17:54:50 RRSAgent has joined #swbp 17:54:50 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc 17:54:53 rrsagent, please make log public 17:55:03 zakim, code? 17:55:03 the conference code is 7927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), dbooth 17:55:28 SW_BPD()1:00PM has now started 17:55:30 +DBooth 17:57:14 FabGandon has joined #swbp 17:59:27 +Evan_Wallace 17:59:29 -Evan_Wallace 17:59:30 +Evan_Wallace 17:59:45 Jacco has joined #swbp 17:59:57 GaryNg has joined #swbp 18:00:17 +[UMD] 18:00:26 +Ralph 18:00:47 chalaschek has joined #swbp 18:00:57 +Rigo 18:00:59 zakimk, [UMD] is Chris 18:01:09 zakim, [Rigo] is FabGandon 18:01:09 sorry, FabGandon, I do not recognize a party named '[Rigo]' 18:01:09 zakim, [UMD] is Chris 18:01:11 +Chris; got it 18:01:15 +Steve 18:01:20 RRS has joined #swbp 18:01:20 +??P8 18:01:25 zakim, Rigo is FabGandon 18:01:25 +FabGandon; got it 18:01:27 raphael has joined #swbp 18:01:36 zakim, ??p8 is Raphael 18:01:36 +Raphael; got it 18:02:08 good evening/afternoon everybody 18:02:15 Zakim, mute FabGandon 18:02:15 FabGandon should now be muted 18:02:15 Meeting: SWBPD WG 18:02:31 Zakim, mute raphael 18:02:31 Raphael should now be muted 18:02:42 hi there 18:02:56 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0052.html 18:03:06 Hi all, I'm trying to connect through skype. 18:03:06 hi everyone 18:03:09 Chair: Ralph 18:03:16 Elisa has joined #swbp 18:03:23 any one who knows how to give the conference code through skype? 18:03:51 Agenda formatted for easier scribe copy and paste: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0070.html 18:04:06 zakim, pick a scribe 18:04:06 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Evan_Wallace 18:04:11 +Elisa_Kendall 18:04:29 zakim, pick a scribe 18:04:29 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Elisa_Kendall 18:04:48 zakim, pick a scribe 18:04:48 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose FabGandon (muted) 18:04:55 OK 18:05:08 zakim, mute me 18:05:08 Elisa_Kendall should now be muted 18:06:18 +Jacco 18:06:53 zakim, who's on the call? 18:06:53 On the phone I see DBooth, Evan_Wallace, Chris, Ralph, FabGandon (muted), +47.22.80.aaaa, Raphael (muted), Elisa_Kendall (muted), Jacco (muted) 18:07:13 zakim, aaaa is SteveP 18:07:13 +SteveP; got it 18:07:17 ScribeNick: FabGandon 18:07:19 Scribe: Fabien Gandon 18:07:31 -> http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes previous meeting 2006-03-06 18:07:47 Topic: 1. ADMIN 18:07:54 Minutes are approved. 18:08:19 Next meeting: 3rd of April. 18:08:21 18:08:37 Topic: 3. Task Force Updates 18:09:01 ACTION: David and Guus prepare a list of expected outcomes of SWBP for 20 March telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action17] 18:09:28 vasilis has joined #swbp 18:09:35 +GiorgosStamou 18:09:36 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0060.html [ALL] overview SWBPD output 18:09:52 zakim, unmute me 18:09:52 Elisa_Kendall should no longer be muted 18:09:54 not yet 18:10:03 Hi it's vassilis Tzouvaras not giorgos Stamou 18:10:27 zakim, GiorgosStamou is really Vassilis_Tzouvaras 18:10:27 sorry, dbooth, I do not recognize a party named 'GiorgosStamou' 18:10:38 Ralphs: any comments on the list. 18:10:40 EComments from Steve and Elisa 18:10:47 -- done action 18:10:54 Steve: comments are more procedurals 18:10:56 zakim, GiorgosStamou is really vasilis 18:10:56 sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named 'GiorgosStamou' 18:11:01 MMTF: we see the setup of an XG also as an outcome 18:11:21 Ralph: no need to discuss it here. 18:11:26 Topic: 3.1 PORT 18:11:43 Topic: V3.2 OEP 18:11:52 Topic: 3.2 OEP 18:12:12 ACTION: Guus check with Elisa and Deb on which remaining OEP notes are feasible to complete by 1 May [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] 18:12:21 ACTION: Guus remind Giorgos, Fabien, and Phil that their review of Semantic Interoperability editor's draft should now commence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action03] [DONE] 18:12:27 zakim, mute me 18:12:27 sorry, vasilis, I do not see a party named 'vasilis' 18:12:45 -- done action 18:12:45 ACTION: Elisa/Chris to work with Ralph to make part-whole doc ready for publication (Elisa took over this action from Chris and Alan) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action11] [PENDING] 18:13:03 ACTION: Guus to review OWL Time note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING] 18:13:22 ACTION: Raphael Georgios S, Fabien, Phil to review Semantic Integration note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING] 18:13:37 ACTION: RalphS will make a publication request for the SE Primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action24] [DONE] 18:13:41 vassilis has joined #swbp 18:13:56 zakim, mute me 18:13:56 sorry, vassilis, I do not see a party named 'vassilis' 18:14:27 Ralph : do we need reviewers on part-all 18:14:29 Elisa: don't remember who should review but enough changes to be reviewed. 18:15:02 Ralph: volunteers? 18:15:04 Steve I am volunteer. 18:15:25 ACTION: Ralph to find out who were previous reviewers of part-whole doc and see if they will re-review 18:16:34 zakim, unmute me 18:16:34 Raphael should no longer be muted 18:16:56 Ralph: semantic integration note. 18:17:05 Elisa: the note is posted. 18:17:19 Raphael: I will review it this week. 18:17:27 Fab: same for me. 18:18:21 Topic: 3.3 WordNet 18:18:26 zakim, unmute me 18:18:26 Raphael was not muted, raphael 18:18:26 Steve: the title of the part-all note is not the right one. 18:18:37 zakim, mute me 18:18:37 Elisa_Kendall should now be muted 18:18:37 zakim, mute me 18:18:38 Raphael should now be muted 18:18:39 Ralph: anyone from Wordnet? no. 18:18:52 My review : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0049.html 18:18:58 Ben-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0049.html Benjamin's review 18:19:40 Ralph: Benjamin says he requires changes before publication. 18:19:47 Topic: 3.4 XSCH 18:19:51 ACTION: Benjamin review WordNet editor's draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] 18:19:51 DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0049.html 18:20:05 to be clear, I don't agree with struture of draft 18:20:06 Ralph: task force closed and note published. 18:20:22 Topic: 3.5 VM 18:20:33 ACTION: Ralph to publish http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/XSCH/xsch-sw-20060127/ as a Working Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action10] DONE 18:20:42 Ralph: anybody from VM? No. 18:20:44 ACTION: Tom find a place for the footnote on "simplest" recipe [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/20-swbp-minutes.html#action16] [DONE] 18:20:44 DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0038.html 18:21:08 Cookbook piblished: 18:21:08 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0044.html 18:21:28 Topic: 3.6 HTML 18:21:33 RDF/A Primer piblished: 18:21:33 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0043.html 18:21:58 Ralph: noone to talk about it. 18:22:16 Ralph: about VM will have only one more meeting. 18:22:42 ... meeting next week will be the last one. 18:23:06 ... HTML TF plans to continue meeting weekly. 18:23:49 ... one of issues: sub set of RDF/A to fit in HTML 1.1? 18:24:39 ... one pb: the href attribute to be used on any element. 18:25:14 Topic: 3.7 ADTF 18:25:15 & questions? comments? No. 18:25:31 Topic: 3.8 RDFTM 18:25:32 Ralph: noone for ADTF 18:25:56 Steven: new editors' draft on guidelines 18:26:07 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0061.html RDFTM Guidelines draft available for review [Steve] 18:26:12 RDFTM Guidelines draft: http://www.ontopia.net/work/guidelines.html 18:26:23 ... discussed the comment on previous version and prepared a new version 18:26:37 ... calling for reviewers. 18:26:54 I'll work with Bob Colomb to respond to this version -- yes. 18:27:59 ... Elisa and Fabien already volunteered, anyone else. 18:28:01 & the PDF is the best version to use. 18:28:03 & Elisa and Fabien still agree 18:28:45 Ralph: I might do it but not as a formal reviewer. 18:29:12 zakim, unmute me 18:29:12 Elisa_Kendall should no longer be muted 18:29:13 Steven: want to adress the second round of reviews before the end of the WG 18:29:39 Ralph: is it ok to do it rapidly for you? 18:29:48 Elisa I will see with Bob. 18:30:26 zakim, mute me 18:30:26 Elisa_Kendall should now be muted 18:30:29 Ralph: thank Bob for being a reviewer. 18:31:06 Topic: 3.10 SE 18:31:10 ACTION: Ralph to publish RDF/A document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/06-swbp-minutes.html#action23] [DONE] 18:31:10 DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0037.html 18:31:22 Ralph: any representative? no. 18:31:48 I'd juste like to insist once again for the Tutorials page 18:31:53 please assess quality at http://www.akengro.t1hosting.co.uk/w3ctut/ 18:32:16 so far no answers 18:32:35 zakim, unmute me 18:32:35 Raphael should no longer be muted 18:32:36 Topic: 3.11 MM 18:33:00 ACTION: Raphael add NASA attribution text to the Image Annotation editor's draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action15] [DONE] 18:33:09 ACTION: Raphael confirm that the license message from NASA has been sent to the public WG list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action14] both [DONE] 18:33:09 DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0028.html 18:33:16 Raphaem: all the actions of the last telecon are done 18:33:21 ACTION: Ralph work with Raphael to publish http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html as a Working Draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action16] [PENDING] 18:33:35 S/Raphaem/Raphael 18:34:33 ... pending action to publish the doc 18:34:51 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0057.html [ALL] MMTF Work plan [Jacco] 18:34:56 ... Jako sent the agenda until the end of WG 18:35:08 ... goal is to setup the MM XG 18:35:14 zakim, unmute me 18:35:16 Jacco was not muted, Jacco 18:35:21 zakim, mute me 18:35:21 Jacco was already muted, Jacco 18:35:28 S/jako/jacco 18:35:54 Ralph: good progress of MM. 18:36:10 zakim, mute me 18:36:10 FabGandon should now be muted 18:36:18 zakim, unmute me 18:36:18 Jacco should no longer be muted 18:36:31 zakim, mute me 18:36:31 Jacco should now be muted 18:36:44 zakim, unmute me 18:36:44 Jacco should no longer be muted 18:36:45 Ralph: end of agenda. 18:36:57 ... anything else. 18:37:05 Topic: te me 18:37:05 [13:36] Jacco shou 18:37:07 (can't hear Jacco) 18:37:09 te me 18:37:09 [13:36] Jacco shou 18:37:16 Topic: 3.9 Tutorial Page 18:37:23 bad echo 18:37:25 see above 18:37:34 Christo has joined #swbp 18:37:40 just got Alistair who voted 18:37:49 hello 18:38:11 benjamin: please assess quality at http://www.akengro.t1hosting.co.uk/w3ctut/ 18:38:15 elisa, you there? 18:38:27 hi Chris 18:38:58 Ralph: no answers to http://www.akengro.t1hosting.co.uk/w3ctut/ 18:39:13 ... this is part of the output of th WG 18:39:15 (I make a personal to-do to look at Benjamin's page) 18:39:22 thanks all 18:39:24 u need me on this call? 18:39:30 ... AOB? 18:39:37 guess not, ChrisW 18:40:10 ... new draft of the activity proposal for next meeting probably. 18:40:18 ok, elisa I'm in my office if you want to call 18:40:23 ... we can still send comments. 18:40:31 thanks -- will do 18:40:34 bye & thanks all! 18:40:34 -Evan_Wallace 18:40:40 -SteveP 18:40:41 -Raphael 18:40:43 -DBooth 18:40:44 -Elisa_Kendall 18:40:44 -Ralph 18:40:46 bye all 18:40:46 -Jacco 18:40:51 [adjourned] 18:40:57 Ralph has left #swbp 18:41:03 -FabGandon 18:41:08 -Chris 18:41:32 -[IVML] 18:41:34 SW_BPD()1:00PM has ended 18:41:35 Attendees were DBooth, Evan_Wallace, Ralph, Chris, Steve, FabGandon, Raphael, Elisa_Kendall, Jacco, SteveP, GiorgosStamou 18:42:23 rrsagent, please draft minutes 18:42:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-minutes.html RalphS 18:48:11 danbri has joined #swbp 18:50:03 hey, DanBri! 18:50:20 Steve Pepper was wondering if you would be willing to review the new editor's draft from RDFTM TF 18:50:49 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Mar/0061.html RDFTM Guidelines draft available for review [Steve 2006-03-20] 18:51:02 there's both a .html and .pdf version of the document 18:51:14 Hi there. I saw Steve's message. When are reviews needed by? 18:51:30 before the WG closes :) 18:51:55 ideally by the next WG telecon (3 April) 18:52:10 but if you can do it before 17 April that'd be grand 18:55:26 danbri_ has joined #swbp 18:56:18 I'm in Cuba from April 2, ... I'll do my best, but have very limited time before then, and likely v poor connectivity after. I'd advice you to seek other reviewer(s) too... 18:56:30 last line: '...be grand' 18:57:02 thanks. we do have other reviewers but Steve noted in particular having more RDF eyes on it would be beneficial 19:54:26 rrsagent, bye 19:54:26 I see 15 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-actions.rdf : 19:54:26 ACTION: David and Guus prepare a list of expected outcomes of SWBP for 20 March telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action17] [1] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-09-01 19:54:26 ACTION: Guus check with Elisa and Deb on which remaining OEP notes are feasible to complete by 1 May [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] [2] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-12-12 19:54:26 ACTION: Guus remind Giorgos, Fabien, and Phil that their review of Semantic Interoperability editor's draft should now commence [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action03] [DONE] [3] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-12-21 19:54:26 ACTION: Elisa/Chris to work with Ralph to make part-whole doc ready for publication (Elisa took over this action from Chris and Alan) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action11] [PENDING] [4] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-12-45-1 19:54:26 ACTION: Guus to review OWL Time note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING] [5] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-13-03 19:54:26 ACTION: Raphael Georgios S, Fabien, Phil to review Semantic Integration note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING] [6] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-13-22 19:54:26 ACTION: RalphS will make a publication request for the SE Primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action24] [DONE] [7] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-13-37 19:54:26 ACTION: Ralph to find out who were previous reviewers of part-whole doc and see if they will re-review [8] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-15-25 19:54:26 ACTION: Benjamin review WordNet editor's draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] [9] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-19-51 19:54:26 ACTION: Ralph to publish http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/XSCH/xsch-sw-20060127/ as a Working Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action10] DONE [10] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-20-33 19:54:26 ACTION: Tom find a place for the footnote on "simplest" recipe [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/20-swbp-minutes.html#action16] [DONE] [11] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-20-44 19:54:26 ACTION: Ralph to publish RDF/A document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/06-swbp-minutes.html#action23] [DONE] [12] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-31-10 19:54:26 ACTION: Raphael add NASA attribution text to the Image Annotation editor's draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action15] [DONE] [13] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-33-00 19:54:26 ACTION: Raphael confirm that the license message from NASA has been sent to the public WG list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action14] both [DONE] [14] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-33-09 19:54:26 ACTION: Ralph work with Raphael to publish http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html as a Working Draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/06-swbp-minutes.html#action16] [PENDING] [15] 19:54:26 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/03/20-swbp-irc#T18-33-21 19:54:30 zakim, bye 19:54:30 Zakim has left #swbp