IRC log of i18nits on 2006-03-24
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- meeting: i18n ITS working group (editor's call)
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- chair: Yves
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- scribe: Felix
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- sorry I was lost in thinking... I'm coming
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- topic: today's topics
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- christian: my proposal: Richard's input on an overview section
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- .. then the question: should we continue talking about data categories?
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- .. a related topic: the name "tag" inside "internationalization tag set"
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- felix: another possible topic: http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset-diff-20060222.html
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- .. how about reviewing change proposals in later calls
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- topic: richard's change proposals
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006JanMar/0252.html
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- Christian: I would adopt SECTION 1.1, as Richard proposed
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- yves: do we need so extensive changes in sec. 2?
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- christian: maybe the title of the section does not fit with the content
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- .. what we currently have on basic concepts are really ITS concepts
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- .. Richard describes ITS use cases
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- .. it is identical until 2.2.
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- felix: we might need sections for ITS users, and ITS implementors
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- .. Richard wrote about users, Christian for implementors?
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- christian: ITS usage scenarios would make sense
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- .. I would adopt the whole section 2.1
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- yves: as a section before 1.2?
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- christian: yes
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- christian: or 1.1?
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- Diane: before the examples
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- yves: so: 2.1 of Richard as new section 1.1
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- topic: sec. 2.2. of Richard's proposal
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- yves: a lot of rewriting necessary
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- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=2882
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- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=2883
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- yves: should the spec contain lot's of explanatory parts?
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- christian: it should have
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- .. my basic concepts section describe ITS from the perspective of our own work
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- .. Richard describes how stuff could be used
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- yves: is it possible to mix the sections?
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- christian: I'd take Richard's 2.1 and 2.2
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- .. and turn this into our new 1.1., with the title usage scenarios
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- diane: some if it is out of date
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- felix: how about having Christian and Richard as the main responsibles for ITS "explanation"?
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- christian: how about writing a mail to Richard, saying what we change?
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- .. if he is o.k. with that, the editor's would need to ensure that stuff is implemented
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- felix: how about dividing the work between normative and non-normative parts?
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- .. christian and Richard could work on that
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- topic: techniques document
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- christian: we should push the group to look at the things in bugzilla
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- action: Yves to post a mail to start a thread about localization properties
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- felix: don't we do too much, then we discuss many other issues?
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- yves: maybe it does not need the same participation
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- action: felix to make a time schedule including all bugs
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- I18N_ITS(EDIT)10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Dialer, Felix, Christian, Diane_Stoick, Yves_Savourel
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- yves?