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11:03:42 <Andrew> topic: Status of work on to-do list
11:03:45 <Andrew> see: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2005/tools
11:04:11 <Andrew> shadi - see pending
11:04:20 <Andrew> shadi: see pending
11:04:32 <Andrew> shadi: ichecker is no more
11:04:51 <Andrew> shadi: SSb tools are done
11:06:07 <Andrew> steve: webaim are not responding re the WAVE - suggest we just publish
11:08:00 <Andrew> shadi: we should recontact all developers as we launch to check and update anything missing
11:08:26 <Andrew> Shadi: chris pedrick is also out of contact - will use what we know
11:11:19 <Andrew> charlie: cita is also non-responsive - will try phoning
11:11:35 <Andrew> Shadi: w3c will be addedd "real soon now"
11:12:22 <Andrew> shadi: ncam re-assigned to Yehya
11:14:15 <Andrew> steve: several tools were non-responsive
11:14:31 <Andrew> shadi: just do the best you can with an RDF entry for these
11:14:45 <Andrew> shadi: also for 13, 14 & 19
11:15:12 <Andrew> shadi: 20-23 should be given a bit more time
11:17:28 <Andrew> steve: sent a new colour tool from Juicy Studio to the list
11:17:51 <Andrew> Steve: also some tools from RampWeb for S508
11:19:28 <Andrew> Andrew: I contacted "relaxed" and sent an RDF entry
11:20:05 <Andrew> shadi: lets look at "DONE"
11:20:17 <Andrew> shadi: all should now be in the database
11:21:57 <Andrew> Shadi: thanks all for their hard work :)
11:22:15 <Andrew> Shadi: lets look at "ON HOLD"
11:22:40 <Andrew> shadi: many resemble authoring tools and other things rather than evaluation tools
11:23:19 <Andrew> shadi: WAI team is in favour of adding some of them as there is nowhere else to put them
11:23:50 <Andrew> shadi: eg PDF2HTML convertor & PPT publisher
11:24:23 <Andrew> shadi: they may not come up in a search - just the full list
11:24:54 <Andrew> shadi: may have different interfaces later on eg from authoring tools area
11:26:46 <Andrew> shadi: maybe later on we can add new fields/tags to help clasify these better, eg "conversion tools"
11:27:31 <Andrew> shadi: a) add to tools list; b) add new tags; c) provide different interfaces from other parts of WAI site
11:27:54 <Andrew> carlos: disagree - our list should not contain these
11:32:05 <Andrew> charlie: need to clearly differentiate between the eval tools and any transformation tools
11:39:11 <Andrew> Andrew: what about adding a section on the "overview" page before the disclaimer that desbies aother tool sets and links to "repair" tools list and "conversion" tools list
11:40:15 <Andrew> Shadi: will take this back to WAI team for further discusison
11:40:29 <Andrew> Shadi: lets look at "DROP"
11:40:40 <Andrew> shadi: these are candidates to leave out
11:40:55 <Andrew> Shadi: lets look at "NEW"
11:41:13 <Andrew> shadi: feel free to take some of these on
11:41:34 <Andrew> steve: I'll take 2 & 3
11:42:51 <Andrew> charlie: I'll take #1 - MS IE developer toolbar
11:43:16 <Andrew> topic: Discuss implementation issues
11:43:48 <Andrew> shadi: three fields added as commonly supplied by tool developers
11:44:16 <Andrew> shadi: spidering; restricted pages; demo/trial available
11:45:32 <Andrew> shadi: taken this into the database - so please recheck your tools in case they support this
11:45:55 <Andrew> shadi: just a quick check - no need to go back to develoepr at this stage
11:46:39 <Andrew> shadi: the tools list {done} links to the archived RDF entry - should make it easy to check
11:54:16 <Andrew> carlos: "Evaluate multiple pages at the same time" is confusing - need to use the term "crawl and evaluate" and/or "whole site" rather than "multiple pages"
11:55:58 <Andrew> shadi: trying to group a few functionalities together
11:57:12 <Andrew> carlos: need to use then technical term - commonly understood, even if not by newcommers
11:58:07 <Andrew> carlos: also need to clarify "password protected" - some restricted pages are due to proxies, rather than passwords
12:05:26 <Andrew> Carlos: also concerned about the number of minor languages listed
12:05:57 <Andrew> Carlos: also, SQL is not a format per-se
12:07:42 <Andrew> shadi: any more "tool interface" feedback?
12:08:45 <Zakim> -charlie
12:09:14 <Andrew> topic: search funtionality
12:09:35 <Andrew> shadi: resembles filters, rather than search
12:10:11 <Andrew> shadi: the more filters I select, the smaller the list of tools returned
12:13:48 <Andrew> shadi: most members on EO expected that the more filters, the longer the list returned
12:15:21 <Andrew> topic: any other items?
12:17:52 <Andrew> Carlos: "sql" as an export format
12:25:07 <Andrew> carlos: "development environment" should read "platform supported" or similar on the advanced search page
12:26:20 <Andrew> shadi: some tools do support an SQL interface - maybe it needs to be listed elsewhere
12:27:07 <Andrew> zakim, who was on the call?
12:27:07 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Andrew.
12:27:15 <Andrew> zakim, who is on the call?
12:27:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve, Andrew, Shadi, Thomas
12:27:36 <Zakim> -Shadi
12:27:37 <Zakim> -Steve
12:27:38 <Zakim> -Thomas
12:27:39 <Andrew> present: shadi, andrew, carlos, steve, charlie
12:27:42 <shadi> meeting: ET TF
12:27:49 <shadi> scribe: Andrew
12:27:53 <shadi> scribenick: Andrew
12:27:54 <Zakim> -Andrew
12:27:56 <Zakim> Team_(er)11:00Z has ended
12:27:57 <Zakim> Attendees were Andrew, Shadi, Steve, Thomas, charlie
12:28:12 <shadi> chair: Shadi
12:28:18 <shadi> zakim, bye
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12:28:26 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
12:28:33 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
12:28:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-er-minutes.html shadi
12:28:39 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
12:28:44 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
12:28:44 <RRSAgent> I see no action items