IRC log of rif on 2006-02-21

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15:56:27 [RRSAgent]: RRSAgent has joined #rif
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15:56:39 [FrankMcCabe]: zakim, this is rif
15:56:39 [Zakim]: ok, FrankMcCabe; that matches SW_RIF()11:00AM
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15:58:05 [Zakim]: +[Fujitsu]
15:58:07 [Zakim]: +Mala_Mehrotra
15:58:09 [Zakim]: +??P13
15:58:21 [csma]: zakim, ??P13 is me
15:58:21 [Zakim]: +csma; got it
15:58:30 [Zakim]: +JacekK
15:58:32 [FrankMcCabe]: zakim, fujitsu is me
15:58:32 [Zakim]: +FrankMcCabe; got it
15:58:34 [Zakim]: +Leora_Morgenstern
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15:58:53 [LeoraMorgenstern]: zakim, mute me
15:58:53 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
15:59:01 [holger]: zakim, mute me
15:59:02 [Zakim]: holger should now be muted
15:59:05 [Zakim]: +[LMU]
15:59:06 [Zakim]: +josb
15:59:18 [Zakim]: +??P16
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15:59:20 [csma]: zakim, who is on the call?
15:59:20 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), FrankMcCabe, Mala_Mehrotra, csma, holger (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), [LMU], josb, ??P16
15:59:29 [Zakim]: +??P26
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15:59:30 [Zakim]: +Guizhen_Yang (was josb)
15:59:34 [Zakim]: +Donald_Chapin (was ??P26)
15:59:35 [pfps]: zakim, ??p16 is pfps
15:59:35 [Zakim]: +pfps; got it
15:59:42 [Zakim]: +??P17
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15:59:46 [Zakim]: +Philippe_Bonnard (was ??P17)
15:59:47 [Zakim]: +Ugo_Corda
15:59:48 [Guizhen]: zakim, mute me.
15:59:48 [Zakim]: Guizhen_Yang should now be muted
15:59:53 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
16:00:01 [Guizhen]: zakim, who is on the phone?
16:00:01 [StanDevitt]: StanDevitt has joined #rif
16:00:02 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), FrankMcCabe, Mala_Mehrotra, csma, holger (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted), Guizhen_Yang (muted), pfps, Donald_Chapin,
16:00:05 [Mala]: #41#40
16:00:11 [Zakim]: ... Philippe_Bonnard, Ugo_Corda, [IPcaller]
16:00:12 [PhilippeB]: zakim, mute me
16:00:17 [Zakim]: +??P29
16:00:18 [DonaldC]: zakim, mute me
16:00:26 [Zakim]: Philippe_Bonnard should now be muted
16:00:30 [Zakim]: Donald_Chapin should now be muted
16:00:40 [Zakim]: +[NRCC]
16:00:42 [Zakim]: -??P29
16:00:44 [Zakim]: +David_Hirtle
16:00:44 [csma]: zakim, who is on the call?
16:00:54 [Zakim]: +Harold_Boley (was [NRCC])
16:00:56 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), FrankMcCabe, Mala_Mehrotra, csma, holger (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted), Guizhen_Yang (muted), pfps, Donald_Chapin
16:00:59 [Zakim]: ... (muted), Philippe_Bonnard (muted), Ugo_Corda, MarkusK (muted), Harold_Boley, David_Hirtle
16:01:01 [Allen]: Allen has joined #rif
16:01:03 [Zakim]: +Michael_Sintek
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16:01:19 [Zakim]: +??P32
16:01:21 [Zakim]: +??P29
16:01:35 [Zakim]: +Sandro
16:01:38 [Zakim]: + +1.435.125.aabb
16:01:40 [SaidTabet]: zakim, ??P32 is me
16:01:40 [Zakim]: +SaidTabet; got it
16:01:43 [Zakim]: +Darko_Anicic (was +1.435.125.aabb)
16:01:48 [Zakim]: +Allen_Ginsberg
16:01:49 [SaidTabet]: zakim, mute me
16:01:49 [Zakim]: SaidTabet should now be muted
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16:02:03 [Zakim]: +[IBM]
16:02:05 [Allen]: zakim, mute me
16:02:05 [Zakim]: Allen_Ginsberg should now be muted
16:02:09 [ChrisW]: zakim, [ibm] is temporarily me
16:02:09 [Zakim]: +ChrisW; got it
16:02:28 [Zakim]: +??P39
16:02:35 [Darko]: Zakim, mute me
16:02:35 [Zakim]: Darko_Anicic should now be muted
16:02:39 [deepalik]: deepalik has joined #rif
16:02:41 [sandro]: zakim, who is talking?
16:02:51 [Zakim]: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: csma (21%)
16:03:03 [Zakim]: +[IVML]
16:03:06 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
16:03:09 [Zakim]: + +49.651.8.aacc
16:03:18 [johnhall]: johnhall has joined #rif
16:03:18 [Zakim]: +Dave_Reynolds (was ??P39)
16:03:18 [Hassan]: Zakim, ??P29 is Hassan
16:03:19 [Zakim]: +Hassan; got it
16:03:29 [PaulV]: PaulV has joined #rif
16:03:51 [Zakim]: +Igor_Mozetic
16:03:51 [GiorgosStoilos]: zakim, [IVML] is me
16:03:51 [Zakim]: +GiorgosStoilos; got it
16:04:00 [igor]: zakim, mute me
16:04:00 [Zakim]: Igor_Mozetic should now be muted
16:04:04 [Zakim]: +??P45
16:04:26 [GiorgosStoilos]: scribe: GiorgosStoilos
16:04:32 [Uli]: Uli has joined #rif
16:04:34 [Zakim]: +Deepali_Khushraj
16:04:42 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller.a]
16:04:44 [Zakim]: +John_Hall (was [IPcaller.a])
16:04:57 [johnhall]: zakim, mute me
16:04:57 [Zakim]: John_Hall should now be muted
16:04:58 [Jeff_Pan]: Jeff_Pan has joined #rif
16:05:00 [GiorgosStoilos]: minutes of last telecon, axxepted
16:05:02 [PaulaP]: +1
16:05:06 [igor]: +1
16:05:08 [Hassan]: +1
16:05:09 [SaidTabet]: +1
16:05:22 [csma]: Resolved: accept minutes from 14Feb06
16:06:11 [Zakim]: +??P53
16:06:22 [Jeff_Pan]: zakim, ??P53 is me
16:06:22 [Zakim]: +Jeff_Pan; got it
16:06:22 [sandro]: http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html
16:06:42 [csma]: zakim, who is on the call?
16:06:42 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), FrankMcCabe, Mala_Mehrotra, csma, holger (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted), Guizhen_Yang (muted), pfps, Donald_Chapin
16:06:45 [Zakim]: ... (muted), Philippe_Bonnard (muted), Ugo_Corda, MarkusK (muted), Harold_Boley, DavidHirtle (muted), msintek (muted), SaidTabet (muted), Hassan (muted), Sandro, Darko_Anicic
16:06:50 [Zakim]: ... (muted), Allen_Ginsberg (muted), ChrisW, Dave_Reynolds (muted), GiorgosStoilos, [IPcaller], +49.651.8.aacc, Igor_Mozetic (muted), ??P45, Deepali_Khushraj (muted), John_Hall
16:06:52 [Zakim]: ... (muted), Jeff_Pan
16:06:59 [Zakim]: +Gary_Hallmark
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16:07:35 [sandro]: http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html
16:07:54 [Zakim]: +Ed_Barkmeyer
16:08:29 [StanDevitt]: 41#
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16:08:48 [sandro]: zakim, aacc is Stan
16:08:48 [Zakim]: +Stan; got it
16:09:06 [Uli]: am I identified? Uli?
16:09:18 [ChrisW]: zakim, Stan is StanDevitt
16:09:18 [Zakim]: +StanDevitt; got it
16:09:27 [sandro]: Zakim, ??P45 is Uli
16:09:27 [Zakim]: +Uli; got it
16:09:37 [ChrisW]: ack aacc
16:09:41 [DonaldC]: zakim, DonaldC is Donald_Chapin
16:09:41 [Zakim]: +Donald_Chapin; got it
16:10:22 [sandro]: zakim, [IPcaller] is PaulV
16:10:22 [Zakim]: +PaulV; got it
16:10:29 [csma]: zakim, who is on the phone?
16:10:29 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Deborah_Nichols (muted), FrankMcCabe, Mala_Mehrotra, csma, holger (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), PaulaP (muted), Guizhen_Yang (muted), pfps, Donald_Chapin.a
16:10:33 [Zakim]: ... (muted), Philippe_Bonnard (muted), Ugo_Corda, MarkusK (muted), Harold_Boley, DavidHirtle (muted), msintek (muted), SaidTabet (muted), Hassan (muted), Sandro, Darko_Anicic
16:10:38 [Zakim]: ... (muted), Allen_Ginsberg (muted), ChrisW, Dave_Reynolds (muted), GiorgosStoilos, PaulV, StanDevitt, Igor_Mozetic (muted), Uli, Deepali_Khushraj (muted), John_Hall (muted),
16:10:41 [Zakim]: ... Jeff_Pan, Gary_Hallmark, Ed_Barkmeyer (muted)
16:11:23 [GiorgosStoilos]: topic: Liaison
16:11:24 [sandro]: (Attendance Verified)
16:11:44 [DonaldC]: zakim, mute me
16:11:44 [Zakim]: Donald_Chapin.a was already muted, DonaldC
16:12:02 [DonaldC]: zakim, unmute me
16:12:02 [Zakim]: Donald_Chapin.a should no longer be muted
16:12:03 [GiorgosStoilos]: Paul, nothing new
16:12:14 [GiorgosStoilos]: Donald, nothing new on liaison
16:13:00 [DonaldC]: zakim, mute me
16:13:00 [Zakim]: Donald_Chapin.a should now be muted
16:13:01 [GiorgosStoilos]: topic: Use Cases & Requirements
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16:13:09 [sandro]: sandro has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Feb/0182
16:13:12 [Allen]: zakim, unmute me
16:13:12 [Zakim]: Allen_Ginsberg should no longer be muted
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16:13:24 [ChrisW]: [DONE] ACTION: Allen: to compile a list of design goal questions for listing in a section of the UC&R draft.
16:13:41 [GiorgosStoilos]: action: allen: to compile a list of design goal questions for listing in a section of the UC&R draft {DONE}
16:13:55 [Zakim]: +Ora_Lassila
16:14:12 [Zakim]: +Evan_Wallace
16:14:16 [csma]: q?
16:14:24 [GiorgosStoilos]: [DONE] ACTION: Dieter, Jos and Harold: To review the Requirements and comment them
16:14:31 [sandro]: q- aacc
16:14:36 [ChrisW]: [CONTINUED] ACTION: Axel, Dieter, Jos : to review the Requirements (http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Requirements) and comment them.
16:14:42 [sandro]: q- +49.651.8.aacc
16:14:45 [sandro]: q- ??P45
16:14:49 [sandro]: q- [IPcaller]
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16:15:02 [ChrisW]: [DONE] ACTION: Harold : to review the Requirements (http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Requirements) and comment them.
16:15:34 [LeoraMorgenstern]: Can this action be continued?
16:15:45 [LeoraMorgenstern]: zakim, unmute me
16:15:45 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should no longer be muted
16:15:48 [LeoraMorgenstern]: q+
16:16:38 [GiorgosStoilos]: Jeff, nothing done cause I can find the section
16:17:50 [DavidHirtle]: +1 to removing the action
16:18:08 [ChrisW]: [DROPPED] ACTION: Leora and Jeff: to review the detailed scenario
16:18:17 [LeoraMorgenstern]: zakim, mute me
16:18:17 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
16:18:46 [ChrisW]: [CONTINUED] ACTION: Chris Welty will come up with another example narrative for a RichKR use case
16:19:02 [ChrisW]: [CONTINUED] ACTION: csma will incite data access discussion on mailing list.
16:19:28 [ChrisW]: [DROPPED] ACTION: Frank will do the scenarios for information integration with Ed Barkmeyer assisting
16:19:32 [edbark]: +1
16:20:20 [ChrisW]: [DONE] ACTION: Paul Vincent will do the detailed scenario for "Interoperability between rule engines"
16:22:04 [DaveReynolds]: Fair enough!
16:22:12 [LeoraMorgenstern]: +1 with Christian: the suggestions are very helpful!
16:22:13 [GiorgosStoilos]: csma, the discussion in the mailing list worths it despite the heavy load mentioned by Jim
16:22:32 [sandro]: RRSAgent, pointer?
16:22:32 [RRSAgent]: See http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-22-32
16:22:52 [GiorgosStoilos]: csma, the straw poll has been extended till Thursday night
16:23:38 [sandro]: RRSAgent, make minutes
16:23:38 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html sandro
16:23:50 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, what are the actions?
16:23:50 [RRSAgent]: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-actions.rdf :
16:23:50 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: allen: to compile a list of design goal questions for listing in a section of the UC&R draft {DONE} [1]
16:23:50 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-13-41
16:23:52 [LeoraMorgenstern]: zakim, unmute me
16:23:52 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should no longer be muted
16:23:55 [LeoraMorgenstern]: q+
16:24:07 [GiorgosStoilos]: allen, should we revise the document on this point?
16:24:16 [GiorgosStoilos]: s/on/at
16:24:37 [sandro]: (yes please, drafting changes soon)
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16:25:07 [GiorgosStoilos]: leora, should I edit my part on the Decision Support UC
16:25:12 [GiorgosStoilos]: allen, yes
16:25:38 [sandro]: q+
16:26:06 [Zakim]: +Michael_Kifer
16:26:29 [sandro]: q-
16:26:44 [csma]: ack leora
16:27:01 [GiorgosStoilos]: csma, we should edit the document before the F2F
16:27:24 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, drop action 1
16:28:03 [GiorgosStoilos]: csma, can we have a reviesed version before the F2F?
16:28:47 [LeoraMorgenstern]: zakim, mute me
16:28:48 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
16:28:52 [StanDevitt]: Is it possible to have a "frozen" copy referenced by the people still reviewing and separately work on a revision for the F2F?
16:29:01 [sandro]: q+
16:29:04 [GiorgosStoilos]: David, some sections are ok, but it depends on the volunteers
16:29:04 [edbark]: +1 to Stan
16:29:33 [GiorgosStoilos]: David, can spend some time to revise the document
16:31:05 [sandro]: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/ucr/draft-20060215#Information_Integration
16:31:12 [csma]: ack sandro
16:32:19 [GiorgosStoilos]: sandro, allen & david can edit the docuemnt in the wiki
16:33:15 [StanDevitt]: Can you generate a "diff" version?
16:33:35 [ChrisW]: Sandro: the straw poll & review is on "frozen" documents
16:33:50 [DavidHirtle]: yes, Stan, using the wiki pages
16:33:52 [LeoraMorgenstern]: zakim, unmute me
16:33:52 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should no longer be muted
16:34:32 [GiorgosStoilos]: there is a lot of noise
16:34:38 [ChrisW]: zakim, mute Leora_Morgenstern
16:34:38 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
16:34:54 [LeoraMorgenstern]: \me Chris, it's not me making the noise ;)
16:35:10 [GiorgosStoilos]: what was the last action on frank?
16:35:23 [LeoraMorgenstern]: *No, it started when Frank McCabe was unmuted, and it still there, now that I'm muted.
16:35:38 [sandro]: StanDevitt, when I put up the Friday draft, I'll do a nice HTML-diff, which easier to use than the wiki diff. (in the style I used on the charter, like: http://www.w3.org/2005/07/rules/charter2_diff_146_154.html )
16:35:55 [StanDevitt]: Thanks.
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16:40:54 [sandro]: tracker, for people to look at:
16:40:57 [sandro]: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/
16:41:45 [sandro]: see example for another group: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/
16:42:23 [edbark]: q+
16:42:34 [csma]: ack edb
16:42:35 [ChrisW]: q?
16:43:10 [GiorgosStoilos]: ACTION: Ed to synthesize comments on Coverage by Friday and propose ways to answer the comments
16:44:09 [LeoraMorgenstern]: zakim, unmute me
16:44:09 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should no longer be muted
16:44:35 [LeoraMorgenstern]: zakim, mute me
16:44:35 [Zakim]: Leora_Morgenstern should now be muted
16:45:02 [edbark]: zakim, mute me
16:45:02 [Zakim]: Ed_Barkmeyer was already muted, edbark
16:45:03 [SaidTabet]: zakim, unmute me
16:45:03 [Zakim]: SaidTabet should no longer be muted
16:45:14 [SaidTabet]: zakim, mute me
16:45:14 [Zakim]: SaidTabet should now be muted
16:46:04 [Uli]: Uli has joined #rif
16:46:11 [ChrisW]: ACTION: Chris to respond to RichKR comments
16:46:25 [GiorgosStoilos]: csma, we had several comments on merging use cases
16:47:21 [csma]: q?
16:47:58 [ChrisW]: ACTION: Said to rspond to "Third Party" comments
16:48:17 [ChrisW]: ACTION: Leora to respond to "Decision Support" comments
16:48:58 [DavidHirtle]: ACTION: FrankMcCabe to respond to "Information Integration" comments
16:50:46 [Allen]: Allen will take action re "Third Party" comments
16:50:52 [GiorgosStoilos]: csma, presentations for Design Goals in the F2F should be aligned with the section on Design Goals provided be Allen
16:51:09 [DavidHirtle]: ACTION: Allen to respond to "Third Party" comments
16:51:31 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, what are the actions?
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-actions.rdf :
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ed to synthesize comments on Coverage by Friday and propose ways to answer the comments [2]
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-43-10
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Chris to respond to RichKR comments [3]
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-46-11
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Said to rspond to "Third Party" comments [4]
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-47-58
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Leora to respond to "Decision Support" comments [5]
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-48-17
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: FrankMcCabe to respond to "Information Integration" comments [6]
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-48-58
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Allen to respond to "Third Party" comments [7]
16:51:31 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-51-09
16:52:15 [DavidHirtle]: (need to remove 4...)
16:52:17 [ChrisW]: ACTION: Said to respond to Human rules comments
16:52:25 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, drop action 4
16:52:36 [GiorgosStoilos]: paula, I can refine the Requirements doc after the F2F
16:52:41 [ChrisW]: ACTION: Allen to respond to "Third Party" comments
16:53:10 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, drop action 9
16:53:21 [Zakim]: -Philippe_Bonnard
16:53:28 [ChrisW]: action: paula to clarify list of requirements taking comments into account
16:53:55 [GiorgosStoilos]: paula, to present what she did in the F2F?
16:54:19 [Allen]: zakim, mute me
16:54:19 [Zakim]: Allen_Ginsberg should now be muted
16:54:36 [PaulaP]: yes
16:54:51 [GiorgosStoilos]: topic: classification
16:54:54 [ChrisW]: [CONTINUED] ACTION: Chris to start email discussion about what issues are "fuzzy" wrt phase 1 & 2
16:55:34 [GiorgosStoilos]: ChrisW, people should look in the classification list in the WiKi
16:56:01 [Zakim]: -Guizhen_Yang
16:56:11 [DavidHirtle]: ACTION: Paula to respond to "Policy-Based..." comments
16:57:09 [DavidHirtle]: ACTION: PaulV to respond to "Cross-Platform..." comments
16:57:25 [DavidHirtle]: rrsagent, what are the actions?
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-actions.rdf :
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ed to synthesize comments on Coverage by Friday and propose ways to answer the comments [2]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-43-10
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Chris to respond to RichKR comments [3]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-46-11
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Leora to respond to "Decision Support" comments [5]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-48-17
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: FrankMcCabe to respond to "Information Integration" comments [6]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-48-58
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Allen to respond to "Third Party" comments [7]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-51-09
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Said to respond to Human rules comments [8]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-52-17
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: paula to clarify list of requirements taking comments into account [10]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-53-28
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Paula to respond to "Policy-Based..." comments [11]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-56-11
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: PaulV to respond to "Cross-Platform..." comments [12]
16:57:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-57-09
16:57:53 [PaulaP]: 'respond to comments on use cases' means modifying wiki page or writing email?
16:58:23 [GiorgosStoilos]: topic: OWL & RDF COmpatibility
16:58:33 [ChrisW]: [CONTINUED] ACTION: csma: will send an email to make a distinction between OWL and RIF roles
16:58:33 [ChrisW]
16:58:46 [DavidHirtle]: ACTION: Christian to respond to "Publication" comments
16:59:03 [DavidHirtle]: (okay, UCR actions should be caught up now)
17:01:18 [ChrisW]: f2f agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Feb/0171.html
17:01:32 [GiorgosStoilos]: topic: F2F2
17:01:43 [DavidHirtle]: Paula, it means taking into account what comments you can (from emails and the comments box of the poll)
17:02:00 [DavidHirtle]: probably a good idea to send an email out when you've done something
17:02:07 [PaulaP]: ok, thanks
17:02:36 [DavidHirtle]: (at least that's my understanding)
17:03:55 [PaulaP]: I don't think we can coordinate with RuleML
17:03:59 [Zakim]: -PaulV
17:04:04 [PaulaP]: there is not enough time
17:05:46 [GiorgosStoilos]: paula could make a presentation of requirements to open the discussion
17:06:06 [Zakim]: +??P19
17:06:46 [csma]: q?
17:06:47 [ChrisW]: zakim, ??P19 is PaulV
17:06:48 [Zakim]: +PaulV; got it
17:07:01 [csma]: ack hassan
17:07:30 [ChrisW]: hassan you are barely audible
17:07:42 [GiorgosStoilos]: hassan: what is the format of presentations?
17:08:10 [Allen]: Suggestion to design goal presenters: if you have time put a link to your lists in the Design Goal section of UCR doc
17:08:16 [PaulV]: Paul V volunteers with Hassan
17:08:17 [Zakim]: +[IPcaller]
17:08:20 [GiorgosStoilos]: csma, 15 minute presentations
17:08:21 [Zakim]: +John_Hall.a (was [IPcaller])
17:08:48 [PaulaP]: +1 to Allen's comment
17:09:19 [Hassan]: q-
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17:10:47 [GiorgosStoilos]: csma, we have accepted all observes
17:11:03 [GiorgosStoilos]: s/observes/observers
17:11:22 [csma]: q?
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17:12:27 [Darko]: -Darko
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17:12:37 [Allen]: bye
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17:12:57 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, draft minutes
17:12:57 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
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17:14:28 [sandro]: rrsagent, make minutes
17:14:28 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-minutes.html sandro
17:14:49 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, make logs world visible
17:14:49 [RRSAgent]: I'm logging. I don't understand 'make logs world visible', ChrisW. Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:15:23 [Zakim]: -GiorgosStoilos
17:15:25 [Zakim]: -ChrisW
17:15:37 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, make logs world-visible
17:15:37 [csma]: zakim, who is on the call?
17:15:37 [Zakim]: On the phone I see csma, MarkusK (muted), John_Hall (muted), Michael_Kifer
17:15:44 [ChrisW]: rrsagent, leave
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: I see 10 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-actions.rdf :
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ed to synthesize comments on Coverage by Friday and propose ways to answer the comments [2]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-43-10
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Chris to respond to RichKR comments [3]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-46-11
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Leora to respond to "Decision Support" comments [5]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-48-17
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: FrankMcCabe to respond to "Information Integration" comments [6]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-48-58
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Allen to respond to "Third Party" comments [7]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-51-09
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Said to respond to Human rules comments [8]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-52-17
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: paula to clarify list of requirements taking comments into account [10]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-53-28
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Paula to respond to "Policy-Based..." comments [11]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-56-11
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: PaulV to respond to "Cross-Platform..." comments [12]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-57-09
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Christian to respond to "Publication" comments [13]
17:15:44 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-rif-irc#T16-58-46
17:15:50 [Zakim]: -Michael_Kifer
17:15:59 [Zakim]: -csma