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15:01:09 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS working group (editor's call)
15:01:14 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
15:01:17 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
15:01:25 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
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15:04:38 <Zakim> +??P4
15:04:41 <Zakim> -Felix
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15:05:31 <Zakim> +Diane_Stoick
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15:07:04 <YvesS> sorry I was lost in thinking... I'm coming
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15:09:32 <fsasaki> topic: today's topics
15:09:46 <fsasaki> christian: my proposal: Richard's input on an overview section
15:10:00 <fsasaki> .. then the question: should we continue talking about data categories?
15:10:34 <fsasaki> .. a related topic: the name "tag" inside "internationalization tag set"
15:12:33 <fsasaki> felix: another possible topic: http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset-diff-20060222.html
15:16:41 <fsasaki> .. how about reviewing change proposals in later calls
15:17:24 <fsasaki> topic: richard's change proposals
15:17:25 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2006JanMar/0252.html
15:20:00 <fsasaki> Christian: I would adopt SECTION 1.1, as Richard proposed
15:24:36 <fsasaki> yves: do we need so extensive changes in sec. 2?
15:24:52 <fsasaki> christian: maybe the title of the section does not fit with the content
15:25:14 <fsasaki> .. what we currently have on basic concepts are really ITS concepts
15:25:22 <fsasaki> .. Richard describes ITS use cases
15:26:24 <fsasaki> .. it is identical until 2.2.
15:29:12 <fsasaki> felix: we might need sections for ITS users, and ITS implementors
15:29:27 <fsasaki> .. Richard wrote about users, Christian for implementors?
15:29:44 <fsasaki> christian: ITS usage scenarios would make sense
15:30:18 <fsasaki> .. I would adopt the whole section 2.1
15:30:33 <fsasaki> yves: as a section before 1.2?
15:33:08 <fsasaki> christian: yes
15:34:22 <fsasaki> christian: or 1.1?
15:34:31 <fsasaki> Diane: before the examples
15:36:08 <fsasaki> yves: so: 2.1 of Richard as new section 1.1
15:37:29 <fsasaki> topic: sec. 2.2. of Richard's proposal
15:37:36 <fsasaki> yves: a lot of rewriting necessary
15:39:26 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=2882
15:39:37 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=2883
15:47:23 <fsasaki> yves: should the spec contain lot's of explanatory parts?
15:48:54 <fsasaki> christian: it should have
15:49:15 <fsasaki> .. my basic concepts section describe ITS from the perspective of our own work
15:49:28 <fsasaki> .. Richard describes how stuff could be used
15:50:24 <fsasaki> yves: is it possible to mix the sections?
15:50:32 <fsasaki> christian: I'd take Richard's 2.1 and 2.2
15:50:48 <fsasaki> .. and turn this into our new 1.1., with the title usage scenarios
15:52:34 <fsasaki> diane: some if it is out of date
15:54:36 <fsasaki> felix: how about having Christian and Richard as the main responsibles for ITS "explanation"?
15:55:06 <fsasaki> christian: how about writing a mail to Richard, saying what we change?
15:56:41 <fsasaki> .. if he is o.k. with that, the editor's would need to ensure that stuff is implemented
15:57:48 <fsasaki> felix: how about dividing the work between normative and non-normative parts?
15:58:35 <fsasaki> .. christian and Richard could work on that 
15:58:44 <fsasaki> topic: techniques document
15:59:02 <fsasaki> christian: we should push the group to look at the things in bugzilla
16:00:16 <fsasaki> action: Yves to post a mail to start a thread about localization properties
16:02:45 <fsasaki> felix: don't we do too much, then we discuss many other issues?
16:03:43 <fsasaki> yves: maybe it does not need the same participation
16:07:10 <fsasaki> action: felix to make a time schedule including all bugs
16:08:23 <Zakim> -Christian
16:08:24 <Zakim> -Diane_Stoick
16:08:26 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
16:09:34 <Zakim> -Felix
16:09:36 <Zakim> I18N_ITS(EDIT)10:00AM has ended
16:09:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Dialer, Felix, Christian, Diane_Stoick, Yves_Savourel
16:09:42 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:09:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/24-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
16:17:47 <fsasaki> yves?