IRC log of wai-wcag on 2006-03-23

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-wai-wcag-irc
19:29:28 [ben]
zakim, list conferences
19:29:28 [Zakim]
I see SVG_WG()2:00PM, XML_EXI()1:30PM active
19:29:30 [Zakim]
also scheduled at this time are WAI_UAWG()2:00PM, SW_PAW(CWM*)1:00PM
19:29:36 [ben]
zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:29:36 [Zakim]
ok, ben; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 31 minutes
19:29:46 [ben]
Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
19:30:02 [ben]
chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden and John_Slatin
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Regrets: Tim_Boland, Becky_Gibson
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agenda+ Remaining Normative Issues for 23 March
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agenda+ Team C issues and techniques for 23 March 2006
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agenda+ SC 2.4.5: How To Meet and Techniques
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agenda+ GL 2.4 Issues
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Misc. Open issues for 23 March
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agenda+ 2 Conformance Questions
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agenda+ 2.3 Proposal from Gregg
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RRSagent, do not start a new log
19:50:33 [ben]
regrets+ Roberto_Castaldo
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19:52:51 [Yvette]
Hi ben
19:52:54 [Yvette]
zakim, hi
19:52:54 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'hi', Yvette
19:53:04 [ben]
RRSagent, off
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+??P24
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-??P24
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+??P24
19:57:25 [ben]
zakim, ??P24 is Ben_Caldwell
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+Ben_Caldwell; got it
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+ +1.310.641.aaaa
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- +1.310.641.aaaa
19:58:45 [ben]
zakim, Shadi is Kerstin_and_Cynthia
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+Kerstin_and_Cynthia; got it
19:59:04 [ben]
zakim, Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
19:59:08 [Zakim]
+ +1.724.9.aabb
19:59:29 [ben]
zakim, 1.724 is Yvette_Hoitink
19:59:29 [Zakim]
sorry, ben, I do not recognize a party named '1.724'
19:59:30 [Yvette]
zakim, +1.724 is Yvette_Hoitink
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+Yvette_Hoitink; got it
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19:59:45 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
19:59:45 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kerstin_and_Cynthia, Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink
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Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:00:33 [Michael]
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+David_MacDonald
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+Michael_Cooper
20:01:44 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:01:44 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kerstin_and_Cynthia, Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper
20:01:46 [Zakim]
Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:02:02 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
20:02:11 [Michael]
zakim, I am Michael_Cooper
20:02:11 [Zakim]
ok, Michael, I now associate you with Michael_Cooper
20:02:32 [ben]
zakim, I am Ben_Caldwell
20:02:32 [Zakim]
ok, ben, I now associate you with Ben_Caldwell
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+Christophe_Strobbe
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zakim, Ben_Caldwell has John_Slatin
20:03:36 [Zakim]
+John_Slatin; got it
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+Sofia_Celic
20:03:59 [ben]
zakim, Ben_Caldwell has Bruce_Bailey
20:03:59 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey; got it
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sorcha moore
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zakim, [IP is Sorcha_Moore
20:04:33 [Zakim]
+Sorcha_Moore; got it
20:04:43 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:04:43 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kerstin_and_Cynthia, Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Sofia_Celic (muted)
20:04:46 [Zakim]
Ben_Caldwell has Bruce_Bailey
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+Alex_Li
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zakim, Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin, Bruce_Bailey
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Bruce_Bailey was already listed in Ben_Caldwell, ben
20:05:44 [Zakim]
+Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin; got it
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+[IPcaller]
20:05:51 [rellero]
zakim, +[IPcaller is rellero
20:05:52 [Zakim]
sorry, rellero, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller'
20:06:07 [Yvette]
zakim, [i is rellero
20:06:07 [Zakim]
+rellero; got it
20:06:08 [rellero]
zakim, +IPcaller is rellero
20:06:09 [Zakim]
sorry, rellero, I do not recognize a party named '+IPcaller'
20:06:12 [rellero]
zakim, mute me
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rellero should now be muted
20:06:39 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:06:39 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kerstin_and_Cynthia, Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Sofia_Celic (muted),
20:06:43 [Zakim]
... Alex_Li, rellero (muted)
20:06:44 [Zakim]
Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin
20:07:06 [Christophe]
zakim, mute me
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Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
20:07:22 [Zakim]
+Kerstin_and_Cynthia.a
20:08:18 [ben]
zakim, Kerstin_and_Cynthia.a is Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:08:18 [Zakim]
+Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
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q+
20:08:34 [Michael]
q+
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q+
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Topic: Issues with 2.3
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scribe: ben
20:09:27 [ben]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JanMar/0652.html
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ack yv
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+Bengt_Farre
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q+
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ack Mich
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ack David
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ack gregg
20:15:27 [Zakim]
-Bengt_Farre
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20:18:22 [rscano]
hi all! sorry but this evening i can stay only in IRC
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+Bengt_Farre
20:22:22 [ben]
Topic: Consent Decree Items from Surveys
20:22:55 [ben]
(from normative survey) 403, 1722, 1290
20:23:11 [ben]
20:23:11 [ben]
(from team C survey) 1383, 1622, 1643, 1645, 1827, 1828, 1883, 1885, 1888, 1890, 1886, 1887, 1889, Providing a text message when the user provides information that is not in list of allowed values
20:23:18 [ben]
20:23:18 [ben]
(from 2.4.5 techniques survey) Identifying the purpose of a link using the link context, Providing link text for anchor elements that describes the purpose of a link, Identifying the purpose of a link using link text and text associated with the parent element of the link
20:23:33 [ben]
(from 2.4 issues survey) 1563, 1741, 1812, 1832, 1710, 955, 1715, 1770, 1720
20:23:41 [ben]
(from misc. items survey) 1819, 1360, 1839, 810, 1752, 1875, 1696, 1721, 1766, 1845, 1848, 1854
20:23:47 [Zakim]
+Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:23:57 [ben]
zakim, agenda?
20:23:57 [Zakim]
I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
20:23:58 [Zakim]
1. Remaining Normative Issues for 23 March [from ben]
20:23:59 [Zakim]
2. Team C issues and techniques for 23 March 2006 [from ben]
20:24:00 [Zakim]
3. SC 2.4.5: How To Meet and Techniques [from ben]
20:24:01 [Zakim]
4. GL 2.4 Issues [from ben]
20:24:02 [Zakim]
5. 2 Conformance Questions [from ben]
20:24:02 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 1
20:24:03 [Zakim]
6. 2.3 Proposal from Gregg [from ben]
20:24:04 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Remaining Normative Issues for 23 March" taken up [from ben]
20:25:12 [ben]
Issue 1728: Scoping
20:25:24 [ben]
Topic: Issue 1728: Scoping
20:27:56 [David_MacDonald]
q+
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20:35:14 [gregg]
ack d
20:37:08 [Kesh]
ack Kerst
20:41:00 [ben]
resolution: Accept proposed revisions to scoping section with edits change "inaccessible" to "non-conforming" and replace "process unit" with "if the Web unit is part of a process"
20:41:39 [ben]
Topic: 1767
20:43:30 [ben]
resolution: Move 1.3.4 to Level 1 and close this issue.
20:43:39 [ben]
zakim, close this item
20:43:39 [Zakim]
agendum 1 closed
20:43:40 [Zakim]
I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:43:41 [Zakim]
2. Team C issues and techniques for 23 March 2006 [from ben]
20:43:45 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 2
20:43:45 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Team C issues and techniques for 23 March 2006" taken up [from ben]
20:44:31 [ben]
Topic: 1644
20:45:17 [ben]
resolution: accept proposed definition as, "stopped by user request and not restarted until requested by user"
20:45:38 [ben]
Topic: 1768: Clarify "invalidate the activity"
20:46:20 [Yvette]
q+
20:46:48 [ben]
ack Yv
20:46:55 [Christophe]
zakim, unmute me
20:46:55 [Zakim]
Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
20:48:15 [Christophe]
zakim, mute me
20:48:15 [Zakim]
Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
20:49:03 [ben]
resolution: do not revise the success criterion, and close issue 1768 with, "invalidating the activity better captures the intent and, according to working group memebers, translates better".
20:49:10 [ben]
Topic: Issue 1826
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20:54:51 [ben]
resolution: Close issue 1826 with, "There is not enough experience in applying the techniques with different types of servers and services to move this to level 2 at this time and the group could identify cases involving financial transaction where no one has been able to figure out how to do this without violating regulations regarding storing confidential information on a server after a transaction is completed or terminated."
20:55:04 [ben]
Topic: 1653: 2.5.1 you'll have to reword this
20:59:05 [ben]
20:59:05 [ben]
resolution: Close issue 1653 with, "Audio-only content would not meet the requirements of WCAG under several SC. While WCAG describes accessibility features of audio, audio cannot be used alone without alternatives and be accessible to all users. The guidelines do not forbid using audio feedback about errors. Feedback about errors may be provided in audio, as long as the audio is also associated with text as per guideline 1.1."
20:59:48 [ben]
Topic: 1884: SC 2.5.1 & 2.5.2: client-side validation should be optional
21:00:31 [Kesh]
ack kerst
21:02:20 [Christophe]
zakim, unmute me
21:02:20 [Zakim]
Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
21:04:22 [Christophe]
zakim, mute me
21:04:22 [Zakim]
Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
21:04:32 [ben]
resolution: Close issue 1884 with, "This was discussed determined to be a baseline issue - if script in baseline it should be fine. Either client-side or server-side validation is sufficient (depending on baseline). Note for security this is crucial but that's beyond our scope. Techniques for both client-side and server-side validation are suggested in the general techniques for this SC."
21:04:38 [ben]
zakim, close this item
21:04:38 [Zakim]
agendum 2 closed
21:04:39 [Zakim]
I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:04:41 [Zakim]
3. SC 2.4.5: How To Meet and Techniques [from ben]
21:04:47 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 3
21:04:47 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "SC 2.4.5: How To Meet and Techniques" taken up [from ben]
21:05:03 [ben]
Topic: SC 2.4.5: How to Meet Success Criterion 2.4.5
21:09:12 [ben]
resolution: accept How to Meet Success Criterion 2.4.5 as proposed, but rename technique titled, "Identifying the purpose of a link using the link context" to "Identifying the purpose of a link using link text combined with link context"
21:09:39 [ben]
Topic: SC 2.4.5 General Technique: Providing link text that describes the purpose of a link
21:10:02 [ben]
resolution: Accept General Technique: Providing link text that describes the purpose of a link with edits.
21:10:16 [ben]
Topic: SC 2.4.5 Plain Text Technique: Identifying the purpose of a link using text in the enclosing sentence
21:14:58 [Zakim]
-Andi_Snow-Weaver
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+Andi_Snow-Weaver
21:18:24 [Kesh]
q?
21:20:43 [ben]
resolution: Remove Plain Text Technique: Identifying the purpose of a link using text in the enclosing sentence (not an accessibility issue)
21:22:05 [ben]
zakim, close this item
21:22:05 [Zakim]
agendum 3 closed
21:22:06 [Zakim]
I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:22:07 [Zakim]
4. GL 2.4 Issues [from ben]
21:22:21 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 4
21:22:21 [Zakim]
agendum 4. "GL 2.4 Issues" taken up [from ben]
21:22:42 [ben]
Topic: Issue 1830: SC 2.4.3: remove technique "structure content so main content preceeds repeated material"
21:28:26 [ben]
resolution: Close 1830 by removing technique titled, "structure content so main content preceeds repeated material" and add it to the comments section of the wiki.
21:28:32 [ben]
zakim, close this item
21:28:32 [Zakim]
agendum 4 closed
21:28:33 [Zakim]
I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:28:34 [Zakim]
5. 2 Conformance Questions [from ben]
21:28:36 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 5
21:28:36 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "2 Conformance Questions" taken up [from ben]
21:28:52 [ben]
Topic: Issue 1835 GL 1.4 should require legible contents when using high contrast settings
21:31:29 [ben]
action: Michael and David to work on failure technique titled, "Failure due to specifying foreground colors without specifying background colors or vice versa."
21:34:23 [Yvette]
q+
21:38:51 [ben]
resolution: Close 1835 with, "Discussed at the 26 January 2006 Teleconference [1]: This would appear to require authors to know what operating system features would be for users (on different operating systems). We do not know how to write techniques for something like this. Guideline 1.3 ensures that content can be separated from presentation. This enables the operating system to present the information in an alternative manner, for example using high contrast.
21:38:57 [Yvette]
q-
21:39:06 [ben]
.. has been assigned
21:39:22 [ben]
Topic: Issue 1798 SC 3.1.5 should depend on intended audience educational ability
21:39:26 [Zakim]
-Andi_Snow-Weaver
21:43:05 [ben]
action: John to write a rationale for closing this item
21:43:50 [Zakim]
-Kerstin_and_Cynthia
21:44:04 [ben]
resolution: close 1798 with a combination of Yvette, John and Michael's comments.
21:45:15 [ben]
Topic: Issue 1861 Require use of familiar vocabulary
21:45:39 [ben]
resolution: close as proposed plus Michael's comments
21:46:12 [ben]
Topic: Issue 1446 - Add sign language to alternative representations
21:46:26 [David_MacDonald]
zakim, mute me
21:46:26 [Zakim]
David_MacDonald should now be muted
21:47:52 [David_MacDonald]
zakim, unmute me
21:47:52 [Zakim]
David_MacDonald should no longer be muted
21:53:55 [ben]
21:53:55 [ben]
21:53:55 [ben]
resolution: Close issue 1446 as proposed, with revised note from Gregg's comments.
21:54:32 [ben]
action: team B to add something to intent that suggests using multiple forms to address the needs of different groups
21:54:52 [Yvette]
zakim, mute me
21:54:52 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
21:55:10 [ben]
zakim, close this item
21:55:10 [Zakim]
agendum 5 closed
21:55:11 [Zakim]
I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
21:55:12 [Zakim]
6. 2.3 Proposal from Gregg [from ben]
21:55:17 [ben]
zakim, take up agendum 6
21:55:17 [Zakim]
agendum 6. "2.3 Proposal from Gregg" taken up [from ben]
21:55:25 [ben]
Topic: Revisisons to Level Description
21:56:06 [Zakim]
-Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:58:35 [Yvette]
zakim, unmute me
21:58:35 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink should no longer be muted
22:01:48 [Christophe]
Christophe has left #wai-wcag
22:03:15 [Zakim]
-Christophe_Strobbe
22:06:16 [David_MacDonald]
q+
22:07:09 [ben]
resolution: Accept proposed revisions to level descriptions as proposed, revise second item under level 3 to read, "Can not neccessarily be applied to all Web resources." and revise first note to read, "Because not all level 3 success criteria can be used with all types of content, Triple-A conformance only requires conformance to a portion of level 3 success criteria."
22:07:22 [ben]
Topic: Conformance Paragraph Revision
22:07:27 [ben]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20060323conformance/results#xconfpara
22:07:54 [Zakim]
-Sorcha_Moore
22:08:06 [David_MacDonald]
q-
22:08:08 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
22:08:14 [Sorcha]
sorcha moore rejoinging
22:08:31 [ben]
zakim, [IP is Sorcha_Moore
22:08:31 [Zakim]
+Sorcha_Moore; got it
22:09:55 [Yvette]
q?
22:10:28 [Zakim]
+Katie_Haritos-Shea
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22:13:52 [ben]
resolution: revise this paragraph to read, "All WCAG 2.0 success criteria are testable. While some can be tested by computer programs, others must be tested by qualified human testers. Sometimes, a combination of computer programs and qualified human testers may be used. When people who understand WCAG 2.0 test the same content using the same success criteria, the same results should be obtained with high inter-rater reliability."
22:15:25 [ben]
22:15:25 [ben]
resolution: close Issue 1358 with, "We revised this section to read, "All WCAG 2.0 success criteria are testable. While some can be tested by computer programs, others must be tested by qualified human testers. Sometimes, a combination of computer programs and qualified human testers may be used. When people who understand WCAG 2.0 test the same content using the same success criteria, the same results should be obtained with high inter-rater reliability." "
22:20:00 [ben]
action: Bruce and John to update conformance examples and version numbers and update them appropriately
22:20:20 [ben]
Topic: Guideline 2.3 - additional criterion
22:20:42 [gregg]
q+
22:21:23 [ben]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JanMar/0652.html
22:23:13 [Michael]
q+
22:23:20 [gregg]
ack g
22:23:22 [gregg]
ack m
22:30:14 [ben]
22:30:14 [ben]
resolution: add a new success criterion (2.3.2) at level 3 that reads, "Web units do not contain any compontents that flash more than 3 times in any one second period."
22:35:34 [Yvette]
q+ to ask "reopen?
22:35:53 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
22:35:53 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic (muted), Alex_Li, rellero (muted), Bengt_Farre, Sorcha_Moore,
22:35:56 [Zakim]
... Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:35:57 [Zakim]
Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin
22:37:37 [ben]
Topic: Advance Guidelines to Last Call?
22:40:11 [Yvette]
q-
22:40:15 [Yvette]
ack sor
22:40:28 [Yvette]
ack lo
22:43:27 [ben]
q+
22:46:27 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone
22:46:27 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is on the phone', ben
22:46:38 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
22:46:38 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic (muted), Alex_Li, rellero (muted), Bengt_Farre, Sorcha_Moore,
22:46:38 [Yvette]
zakim, who is on the phone?
22:46:42 [Zakim]
... Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:46:43 [Zakim]
Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin
22:46:44 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic (muted), Alex_Li, rellero (muted), Bengt_Farre, Sorcha_Moore,
22:46:46 [Zakim]
... Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:46:47 [Zakim]
Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin
22:47:13 [ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
22:47:13 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic (muted), Alex_Li, rellero (muted), Bengt_Farre, Sorcha_Moore,
22:47:16 [Zakim]
... Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:47:17 [Zakim]
Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin
22:56:57 [ben]
22:56:57 [ben]
Present: Kerstin_Goldsmith, Cynthia_Shelly, Ben_Caldwell, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sorcha_Moore, Christophe_Strobbe, Sofia_Celic, Alex_Li, Roberto_Ellero, Bruce_Bailey, Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Bengt_Farre, Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:58:53 [Zakim]
-Yvette_Hoitink
22:59:22 [Zakim]
+Yvette_Hoitink
23:01:49 [Zakim]
-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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-Alex_Li
23:11:39 [Yvette]
zakim, who's on the phone?
23:11:39 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ben_Caldwell, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Sofia_Celic (muted), rellero (muted), Bengt_Farre, Sorcha_Moore, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Yvette_Hoitink
23:11:42 [Zakim]
Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden, John_Slatin
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-rellero
23:18:54 [gregg]
/me DEFINITION
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full corrected text screenplay including any interaction
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/me a document describing all visual context, action of the actors, dialog, sounds etc that are typically included in screenplays presented in a multimedia presentation that includes a means for achieving any outcomes that are acheived using interaction during the mulitmedia
23:22:02 [Ryladog]
q+
23:23:28 [Yvette]
ack b
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q-
23:23:50 [ben]
ack Katie
23:23:55 [ben]
ack Ry
23:27:04 [Ryladog]
q+
23:27:23 [ben]
ack Ryla
23:27:26 [ben]
q+
23:34:32 [ben]
Topic: 1.2 revisions
23:34:34 [ben]
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resolution: accept proposed revisions (below) to 1.2 subject to confirmation from members in good standing
23:34:45 [ben]
1.2.1 Captions are provided for prerecorded multimedia.
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1.2.2 Audio descriptions of video or a full corrected text screenplay including any interaction are provided for prerecorded multimedia.
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definition of "full corrected text screenplay including any interaction" as, "a document describing all visual context, action of the actors, dialog, sounds etc that are typically included in screenplays presented in a multimedia presentation that includes a means for achieving any outcomes that are acheived using interaction during the mulitmedia"
23:35:06 [ben]
NOTE: A screenplay used to create the multimedia content would meet this definition only if it was corrected to accurately represent the final multimedia as it occurred and after editing etc.
23:35:13 [ben]
1.2.3 Audio descriptions of video are provided for prerecorded multimedia.
23:35:22 [ben]
Topic: Last Call?
23:35:37 [ben]
resolution: advance WCAG 2.0 guidelines document (as ammended by today's decisions) as a last call working draft.
23:36:16 [Zakim]
-Sofia_Celic
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-Michael_Cooper
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-Bengt_Farre
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-David_MacDonald
23:40:44 [Zakim]
-Ben_Caldwell
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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-Yvette_Hoitink
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-Sorcha_Moore
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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were +1.310.641.aaaa, Kerstin_and_Cynthia, Gregg_Vanderheiden, +1.724.9.aabb, Yvette_Hoitink, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, [IPcaller],
23:40:53 [Zakim]
... Christophe_Strobbe, John_Slatin, Sofia_Celic, Bruce_Bailey, Sorcha_Moore, Alex_Li, rellero, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Bengt_Farre, Katie_Haritos-Shea
23:41:15 [ben]
Zakim, bye
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RRSAgent, bye
23:41:52 [RRSAgent]
I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Michael and David to work on failure technique titled, "Failure due to specifying foreground colors without specifying background colors or vice versa." [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-wai-wcag-irc#T21-31-29
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ACTION: John to write a rationale for closing this item [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-wai-wcag-irc#T21-43-05
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ACTION: team B to add something to intent that suggests using multiple forms to address the needs of different groups [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-wai-wcag-irc#T21-54-32
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ACTION: Bruce and John to update conformance examples and version numbers and update them appropriately [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/23-wai-wcag-irc#T22-20-00