfSemantics, owlDisjunction" taken up [from DanC] 14:40:58 ACTION LeeF: to find email thread about wording of restricting pattern solution domain to variables in BGP; follow up on that to get text back into rq23 [WITHDRAWN] 14:41:06 ACTION: LeeF to create test case resulting from 2006-03-03T11:15Z (before lunch, 2nd day) whiteboard discussion [WITHDRAWN] 14:41:47 ACTION: SergioT to respond to 2005-09-18T15:02:48Z Peter F. Patel-Schneider [CONTINUES] 14:41:50 Zakim, next item 14:41:50 agendum 3. "Issue nameValueForms" taken up [from DanC] 14:42:05 RESOLVED to postpone 14:42:08 Zakim, next item 14:42:08 agendum 3 was just opened, DanC 14:42:16 Zakim, move to next item 14:42:16 agendum 3 was just opened, DanC 14:42:17 Souri has joined #dawg 14:42:23 Zakim, close item 3 14:42:24 agendum 3, Issue nameValueForms, closed 14:42:25 I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:42:26 4. protocol editing, WSDL 2 coordination [from DanC] 14:42:27 Zakim, move to next item 14:42:27 agendum 4. "protocol editing, WSDL 2 coordination" taken up [from DanC] 14:43:12 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/proto-wd/ 1.117 discharges KC's refs action to my satisfaction 14:44:42 # ACTION: LeeF to try SPARQL WSDL files with Woden validator, report results. [DONE] 14:45:12 ACTION: KendallC to confirm that SPARQL WSDL query/queryrequest and maxOccurs do not need to be changed, despite Marsh's comment of 17Feb. [DONE] 14:45:13 but it's still true, Lee 14:45:24 d'oh 14:45:28 :> 14:45:29 Zakim, next item 14:45:29 agendum 5. "Toward CR" taken up [from DanC] 14:46:02 # ACTION: SvenG to follow up with Reto Krummenacher on [2006-02-24T16:40:55Z Reto Krummenacher]. Note: the thread is closed as of 14 March 14:46:08 Zakim, is Sven here? 14:46:08 probably, DanC; Sven_Groppe arrived 15 minutes ago 14:46:34 you cannot here me? 14:46:44 Zakim, ack sven 14:46:44 I see no one on the speaker queue 14:46:44 I write .. 14:46:47 well, he can be a rational being with inconsistent belief set 14:47:14 Reto is satisfied with the last email correspondence 14:47:18 great. 14:47:25 action done. 14:49:34 PROPOSED: to to advance SPARQL to CR, and be willing to treat Fred's comments as new information during CR 14:49:43 PROPOSED: to to advance SPARQL to CR, and be willing to treat Fred Zemke's comments as new information during CR 14:52:51 Does anyone else in the WG agree w/ Oracle about these 6 and 4 comments not addressed? 14:53:05 i.e., that they haven't been addressed? 14:54:46 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0484.html Souri 26 Mar 14:55:08 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/att-0484/fz_3.htm 14:59:22 I have to leave due to not recognizing the different daylight time changes of US and here. 14:59:32 -Sven_Groppe 14:59:46 Sven_Groppe has left #dawg 15:01:51 PROPOSED: to to advance SPARQL to CR, contingent on confirmation from Fred Zemke 15:02:12 2nd 15:03:40 ACTION Souri: arrange a phone call with Fred Zemke and interested WG members (Andy + (DanC or EricP)) 15:06:24 what's the current discussion about? i had to step away for a second 15:06:38 "I have been told by other members of DAWG that it is illegal to name the same dataset twice in FROM or FROM NAMED clauses of a query. " 15:06:41 about what happens if a URI occurs >1 in a from or from named clause 15:06:42 -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/att-0484/fz_3.htm 15:06:55 ah, thanks 15:08:40 sorry if i spoke over you eric 15:09:19 PROPOSED: to to advance SPARQL to CR, contingent on confirmation from Fred Zemke 15:09:31 Zakim, who's on the phone? 15:09:31 On the phone I see LeeF, DanC, AndyS, EricP, Kendall_Clark, Jos_De_Roo, Souri 15:09:33 LeeF has LeeF, EliasT 15:15:34 PROPOSED: to to advance SPARQL to CR, contingent on confirmation from Fred Zemke 15:15:47 2nd 15:16:15 so RESOLVED, FUB objecting 15:17:09 EricP: I'm in Paris 15:17:16 AndyS : +44 117 312 8181 15:17:24 http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=35463 15:17:33 Souri, you can reach me at +1.617.395.1213 or my Japanese cell: +81.90.6533.3882 15:18:22 good luck, DanC! 15:18:31 and Andy 15:19:11 zakim, mute me 15:19:11 Kendall_Clark should now be muted 15:19:22 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-archive/2006Mar/0396.html 15:19:49 20:00Z 15:21:31 fine 15:21:32 is ok 15:21:52 Zakim, close this item 15:21:54 agendum 5 closed 15:21:55 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 15:21:56 6. JSON results format [from DanC] 15:22:14 Zakim, next item 15:22:14 agendum 6. "JSON results format" taken up [from DanC] 15:22:18 zakim, unmute me 15:22:18 Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted 15:22:35 yes 15:22:46 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0477.html 15:22:48 Thanks for your editing... 15:23:29 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/json-sparql/ 15:25:03 ACTION AndyS: review http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/json-sparql/ after early apr holiday, at earliest convenience 15:25:51 Zakim, next item 15:25:51 agendum 7. "test suite maintenance" taken up [from DanC] 15:26:07 propose to adjourn 15:26:15 2nd, Andy 15:26:53 ADJOURN. 15:26:59 for danc: http://halogen.note.amherst.edu/%7Ejdtang/scheme_in_48/tutorial/overview.html 15:27:03 kendallclark, can you send minutes? 15:28:09 -Jos_De_Roo 15:29:49 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=3&day=28&year=2006&p1=0&p2=136&p3=127&p4=248 15:29:57 danc: i was scribing in IRC 15:30:05 can zakim generate minutes? 15:30:39 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 15:30:39 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/28-dawg-minutes.html DanC 15:30:58 Tuesday, March 28, 2006 at 11:00:00 Tue Noon * Tue 6:00 AM Tue 8:00 PM 15:31:10 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=3&day=28&year=2006&p1=0&p2=136&p3=43&p4=248 15:34:03 dawg minutes 403'd, btw 15:34:16 RRSAgent, make logs world-access 15:34:26 th 15:34:27 x 15:35:17 yes, EliasT , that's a nice distraction 15:35:19 -Kendall_Clark 15:35:31 -Souri 15:35:31 he probably means IRC, but I can do voice if you prefer 15:35:43 RRSAgent, stop