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Comment LC-1723

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Commenter: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeW3C mobileOK Basic Tests 1.0 /**/ code { font-... W3C mobileOK Basic Tests 1.0 W3C Working Draft 25 May 2007 Abstract Status of this Document Table of Contents Appendices 1 Introduction 1.1 Levels of mobileOK 1.1.1 mobileOK Basic 1.1.2 mobileOK Pro 1.1.3 Out of Scope 1.1.4 Beyond mobileOK 1.2 Applicability 1.3 Claiming mobileOK conformance 2 Conformance 2.1 Validity of the Tests 2.2 Testing Outcomes 2.3 Conduct of Tests 2.3.1 Order of Tests 2.3.2 HTTP Request 2.3.3 HTTP Response 2.3.4 Meta http-equiv Elements 2.3.5 CSS Style 2.3.6 Included Resources 2.3.7 Included Style Sheet Resources 2.3.8 Visible Linked Resources 2.3.9 Validity 2.3.10 White Space 3 mobileOK Basic Tests 3.1 AUTO_REFRESH (partial) and REDIRECTION 3.2 CACHING 3.3 CHARACTER_ENCODING_SUPPORT and CHARACTER_ENCODING_USE 3.4 CONTENT_FORMAT_SUPPORT and VALID_MARKUP 3.5 DEFAULT_INPUT_MODE 3.6 EXTERNAL_RESOURCES 3.7 GRAPHICS_FOR_SPACING 3.8 IMAGE_MAPS 3.9 IMAGES_RESIZING and IMAGES_SPECIFY_SIZE 3.10 LINK_TARGET_FORMAT 3.11 MEASURES 3.12 MINIMIZE 3.13 NO_FRAMES 3.14 NON-TEXT_ALTERNATIVES (partial) 3.15 OBJECTS_OR_SCRIPT (partial) 3.16 PAGE_SIZE_LIMIT 3.17 PAGE_TITLE (partial) 3.18 POP_UPS 3.19 PROVIDE_DEFAULTS (partial) 3.20 STYLE_SHEETS_SUPPORT (partial) 3.21 STYLE_SHEETS_USE 3.22 TABLES_ALTERNATIVES 3.23 TABLES_LAYOUT (partial) 3.24 TABLES_NESTED A Acknowledgements(Non-Normative) B References(Non-Normative) BestPractices CSS GIF JPEG POWDER RFC2617 Techniques UTF-8 utf8_perl WCAG XHTMLBasic11 XHTMLModularization XML10 XML11 C Relationship between Best Practices and mobileOK Tests(Non-Normative)
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Comment:

> One sub-point I'd like to make is that it's not wrong for the user
> agent to say nothing about what it accepts. It's also not wrong to
> list everything it accepts every time, according to HTTP. If a request
> for a CSS file retrieves a text/html document, well, sounds like the
> site is quite broken. This is not a user agent problem.

I think I interpret this rather different from you. That is, the user
agent indicates which types it supports for a particular request. So if it
says text/html when it fetches a style sheet it indicates it can process
text/html as a style sheet for the current page. Or if it fetches an image
that it can show text/html resources as images.

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WG Notes: 2007-10-31: IRC conversation with Anne - <anne> the resolution seems silly, but I don't care

Resolution: We don't agree that the HTTP RFC requires this interpretation. We believe that if a user agent includes an accept header that specifies text/css in a request, that is an indication not that text/css is an acceptable response for an image but that it can process text/css in some circumstances. In general the User Agent does not know what type of resource to anticipate when it makes a request. It is a special case when it does, as a result in this case of making a retrieval linked to a specific element in a resource already retrieved.

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