IRC log of MMTF on 2006-02-22

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16:31:30 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc
16:31:39 [Zakim]
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16:35:36 [raphael]
zakim, this MMTF will be Multimedia Task Force
16:35:36 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'this MMTF will be Multimedia Task Force', raphael
16:36:06 [raphael]
zakim, what conferences
16:36:06 [Zakim]
raphael, you need to end that query with '?'
16:36:10 [raphael]
zakim, what conferences ?
16:36:10 [Zakim]
I see MM_MMI(dialog)11:00AM, Team_(wai)16:00Z, SW_Plan()11:00AM, XML_Core()11:00AM, WS_XMLP()11:30AM active
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also scheduled at this time are SW_PAW(CWM)11:00AM, P3P_SpecWG()11:00AM
16:36:40 [raphael]
zakim, this MM_MMI(dialog) will be Multimedia Task Force
16:36:40 [Zakim]
I don't understand you, raphael
16:38:39 [raphael]
zakim, move MM_MMI to here
16:38:39 [Zakim]
ok, raphael; that matches MM_MMI(dialog)11:00AM
16:39:43 [raphael]
zakim, this MMTF will be MM_MMI
16:39:43 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'this MMTF will be MM_MMI', raphael
16:39:54 [raphael]
zakim, this MM_MMI will be MMTF
16:39:54 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'this MM_MMI will be MMTF', raphael
16:40:18 [raphael]
zakim, list attendees
16:40:18 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been Paolo_Baggia, Debbie_Dahl, Dave, Michael_Johnston
16:41:42 [raphael]
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16:41:59 [jrvosse]
\excuse zakim
16:42:51 [jrvosse]
zakim, excuse us
16:42:51 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were Paolo_Baggia, Debbie_Dahl, Dave, Michael_Johnston
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16:43:07 [jrvosse]
zakim, list attendees
16:43:07 [Zakim]
sorry, jrvosse, I don't know what conference this is
16:43:22 [jrvosse]
zakim, what conferences ?
16:43:22 [Zakim]
I see MM_MMI(dialog)11:00AM, Team_(wai)16:00Z, SW_Plan()11:00AM, XML_Core()11:00AM, WS_XMLP()11:30AM active
16:43:25 [Zakim]
also scheduled at this time are SW_PAW(CWM)11:00AM, P3P_SpecWG()11:00AM
16:44:00 [jrvosse]
jrvosse has changed the topic to: SWBPD/MMTF
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rssagent, make logs public
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rrsagent, make logs public
16:45:28 [chalaschek]
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16:45:42 [chalaschek]
hi guys
16:50:34 [raphael]
hi Chris
16:51:20 [chalaschek]
how are things?
16:58:09 [raphael]
fine here, very busy :-)
16:58:34 [raphael]
i'm on the phone
16:58:51 [raphael]
zakim, who is on the phone
16:58:51 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is on the phone', raphael
16:59:09 [raphael]
zakim, who's on the call
16:59:09 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who's on the call', raphael
16:59:13 [raphael]
zakim, who's on the call?
16:59:13 [Zakim]
sorry, raphael, I don't know what conference this is
16:59:14 [Zakim]
On IRC I see chalaschek, raphael, Zakim, RRSAgent, jrvosse
17:00:17 [raphael]
zakim, what conference is this ?
17:00:17 [Zakim]
no conference has been selected, raphael
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17:00:45 [raphael]
zakim, please list conferences
17:00:45 [Zakim]
I see SW_BPD(MMTF)12:00PM, MM_MMI(dialog)11:00AM, SW_Plan()11:00AM, WS_XMLP()11:30AM active
17:00:47 [Zakim]
also scheduled at this time are SW_PAW(CWM)11:00AM, PP_PSIG()12:00PM, WAI_PF()12:00PM, XML_QueryWG()12:00PM
17:01:21 [raphael]
zakim, move SW_BPD(MMTF) here
17:01:21 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'move SW_BPD(MMTF) here', raphael
17:01:36 [raphael]
zakim, move SW_BPD(MMTF) to here
17:01:36 [Zakim]
ok, raphael; that matches SW_BPD(MMTF)12:00PM
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+JeffP
17:01:45 [raphael]
zakim, who's on the call?
17:01:45 [Zakim]
On the phone I see [CWI], [UMD], JeffP
17:01:54 [raphael]
zakim [cwi] is raphael
17:02:00 [raphael]
zakim, [cwi] is raphael
17:02:00 [Zakim]
+raphael; got it
17:02:23 [chalaschek]
zakim, [UMD] is chalaschek
17:02:23 [Zakim]
+chalaschek; got it
17:02:26 [raphael]
zakim, [UMD] is chalaschek
17:02:26 [Zakim]
+[IVML]
17:02:27 [Zakim]
sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '[UMD]'
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zakim, [IVML] is GiorgosStamou
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+GiorgosStamou; got it
17:04:57 [jrvosse]
sorry guys, I'm going home. Have a good conference!
17:05:34 [raphael]
zakim scribe is JeffP
17:05:37 [raphael]
zakim, scribe is JeffP
17:05:37 [Zakim]
sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named 'scribe'
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scribe
17:08:18 [raphael]
agenda: 1. Admin
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PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 8 Feb 2006 telecon:
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agreed
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PROPOSED next meeting 8 March 2006, 08:00am-09:00am EST
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q+
17:09:32 [vasilis]
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+GiorgosStoilos
17:11:19 [JeffP]
raphael, we need another vote from the WG
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GStamou, not sure about that
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[about the first draft]
17:12:11 [raphael]
ACTION Jacco mail Chris Catton on use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action09]
17:12:39 [raphael]
ACTION, Jacco mail Chris Catton on use case pending
17:13:28 [raphael]
ACTION Jacco mail Chris Catton on use case
17:14:23 [Zakim]
+??P10
17:15:11 [raphael]
zakim, ??P10 is MikeUschold
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+MikeUschold; got it
17:15:21 [JeffP]
GStamou, Jacco will cover a new scientific use case
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\msg hi
17:18:38 [JeffP]
ACTION: Jeff & Chris to read Vassilis document and select the standards NOT to be included. Done
17:19:34 [raphael]
ACTION: Jacco mail Chris Catton on use case pending
17:20:46 [raphael]
agenda: 3. 2nd deliverable
17:22:09 [JeffP]
ACTION: Raphael to change section 4 Tools title. Done
17:22:30 [JeffP]
ACTION: Raphael to remove media prod use case. Done
17:22:56 [JeffP]
ACTION: Raphael to work on the IPTC use case. Pending
17:23:20 [JeffP]
CTION: Raphael to work with use case editors to do second harmonization step use cases and describe motivation and requirements better. Done
17:23:38 [raphael]
ACTION: Raphael to work with use case editors to do second harmonization step use cases and describe motivation and requirements better. Done
17:24:59 [JeffP]
RRSAgent, drop action 5
17:25:23 [JeffP]
ACTION: Raphael to work on the IPTC use case. Pending
17:25:31 [JeffP]
RRSAgent, drop action 6
17:25:46 [JeffP]
ACTION: Raphael to work with use case editors to do second harmonization step use cases and describe motivation and requirements better. Pending
17:28:13 [JeffP]
raphael, suggest intersection set + XMP and CIDOC-CRM
17:28:24 [JeffP]
GStamou, agree
17:28:58 [raphael]
add also WAI WCAG 2.0 and CC/PP
17:29:24 [JeffP]
ACTION: Raphael to send comments on VDO. Done
17:29:25 [raphael]
8 standards covered by the 2nd delierable
17:29:56 [JeffP]
RRSAgent, drop action 9
17:30:04 [JeffP]
ACTION: Raphael to send comments on VDO. Pending
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IMPORTANT: Scheduling of the Deliverable
17:34:40 [JeffP]
Action: Raphael to provide the Section 2 of the second deliverable
17:36:35 [raphael]
RSSAgent, drop action 11
17:36:44 [raphael]
jeff, remove me this action
17:36:50 [raphael]
i don't say I make the section 2
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scribe
17:37:31 [JeffP]
action: Vasilis to fill the rest of the Section 2 before next telecon
17:37:38 [raphael]
RSSAgent, drop action 11
17:42:24 [JeffP]
RSSAgent, drop action 11
17:43:17 [JeffP]
rrsagent, what action items?
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Jeff & Chris to read Vassilis document and select the standards NOT to be included. Done [1]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-18-38
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Jacco mail Chris Catton on use case pending [2]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-19-34
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Raphael to change section 4 Tools title. Done [3]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-22-09
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Raphael to remove media prod use case. Done [4]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-22-30
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Raphael to work on the IPTC use case. Pending [7]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-25-23
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Raphael to work with use case editors to do second harmonization step use cases and describe motivation and requirements better. Pending [8]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-25-46
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Raphael to send comments on VDO. Pending [10]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-30-04
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Raphael to provide the Section 2 of the second deliverable [11]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-34-40
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Vasilis to fill the rest of the Section 2 before next telecon [12]
17:43:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-irc#T17-37-31
17:44:04 [JeffP]
RRAgent, drop action 11
17:44:22 [raphael]
RRSAgent, drop action 11
17:44:49 [raphael]
ACTION: raphael to provide introductory paragraph of section 3
17:45:11 [raphael]
Mike: give example of syntactic interoperability
17:45:50 [raphael]
... justify the added-value of the interoperability
17:46:48 [raphael]
... why it is important to have this syntax in RDF ?
17:47:36 [raphael]
Dear all
17:47:36 [raphael]
17:47:36 [raphael]
We have scheduled the next MM TF teleconference for Wednesday, 22 February
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17:47:36 [raphael]
12:00am-13:00am EST
17:47:37 [raphael]
17:47:39 [raphael]
0900 (West US)
17:47:41 [raphael]
1200 (East US)
17:47:43 [raphael]
1700 (London)
17:47:45 [raphael]
1800 (Amsterdam),
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1900 (Athens)
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17:47:51 [raphael]
17:47:53 [raphael]
Duration: 60 min
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17:47:57 [raphael]
Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 6683 ("MMTF")
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irc:irc.w3.org (port 6665), #MMTF
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17:48:03 [raphael]
12 participants
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17:48:07 [raphael]
17:48:09 [raphael]
Chair: Giorgos Stamou / Jacco van Ossenbruggen
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Scribe: tbd (pls volunteer)
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17:48:15 [raphael]
Please note that MM TF telecons are for attendance by members only.
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1. ADMIN (5 min)
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17:48:25 [raphael]
Roll call
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Regrets:
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17:48:31 [raphael]
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 8 Feb 2006 telecon:
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http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html
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17:48:37 [raphael]
PROPOSED next meeting 8 March 2006, 08:00am-09:00am EST
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17:48:41 [raphael]
Agenda amendments
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17:48:45 [raphael]
17:48:47 [raphael]
2. FIRST DELIVERABLE (10 min)
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html
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17:48:55 [raphael]
ACTIONS:
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17:48:59 [raphael]
[NEW] ACTION: Jacco mail Chris Catton on use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action09]
17:49:02 [raphael]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to change section 4 Tools title [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action07]
17:49:05 [raphael]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to remove media prod. use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action11]
17:49:08 [raphael]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to work on the IPTC use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action10]
17:49:11 [raphael]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to work with use case editors to do second harmonization step use cases and describe motivation and requirements better [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action08]
17:49:14 [raphael]
[PENDING] ACTION: Chris to continue EXIF work in direction suggested by Mike Uschold [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action14]
17:49:15 [JeffP]
Action: GStamou and Raphael to align the two deliverables
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17:49:19 [raphael]
17:49:21 [raphael]
OTHER ISSUES:
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17:49:25 [raphael]
The new scientific use case
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17:49:29 [raphael]
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2. SECOND DELIVERABLE (25 min)
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/interop.html
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17:49:39 [raphael]
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ACTIONS:
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17:49:45 [raphael]
[NEW] ACTION: Jeff & Chris to read Vassilis document and select the standards NOT to be included [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action12]
17:49:48 [raphael]
[NEW] ACTION: Raphael to send comments on VDO [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action21]
17:49:51 [raphael]
[PENDING] ACTION: Vassilis to put the final list of standards in the second section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action20]
17:49:54 [raphael]
[NEW] ACTION: Vassilis to make synthesis so we can vote in next meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action13]
17:49:58 [raphael]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jacco to work on the VRA stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/08-mmtf-minutes.html#action22]
17:50:00 [raphael]
sorry, I scrapped the notes, I will cleanthem
17:54:30 [Zakim]
-MikeUschold
17:54:31 [raphael]
ACTION: Giorgos fill the section 4 (interoperability MPEG-7 - OWL, semantic issues)
18:13:05 [JeffP]
ACTION: Vassilis and Giorgos to add mm analysis requirements. Done
18:13:18 [JeffP]
ACTION: Giorgos make reqs sythesis. Pending
18:13:30 [JeffP]
ACTION: Giorgos to submit submission to aceMedia. Pending
18:24:11 [Zakim]
-chalaschek
18:26:09 [raphael]
rrsagent, please draft minutes
18:26:09 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-minutes.html raphael
18:26:29 [raphael]
rrsagent, please generate minutes
18:26:29 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/22-MMTF-minutes.html raphael
18:27:56 [Zakim]
-JeffP
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-GiorgosStoilos
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-raphael
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-GiorgosStamou
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SW_BPD(MMTF)12:00PM has ended
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Attendees were JeffP, raphael, chalaschek, GiorgosStamou, GiorgosStoilos, MikeUschold
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