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20:46:09 <bob> zakim, this will be ws_addrwg
20:46:09 <Zakim> ok, bob; I see WS_AddrWG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
20:46:32 <bob> Meeting: Web Services Addressing WG Teleconference
20:46:45 <bob> Chair: Bob Freund
20:47:49 <bob> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/7D5D3FDA429F4D469ADF210408D6245A03910B@jeeves.freunds.com
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20:57:32 <Zakim> WS_AddrWG()4:00PM has now started
20:57:40 <Zakim> + +44.196.286.aaaa - is perhaps Katy_Warr?
20:57:55 <Zakim> +Gilbert_Pilz
20:57:58 <Zakim> -Mark_Peel/Katy_Warr
20:57:59 <Zakim> +Mark_Peel/Katy_Warr
20:58:20 <Zakim> +David_Illsley
20:58:56 <Zakim> +Vikas_Deolaliker
20:59:16 <Zakim> +Bob_Freund
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20:59:35 <Zakim> +??P5
20:59:53 <TonyR> zakim, ??p5 is me
20:59:53 <Zakim> +TonyR; got it
20:59:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
21:00:12 <Bozhong> IP Caller is Bozhong
21:00:32 <Zakim> +Hugo
21:00:49 <Katy> Katy has joined #ws-addr
21:00:51 <Zakim> +Mark_Little
21:00:52 <Jonathan> Jonathan has joined #ws-addr
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21:01:09 <Zakim> +Dave_Hull
21:01:33 <Zakim> +Prasad_Yendluri
21:01:52 <Katy> zakim, mute Katy
21:01:52 <Zakim> sorry, Katy, I do not see a party named 'Katy'
21:02:00 <Zakim> +Jonathan_Marsh
21:02:03 <dhull> dhull has joined #ws-addr
21:02:08 <Zakim> +Paul_Downey
21:02:18 <pauld> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:02:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mark_Peel/Katy_Warr, Gilbert_Pilz, David_Illsley, Vikas_Deolaliker, Bob_Freund, TonyR, [IPcaller], Hugo, Mark_Little, Dave_Hull, Prasad_Yendluri, Jonathan_Marsh,
21:02:22 <Zakim> ... Paul_Downey
21:02:29 <pauld> zakim, mute Katy_Warr
21:02:29 <Zakim> sorry, pauld, I do not see a party named 'Katy_Warr'
21:02:36 <Katy> thanks paul
21:02:46 <Katy> nice try
21:02:55 <Katy> i've used 61#
21:03:06 <pauld> zakim, Mark_Peel/Katy_Warr is Katy
21:03:06 <Zakim> +Katy; got it
21:03:16 <Zakim> +Anish
21:03:31 <Zakim> +Pete_Wenzel
21:03:52 <vikas> I shall be your scribe for today. Hello all
21:04:05 <pauld> scribe: vikas
21:04:28 <vikas> Agenda:
21:04:58 <vikas> 1) AI and 2) Some new isssues 3) Status of Director call
21:05:09 <Zakim> +Tom_Rutt
21:05:17 <vikas> dhull: Wants to add editorial comments as agenda item
21:05:34 <pauld> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing/2006Mar/0070.html
21:06:21 <vikas> bob: Objections to minutes to March 2nd F2F?
21:06:40 <Zakim> +Marc_Hadley
21:06:50 <Zakim> +GlenD
21:06:51 <vikas> bob: Objections to March 3rd F2F?
21:06:59 <marc> marc has joined #ws-addr
21:07:29 <vikas> bob: Accepted minutes of March 2nd, 3rd 
21:07:41 <vikas> bob: Objections to March 13th minutes? 
21:08:04 <vikas> bob: No objections raised; minutes accepted and will be posted to website
21:08:23 <Zakim> +[IBM]
21:08:31 <Paco> Paco has joined #ws-addr
21:08:39 <Zakim> +Andreas_Bjarlestam
21:10:44 <vikas> bob: LC for WSDL is end of month; Not seeing many comments; but if we can stay real-time in our response it woudl be great
21:11:44 <vikas> bob: Jonathan to get comments out
21:11:50 <vikas> Jonathan: Work in progress
21:12:13 <Zakim> + +1.781.883.aabb
21:12:55 <vikas> bob: Hugo AI on Infoset Reference was given to hugo
21:13:18 <vikas> hugo: Mark and Tony had AI on LC117
21:13:31 <vikas> on LC116
21:14:12 <pauld> zakim, aabb is Paul_Knight
21:14:12 <Zakim> sorry, pauld, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
21:14:23 <pauld> zakim, ?aabb is Paul_Knight
21:14:23 <Zakim> sorry, pauld, I do not recognize a party named '?aabb'
21:14:50 <vikas> bob: LC112 AI pending; Owner: Hugo
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21:15:37 <dhull> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing-comments/2006Mar/0004.html
21:15:38 <vikas> bob: Dave Hull Issue
21:16:15 <pauld> zakim,  +1.781.883.aabb is Paul_Knight
21:16:15 <Zakim> sorry, pauld, I do not recognize a party named '+1.781.883.aabb'
21:16:53 <pauld> zakim, > /dev/null 2>&1
21:16:53 <Zakim> I don't understand '> /dev/null 2>&1', pauld
21:17:06 <Zakim> +??P25
21:17:23 <yinleng> zakim, ??P25 is me
21:17:23 <Zakim> +yinleng; got it
21:18:44 <vikas> dhull: Describes the bullets in the issues (link posted above)
21:19:05 <bob> Bullet 2:
21:19:08 <bob> Section 3.2.1 defines the {anonymous required} WSDL property that 
21:19:08 <bob>       reflects the value of the wsaw:Anonymous element.  This may have 
21:19:08 <bob>       one of the three values "optional", "required" or "prohibited".  
21:19:08 <bob>       The name {anonymous required} (unlike wsaw:Anonymous) strongly 
21:19:08 <bob>       suggests a boolean, and having "prohibited" as a value for 
21:19:09 <bob>       {anonymous required} seems confusing.  Either calling it 
21:19:11 <bob>       {anonymous} in line with wsa:Anonymous or something like 
21:19:13 <vikas> bob: Could we come up with something specific instead of (a) or (b) Choices
21:19:13 <bob>       {anonymous EPR constraint} might be less potentially confusing. 
21:19:42 <Jonathan> {anonymous addresses}?
21:19:50 <bob> change recommended in bullet 1 was accepted
21:21:31 <vikas> bob: Why not use {anonymous addresses} in response to bullet 2 
21:22:00 <vikas> Bullet 3: 
21:22:00 <vikas> The first paragraph of section 4.2.1 refers to the [action]
21:22:01 <vikas>       property of messages and says that if no value is given it reverts
21:22:01 <vikas>       to the SOAPAction if any.  This isn't referring to the actual
21:22:01 <vikas>       [action] property of the message in question -- putting something
21:22:01 <vikas>       in a WSDL doesn't automatically cause messages to contain that
21:22:03 <vikas>       property.  Instead it's talking about what the endpoint is saying
21:22:05 <vikas>       it will accept and produce for the [action] property. 
21:22:06 <bob> resolution: use {anonymous addresses} as resolution to bullet 2
21:22:07 <vikas>       Unfortunately, I'm not sure how the wording can be improved (but I
21:22:09 <vikas>       would take an action to come up with a better wording if need be)
21:24:41 <bob> n.b. dhull's email is recorded as lc119
21:26:12 <vikas> resolution to bullet 3: Drop with no action
21:26:20 <bob> RESOLUTION: brop bullet 3 with no action
21:27:22 <vikas> Bullet 4: 
21:27:35 <vikas> resolution: bullet 4 is withdrawn
21:27:55 <vikas> Bullet 5: 
21:27:57 <vikas> Nit: In section 5, we talk about properties being "mandatory" or
21:27:57 <vikas>       "optional".  "Required" might be better than "mandatory", since
21:27:57 <vikas>       things like RFC 2119 use "required"/"optional" and not
21:27:57 <vikas>       "mandatory"/"optional".  On the other hand, WSN ended up changing
21:27:57 <vikas>       a few instances of "optional" in the case of "optional elements"
21:27:59 <vikas>       because we didn't think it really matched the RFC 2119 sense.  I
21:28:00 <vikas>       believe we settled on "can be omitted".  The main issue is whether
21:28:02 <vikas>       we specifically want use RFC 2119 terms here, specifically don't
21:28:04 <vikas>       want to use them, or don't care.
21:28:09 <Zakim> -Mark_Little
21:34:45 <vikas> Resolution to bullet 5: Strike the word "optional" where it appears in Section 5
21:35:12 <Jonathan> s/word "optional"/words "or optional"/
21:35:26 <vikas> thanks jonathan
21:35:58 <vikas> Topic: Next F2F Meeting, IBM hosted at Cambridge, MA
21:36:31 <gpilz> when again?
21:36:49 <marc> May 3, 4
21:36:57 <vikas> When: May 3-4
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21:37:21 <Zakim> -yinleng
21:37:48 <anish> do we need 2 hr weekly calls?
21:38:17 <vikas> Wrapping up...
21:40:06 <vikas> AI: For editors to do RFC 2119 of document
21:40:07 <Zakim> -Paul_Downey
21:40:09 <Zakim> -[IBM]
21:40:10 <Zakim> -Anish
21:40:12 <Zakim> -Andreas_Bjarlestam
21:40:12 <vikas> End of Meeting
21:40:13 <Zakim> -Jonathan_Marsh
21:40:14 <Zakim> -Bob_Freund
21:40:15 <Zakim> -GlenD
21:40:16 <Zakim> -Marc_Hadley
21:40:17 <Zakim> -Dave_Hull
21:40:18 <Zakim> -Katy
21:40:20 <Zakim> -David_Illsley
21:40:21 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
21:40:22 <Zakim> -TonyR
21:40:24 <Zakim> -Tom_Rutt
21:40:26 <Zakim> -Pete_Wenzel
21:40:28 <Zakim> - +1.781.883.aaaa
21:40:30 <Zakim> -Prasad_Yendluri
21:40:32 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
21:40:33 <bob> Adjourned at 4:40p
21:40:34 <Zakim> -Vikas_Deolaliker
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21:40:59 <vikas> AI: Editor to do RFC 2119 scan of the document
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21:44:06 <bob> s/AI/ACTION
21:44:27 <bob> rrsagent, make logs public
21:44:39 <bob> rrsagent, generate minutes
21:44:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-ws-addr-minutes.html bob
21:45:32 <bob> s/resolution/RESOLUTION
21:45:46 <bob> rrsagent, generate minutes
21:45:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-ws-addr-minutes.html bob
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22:58:26 <Zakim> -Hugo
22:58:28 <Zakim> WS_AddrWG()4:00PM has ended
22:58:29 <Zakim> Attendees were +44.196.286.aaaa, Gilbert_Pilz, David_Illsley, Vikas_Deolaliker, Bob_Freund, TonyR, [IPcaller], Hugo, Mark_Little, Dave_Hull, Prasad_Yendluri, Jonathan_Marsh,
22:58:32 <Zakim> ... Paul_Downey, Katy, Anish, Pete_Wenzel, Tom_Rutt, Marc_Hadley, GlenD, [IBM], Andreas_Bjarlestam, +1.781.883.aabb, yinleng
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