IRC log of dawg on 2006-03-21
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/03/21-dawg-irc
- 14:28:32 [DanC]
- Zakim, who's on the phone?
- 14:28:32 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +1.617.894.aaaa
- 14:28:37 [DanC]
- an early bird
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- +DanC
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- +??P4
- 14:29:13 [EnricoFranconi]
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- Zakim, aaaa is LeeF
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- +LeeF; got it
- 14:29:18 [AndyS_]
- zakim, ??P4 is I
- 14:29:18 [Zakim]
- +AndyS_; got it
- 14:29:41 [DanC]
- agenda + Convene, take roll, review records and agenda
- 14:29:47 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 14:29:51 [DanC]
- agenda + comments related to rdfSemantics, owlDisjunction
- 14:29:55 [jeen]
- Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
- 14:29:55 [Zakim]
- +jeen; got it
- 14:29:59 [DanC]
- agenda + Toward CR: protocol editing, etc.
- 14:30:02 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 14:30:06 [DanC]
- agenda + Toward CR: exit criteria
- 14:30:09 [SteveH]
- Zakim, IPcaller is SteveH
- 14:30:09 [Zakim]
- +SteveH; got it
- 14:30:17 [DanC]
- agenda + Toward CR, comments, misc
- 14:30:28 [DanC]
- agenda + MIME type registrations
- 14:30:34 [DanC]
- agenda + test suite maintenance
- 14:30:40 [DanC]
- agenda + JSON results format
- 14:30:44 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 14:30:50 [JanneS]
- zakim, IPcaller is JanneS
- 14:30:50 [Zakim]
- +JanneS; got it
- 14:31:06 [EliasT]
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- 14:31:09 [DanC]
- Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly
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- Scribe: JanneS
- 14:31:13 [DanC]
- Chair: DanC
- 14:31:23 [JanneS]
- I noticed topic was set to '1400Z' and was worried if I was late for the meeting
- 14:31:26 [kendallclark]
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- 14:31:28 [SteveH]
- zakim, mute me
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- SteveH should now be muted
- 14:31:32 [Zakim]
- +[IBMCambridge]
- 14:31:43 [DanC]
- Regrets: Libby Miller, Sven Groppe
- 14:31:50 [Zakim]
- +Kendall_Clark
- 14:31:51 [DanC]
- Zakim, [IBMCambridge] holds Elias
- 14:31:51 [Zakim]
- +Elias; got it
- 14:31:55 [EliasT]
- Zakim, IBMCambridge is me
- 14:31:55 [Zakim]
- +EliasT; got it
- 14:32:23 [Zakim]
- +??P10
- 14:32:42 [DanC]
- Zakim, ??P10 is Souri
- 14:32:42 [Zakim]
- +Souri; got it
- 14:32:49 [DanC]
- noted, Jeen
- 14:33:10 [DanC]
- Regrets+ Pat Hayes
- 14:33:17 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 14:33:22 [EnricoFranconi]
- zakim, ipcaller is me
- 14:33:22 [Zakim]
- +EnricoFranconi; got it
- 14:33:33 [ericP]
- zakim, please dial ericP-617.2
- 14:33:33 [Zakim]
- ok, ericP; the call is being made
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- +EricP
- 14:33:46 [Souri]
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- 14:33:47 [DanC]
- Zakim, mute EnricoFranconi
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- EnricoFranconi should now be muted
- 14:33:59 [DanC]
- Zakim, unmute EnricoFranconi
- 14:33:59 [Zakim]
- EnricoFranconi should no longer be muted
- 14:34:22 [ericP]
- zakim, please disconnect ericP
- 14:34:22 [Zakim]
- EricP is being disconnected
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- -EricP
- 14:34:25 [ericP]
- zakim, please dial ericP-617.2
- 14:34:25 [Zakim]
- ok, ericP; the call is being made
- 14:34:26 [Zakim]
- +EricP
- 14:34:40 [DanC]
- Zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:34:40 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see LeeF, DanC, AndyS_, jeen, SteveH (muted), JanneS, EliasT, Kendall_Clark, Souri, EnricoFranconi, EricP
- 14:34:43 [Zakim]
- EliasT has Elias
- 14:35:21 [DanC]
- PROPOSED: to ammend Meeting minutes: March 14th, 2006 to show Elias Torres present and correct the spelling of Souripriya Das, and to approve it, as ammended, as a true record
- 14:35:29 [ericP]
- second
- 14:35:30 [DanC]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0448.html minutes 14 MAr
- 14:35:39 [DanC]
- so RESOLVED
- 14:35:47 [DanC]
- PROPOSED: to meet again 27 March, 1400Z; recruit scribe; confirm chair
- 14:36:10 [DanC]
- PROPOSED: to meet again 27 March, 1430Z; recruit scribe; confirm chair
- 14:36:21 [DanC]
- Zakim, pick a scribe
- 14:36:21 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kendall_Clark
- 14:36:33 [JanneS]
- 28 March?
- 14:36:43 [DanC]
- PROPOSED: to meet again 28 March, 1430Z; recruit scribe; confirm chair
- 14:37:01 [ericP]
- 27 March, 1400Z + 24.5 hours
- 14:37:05 [DanC]
- RESOLVED: to meet 28 March, 1430Z, KendallC to scribe
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- -SteveH
- 14:37:22 [DanC]
- ACTION: EricP to email the semweb CG about a sparql-dev mailing list. Done; see new mailing list from DanC 9 Mar [DONE]
- 14:37:24 [Souri]
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- +[IPcaller]
- 14:37:41 [SteveH]
- Zakim, IPcaller is me
- 14:37:41 [Zakim]
- +SteveH; got it
- 14:37:46 [SteveH]
- got kicked off
- 14:37:49 [SteveH]
- zakim, mute me
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- SteveH should now be muted
- 14:37:55 [DanC]
- 8 actions done
- 14:38:30 [DanC]
- Topic: public-sparql-dev
- 14:38:38 [DanC]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0436.html
- 14:38:54 [DanC]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sparql-dev/
- 14:39:00 [DanC]
- EricP: am I the maintainer?
- 14:39:02 [DanC]
- DanC: I hope so
- 14:41:13 [DanC]
- DanC: think about what you need for a CR decision
- 14:41:26 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 14:41:26 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review records and agenda" taken up [from DanC]
- 14:41:30 [DanC]
- Zakim, close item 1
- 14:41:30 [Zakim]
- agendum 1, Convene, take roll, review records and agenda, closed
- 14:41:31 [Zakim]
- I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:41:32 [Zakim]
- 2. comments related to rdfSemantics, owlDisjunction [from DanC]
- 14:41:34 [ericP]
- i found 6 subscribe requests to public-sparql-dev-request@w3.org
- 14:41:36 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 14:41:36 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "comments related to rdfSemantics, owlDisjunction" taken up [from DanC]
- 14:42:18 [DanC]
- ACTION: Enrico to explain definitions in reply to LeeF's questions (done: 28 Feb) [DONE]
- 14:42:29 [DanC]
- ACTION LeeF: to find email thread about wording of restricting pattern solution domain to variables in BGP; follow up on that to get text back into rq23 [CONTINUES]
- 14:42:39 [DanC]
- LeeF: I'm likely to ask to withdraw, based on discussion with AndyS
- 14:42:55 [SerT]
- yes
- 14:43:14 [JanneS]
- CTION: SergioT to ask Ian Horrocks if he is satisfied with DAWG resolution of owlDisjunction, in reply to 2005-09-11T21:34:55Z Ian Horrocks DONE
- 14:43:33 [JanneS]
- ACTION: LeeF to create test case resulting from 2006-03-03T11:15Z (before lunch, 2nd day) whiteboard discussion
- 14:43:51 [Zakim]
- -LeeF
- 14:43:54 [ericP]
- ACTION: SergioT to ask Ian Horrocks if he is satisfied with DAWG resolution of owlDisjunction, in reply to 2005-09-11T21:34:55Z Ian Horrocks [DONE]
- 14:43:56 [DanC]
- LeeF? does that share state with your earlier action?
- 14:44:09 [ericP]
- JanneS, just noticed it was missing the initial 'A'
- 14:44:26 [JanneS]
- uh, learning to copy&paste
- 14:44:32 [ericP]
- np
- 14:44:36 [SerT]
- not yet
- 14:44:58 [SerT]
- yes
- 14:45:09 [JanneS]
- LeeF's action continued.
- 14:45:21 [JanneS]
- ACTION: SergioT to respond to 2005-09-18T15:02:48Z Peter F. Patel-Schneider (overtaken by more recent last call?) [ CONTINUED ]
- 14:45:46 [DanC]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0021.html
- 14:46:05 [JanneS]
- ACTION: SerT to make test case for bnode scope in different BGPs. DONE in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0446.html
- 14:46:15 [SerT]
- that's done
- 14:46:27 [SerT]
- I sent the testcases around
- 14:46:31 [DanC]
- yes, thanks
- 14:46:44 [AndyS_]
- I checked them in
- 14:47:00 [DanC]
- bonus points
- 14:47:07 [AndyS_]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0451.html
- 14:47:35 [jeen]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Construct/
- 14:47:43 [LeeF]
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- 14:48:03 [DanC]
- perhaps dawg-construct-identity ?
- 14:48:13 [AndyS_]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Construct/query-ident.rq
- 14:48:33 [AndyS_]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Construct/query-reif.rq
- 14:48:38 [ericP]
- second
- 14:48:49 [AndyS_]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/BNodes/query.rq
- 14:48:51 [JosDeRoo]
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- 14:48:54 [DanC]
- PROPOSED: to adopt dawg-construct-identity dawg-construct-subgraph dawg-construct-reification
- 14:49:04 [DanC]
- so RESOLVED
- 14:49:37 [SerT]
- testcase for my action is in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/BNodes/
- 14:49:40 [AndyS_]
- Jeen - we ought to email about the subgraph test more clearly
- 14:49:59 [DanC]
- Regrets+ JosDeRoo
- 14:50:03 [DanC]
- ok, Jos
- 14:50:04 [SerT]
- that was about maintaining bnode coreferences in answersets
- 14:50:18 [DanC]
- sergio, is that a different test, related to this agendum?
- 14:50:30 [JosDeRoo]
- thanks DanC
- 14:50:31 [jeen]
- andyS, in relation to the requirements you mean?
- 14:50:33 [SerT]
- that was the one mentioned in the action
- 14:50:47 [SerT]
- I added two testcases about construct
- 14:51:02 [SerT]
- but there wasn't a specific action
- 14:51:33 [DanC]
- is dawg-bnode-coreference ready?
- 14:51:36 [DanC]
- AndyS says yes
- 14:51:42 [AndyS_]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Construct/query-subgraph.rq
- 14:51:55 [AndyS_]
- That is a new test we needed to cover UC&R
- 14:52:07 [AndyS_]
- (subgraph requirment)
- 14:52:07 [DanC]
- Jeen 2nds dawg-bnode-coreference (in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/BNodes/manifest.ttl _
- 14:53:30 [DanC]
- PROPOSED: to adopt dawg-bnode-coreference (in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/BNodes/manifest.ttl )
- 14:53:46 [DanC]
- so RESOLVED.
- 14:54:58 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 14:54:58 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Toward CR: protocol editing, etc." taken up [from DanC]
- 14:55:25 [JanneS]
- ACTION: KC to update protocol references to [SRD] and WSDL [ CONTINUED ]
- 14:55:26 [LeeF]
- haven't gotten to it yet
- 14:55:31 [LeeF]
- this week hopefully
- 14:55:39 [JanneS]
- ACTION: LeeF to try SPARQL WSDL files with Woden validator, report results. [ CONTINUED ]
- 14:55:46 [DanC]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2006Feb/0009.html WSD WG comments
- 14:56:06 [LeeF]
- zakim, LeeF is with EliasT
- 14:56:06 [Zakim]
- +LeeF; got it
- 14:56:44 [ericP]
- LeeF, while you're in the validating mindset, you may want to run the WSDL1.1 through HugoH's 1.1=>2.0 xslt service
- 14:57:09 [LeeF]
- yes, I suppose I may want to do that
- 14:57:10 [LeeF]
- :-)
- 14:57:25 [ericP]
- of *course* you do
- 14:58:27 [DanC]
- ACTION KC: change query/queryrequest names as requested in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2006Feb/0009.html
- 14:59:29 [DanC]
- (maybe not)
- 15:00:33 [DanC]
- action -10
- 15:02:35 [DanC]
- ACTION KC: confirm that SPARQL WSDL query/queryrequest and maxOccurs do not need to be changed, despite http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2006Feb/0009.html
- 15:04:09 [LeeF]
- sure
- 15:06:09 [DanC]
- KC is not aware of any substantive changes to SPARQL WSDL that he's inclined to make
- 15:06:18 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 15:06:18 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Toward CR: exit criteria" taken up [from DanC]
- 15:06:56 [JanneS]
- ACTION: SteveH and AndyS to map approved tests to UC&R features. DONE in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0455.html ?
- 15:07:13 [DanC]
- ACTION AndyS: conjure some LIMIT/OFFSET tests
- 15:07:31 [SteveH]
- done as fas as im concerned
- 15:08:21 [JanneS]
- ACTION: DanC to noodle on SOAP exit criteria [ DONE during teleconf ]
- 15:08:41 [DanC]
- since (a) we have a WSDL requirement, (b) we're resolved to have a test for every requirement by CR exit
- 15:08:49 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 15:08:49 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "Toward CR, comments, misc" taken up [from DanC]
- 15:09:29 [JanneS]
- ACTION: DanC to respond to major technical: underspecified errors
- 15:10:34 [JanneS]
- DanC: are there still major issues from Oracle?
- 15:10:49 [DanC]
- old last comment status: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2006Mar/att-0022/lc-status-report.html__charset_us-ascii
- 15:13:27 [DanC]
- (Janne, pls note these arguments?)
- 15:13:29 [DanC]
- (or somebody?)
- 15:13:49 [JanneS]
- Oracle's implementation elaborated: identifier length problem related to colum name length
- 15:14:02 [Zakim]
- -jeen
- 15:14:33 [JanneS]
- Souripriya thinks there isn't an issue with this, though. Internal discussions to take place within oracle
- 15:15:36 [DanC]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2006Jan/0066.html major technical: underspecified errors
- 15:15:37 [JanneS]
- DanC: another issue is the underspecified errors in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2006Jan/0066.html
- 15:16:07 [kendallclark]
- wow, I can't hear Eric at all.
- 15:17:21 [JanneS]
- Kendall: we've rather taken light-weight approach to describing errors (instead of enumerating lots of them)
- 15:18:19 [AndyS_]
- QL doc defines what SPARQL *is* - if anything gets outside what it *is* then it isn't SPARQL and what happens is not defined by the spec.
- 15:18:35 [JanneS]
- DanC: planning to give one week now for organizations to get ready for entering CR
- 15:18:38 [DanC]
- # ACTION: DanC to respond to major technical: underspecified errors [WITHDRAWN]
- 15:18:53 [DanC]
- ACTION: DanC to join the [2005-09-08T01:26:59Z Peter F. Patel-Schneider] thread with PPS's late Feb comments
- 15:19:19 [EnricoFranconi]
- I guess so
- 15:19:25 [AndyS_]
- e.g. It's an RDQL query - could choose to find the RDQL parser to be helpful but it's not SPARQL anymore
- 15:19:43 [EnricoFranconi]
- yes
- 15:20:23 [DanC]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/lc-status-report.html comment status 1.68
- 15:20:47 [DanC]
- ACTION: DanC to join the [2005-09-08T01:26:59Z Peter F. Patel-Schneider] thread with PPS's late Feb comments [WITHDRAWN]
- 15:21:20 [kendallclark]
- they were legion :0
- 15:21:23 [kendallclark]
- erp, :>
- 15:22:33 [JanneS]
- Kendall: from experience PPS's comments help us find bugs
- 15:22:52 [JanneS]
- DanC: PPS's comments could be converted to test cases at best
- 15:23:19 [DanC]
- I'm inclined to mark his comments [needstest], but not critical to CR
- 15:24:00 [JanneS]
- ('at best' not good English in my previous note, oh well)
- 15:24:19 [ericP]
- please
- 15:24:35 [JanneS]
- # ACTION: EricP to work on [2006-02-24T08:45:23Z Olivier Corby], potentially automating examples2tests progress [CONTINUED ]
- 15:24:46 [JanneS]
- ACTION: EricP to work on [2006-02-24T08:45:23Z Olivier Corby], potentially automating examples2tests progress [ CONTINUED ]
- 15:25:41 [DanC]
- # ACTION: SvenG to follow up with Reto Krummenacher on [2006-02-24T16:40:55Z Reto Krummenacher]. Note: the thread is closed as of 14 March [DONE]
- 15:25:48 [JanneS]
- ACTION: SvenG to follow up with Reto Krummenacher on [2006-02-24T16:40:55Z Reto Krummenacher]. DONE
- 15:26:38 [Zakim]
- -SteveH
- 15:26:45 [DanC]
- ACTION DanC: send [OK?] msg to 2006-02-22T23:56:54Z Peter F. Patel-Schneider on Section 1 and Section 2, basically, [needstest]
- 15:27:33 [ericP]
- sweet!
- 15:27:35 [JanneS]
- AndyS: Lee sent OK msg already to that
- 15:27:45 [DanC]
- bonus points to lee http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2006Mar/0001.html
- 15:27:59 [LeeF]
- right
- 15:28:35 [DanC]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/crq349 cr request, 1.21
- 15:28:40 [JanneS]
- ACTION: DanC to draft request for CR progress: CR request, in progress
- 15:30:15 [DanC]
- 1.114 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/proto-wd/Overview.html
- 15:30:17 [SteveH]
- are we going beyond 1530Z?
- 15:30:32 [DanC]
- . http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/proto-wd/sparql-protocol-query.wsdl
- 15:31:12 [DanC]
- sparql-protocol-query.wsdl,v 1.17 2006/01/11 19:14:45
- 15:31:14 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 15:31:17 [DanC]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/proto-wd/sparql-protocol-types.xsd
- 15:31:20 [SteveH]
- Zakim, IPcaller is SteveH
- 15:31:20 [Zakim]
- +SteveH; got it
- 15:31:29 [DanC]
- sparql-protocol-types.xsd,v 1.17 2006/01/11 19:15:22
- 15:31:35 [SteveH]
- zakim, mute me
- 15:31:35 [Zakim]
- SteveH should now be muted
- 15:32:50 [DanC]
- AndyS: overview, defns, parsers
- 15:33:04 [ericP]
- how about this examples.hmtl that i'm working on?
- 15:33:29 [DanC]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/ results format 1.78 $ of $Date: 2006/01/04 15:59:22
- 15:33:35 [ericP]
- specifically, http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/examples
- 15:33:36 [ericP]
- yes
- 15:33:40 [AndyS_]
- Overview: 1.664
- 15:34:00 [ericP]
- ok, drop it
- 15:34:09 [ericP]
- right
- 15:34:12 [AndyS_]
- Defns: v1.3
- 15:34:32 [AndyS_]
- Parsers: its a directory
- 15:34:42 [JanneS]
- DanC: planning to go CR on March-29
- 15:35:24 [ericP]
- i can make a read-only bit in ycaker
- 15:35:26 [ericP]
- yacker
- 15:36:27 [ericP]
- i can vouch for the C and C++ versions as well
- 15:36:33 [ericP]
- yup
- 15:36:48 [DanC]
- ACTION: check in C and C++ generated grammars.
- 15:37:09 [ericP]
- hmm, i guess diff would work
- 15:37:23 [AndyS_]
- BNF is v1.1
- 15:37:44 [DanC]
- rq23/parsers/sparql.bnf 1.1, concur
- 15:39:01 [EliasT]
- currently swapping
- 15:39:02 [DanC]
- Zakim, who's on the phone?
- 15:39:02 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see DanC, AndyS_, JanneS, EliasT, Kendall_Clark, Souri, EnricoFranconi, EricP, SteveH (muted)
- 15:39:04 [Zakim]
- EliasT has Elias, LeeF
- 15:39:37 [JanneS]
- Looking for todo items @@ in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/crq349
- 15:43:05 [JanneS]
- DanC: there are no process requirements for a minimum duration, rather just market acceptance with a reasonable time window such as 2 months
- 15:43:10 [DanC]
- several advise in favor of 30 May 2006
- 15:43:11 [JanneS]
- Kendall: 2 months a reasonable minimum
- 15:43:45 [JanneS]
- AndyS: we could look for implementations outside the WG members for more credibility
- 15:43:57 [DanC]
- CR exit critera += XQuery F&O to PR
- 15:44:49 [JanneS]
- DanC: there is risk that the XQuery dependency will delay our CR
- 15:45:17 [JanneS]
- (this scribe should finish in 5 mins, if that's ok)
- 15:46:11 [JanneS]
- DanC: @@ XML Query review comments: done
- 15:46:38 [JanneS]
- DanC: @@ dependency on WSDL 2.0: Kendall coordinating
- 15:46:55 [kendallclark]
- I will certainly know for sure before the drop-dead point.
- 15:47:40 [JanneS]
- DanC: @@ no changes to protocol since Jan WD: confirmed
- 15:48:45 [JanneS]
- Klyne's comment : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2005Apr/0010.html
- 15:49:36 [ericP]
- does it? cwm?
- 15:49:47 [ericP]
- doing it by quads
- 15:52:09 [EnricoFranconi]
- bye!
- 15:52:22 [Zakim]
- -EnricoFranconi
- 15:52:23 [kendallclark]
- we failed at any supererogation. big woop.
- 15:52:25 [AndyS_]
- cwm stores "literal graphs"
- 15:52:33 [SerT]
- got to leave...
- 15:52:49 [DanC]
- "WG will enter the second phase in which it will write a formal specification and test cases for this language."
- 15:53:31 [kendallclark]
- and "formal specification" is a bit vague
- 15:54:30 [kendallclark]
- do we have any flowery language anywhere?! :>
- 15:56:25 [SteveH]
- I still the the design in the spec. is bad
- 15:57:14 [ericP]
- we don't have to worry about hayes's objection?
- 15:57:16 [ericP]
- cool!
- 15:57:33 [ericP]
- i think unicode prob is solved
- 15:58:10 [ericP]
- he has no new info. all the old info on $ vs ? is still relevent
- 15:59:15 [kendallclark]
- i've heard *no* complaints from actual implementers or sparql trainers on the ?/$ point.
- 15:59:24 [kendallclark]
- harold's point notwithstanding
- 15:59:34 [kendallclark]
- he's only claimed that he thinks this will confuse, not that it confuses.
- 15:59:46 [DanC]
- WBS form http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35463/crq349/
- 16:00:09 [ericP]
- if steve has a formal objection to SPARQL Query, does he have a formal objection to going to CR?
- 16:00:26 [JanneS]
- DanC: in CR WG is still formally obliged to respond to all comments
- 16:00:28 [ericP]
- (danc)
- 16:00:43 [DanC]
- PROPOSED: to advance SPARQL to CR as discussed in this meeting, contingent on successful outcomes of actions in this meeting.
- 16:00:59 [DanC]
- responses to proposal to be gathered via http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35463/crq349/
- 16:01:22 [DanC]
- you'll get "please fill out the form" notice in email today.
- 16:01:39 [SteveH]
- will fill in form
- 16:02:05 [DanC]
- ACTION: Jeen to figure out whether he can become test case editor and report back by telecon on Mar 14 [DONE]
- 16:02:21 [ericP]
- 2nd
- 16:02:22 [JanneS]
- 2nded
- 16:02:24 [DanC]
- ADJOURN.
- 16:02:32 [Zakim]
- -Souri
- 16:02:36 [Zakim]
- -SteveH
- 16:02:43 [JanneS]
- Zakim, who WAS on the phone
- 16:02:46 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who WAS on the phone', JanneS
- 16:02:58 [Zakim]
- -Kendall_Clark
- 16:03:04 [Zakim]
- -EricP
- 16:03:09 [LeeF]
- Zakim, list attendees
- 16:03:23 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been +1.617.894.aaaa, DanC, LeeF, AndyS_, jeen, SteveH, JanneS, Kendall_Clark, Elias, EliasT, Souri, EnricoFranconi, EricP
- 16:03:54 [Zakim]
- -JanneS
- 16:04:03 [AndyS_]
- Interest here in a RDF/JSON
- 16:04:27 [Zakim]
- -EliasT
- 16:04:33 [Zakim]
- -DanC
- 16:04:45 [Zakim]
- -AndyS_
- 16:04:48 [AndyS_]
- AndyS_ has left #dawg
- 16:04:57 [Zakim]
- SW_DAWG()9:30AM has ended
- 16:05:01 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +1.617.894.aaaa, DanC, LeeF, AndyS_, jeen, SteveH, JanneS, Kendall_Clark, Elias, EliasT, Souri, EnricoFranconi, EricP
- 16:05:38 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, make logs world-access
- 16:05:45 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, pointer?
- 16:05:45 [RRSAgent]
- See http://www.w3.org/2006/03/21-dawg-irc#T16-05-45
- 16:09:19 [JosDeRoo]
- JosDeRoo has left #dawg
- 16:15:56 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, stop