<LeeF> oh yeah

<LeeF> :)

Convene ... http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/weekly-agenda

<scribe> Scribe: AndyS

<DanC> minutes 14 Feb

<ericP> 2nd

<DanC> RESOLVED: to approve minutes 14 Feb

Next meeting: F2F (W3C All Groups Meeting, Cannes, 2/3 March)

upcoming ftf 2-3Mar

Eric: Agenda in-progress
... 24 people registeres inc observers (14 observers)

EricP: More of a workshop style for part of the meeting

DanC: noted [test-dodo] items

<DanC> SwigAtTp2006

<DanC> (afternoon of which day?)

<kendallclark> hmm, I believe my availability to dial-in has been reduced to something approximating zero.

Next steps discussion: afternoon of Thursday

<kendallclark> not sure if i need to send regrets for dialing in?

or maybe Friday (SWBPD WG meeting Friday - "fairly informal")

<DanC> no more than you have

<kendallclark> 'k

KC sends regrets for F2F

PatH sends regrets for F2F

Toward updated QL WD

DanC: Please publish message sent

<kendallclark> Alabama. :>

<libby> zakim mute me

DanC: may tweak status section
... should appear any time now

EricP did "EricP to fix /0 stuff in rq23"

Commets due 3 weeks yesterday (13 March)

comments related to rdfSemantics, owlDisjunction

Continue action Enrico

<scribe> ACTION: Enrico to explain definitions in reply to LeeF's questions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action01]

<scribe> ACTION: patH to respond to PFPS comments (pending LC publication) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action02]

<LeeF> Is a *very* minor editorial comment on the current QL draft in order?

No :-) Oh all right

Toward CR

<scribe> ACTION: KC to update protocol references to [SRD] and WSDL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: KendallC to edit proto-wd w.r.t. decision: in case of syntax error [including extension], must return malformed query or query request refused [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action04]

WSD WG comments

<DanC> RE: Belated comments on SPARQL Protocol for RDF 25 January 2006 LC WD

<ericP> hugo's WSDL converter does not do 2.0 to 1,1

<LeeF> Aye

DanC: request someone to feed our WSDL to feed woden

<LeeF> Sure

<DanC> ACTION: Leef to try SPARQL WSDL files with Woden validator, report results. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action05]

<DanC> LeeF, be sure to include CVS version info from our WSDL files when you report results.

<LeeF> I'll wait until it's checked in, and once checked in I'll also update the WSDL 1.1 stuff

http://incubator.apache.org/woden/userguide.html

<DanC> ACTION: KC to update SPARQL WSDL query operation to change name to query-request (though it may change back) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action06]

<DanC> # ACTION: DanC to respond to major technical: underspecified errors [CONTINUES]

<DanC> ACTION: DanC to respond to major technical: underspecified errors [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to respond to major technical: underspecified errors [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: -8 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action09]

<DanC> CR request, in progress

<LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/crq349 search for @@hmm

<LeeF> I can also imagine it going to a LC and attracting a lot of comments (of the form Kendall just mentioned) :-)

Can accept and postpone straight away - input to SPARQL-2

<EliasT> SPARQL Protocol And RDF Query Language

DanC: currently minded not to take requirments to rec.

<DanC> ACTION: DanC to noodle on SOAP exit criteria [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action10]

DanC: I do not expect to chair through the whole of the CR phase

<DanC> REQUEST FOR TESTCASE: something that uses SPARQL media type in POST

<DanC> never mind. it uses x-www-urlencoded

<kendallclark> i've heard that from people at Nokia and at my own lab, actually. :>

<DanC> s/satsifaction of the community./satisfaction of a critical mass of the community/

<kendallclark> erp, i'm actually convinced by those objections now. :<

<ericP> kendallclark, yeah, you noted an interest in 4-ary querying in your SPARQLNextSteps response

<kendallclark> yep, that's exactly what I'm convinced by now.

<kendallclark> FROM/FROM NAMED seem a far too coarse way of doing that when we have a formalism for doing it more finely grained that does *not* involve web-arch issues.

(review of CR draft)

<ericP> i note that this came *from* timbl's comment

<DanC> Hayes: "defns are unnecessarily complicated"

Toward CR

<scribe> ACTION: JosD to make test case from [19]Sergio's basic query patterns examples. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action11]

<ericP> http://www.w3.org/mid/20060118004002.GC12293@w3.org

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to fix test schema to match manifest with negative tests [recorded in [21]09/27-dawg-minutes.html#action16] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action12]

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to follow up re optional test based on op:dateTime triple [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action13]

<scribe> ACTION: DaveB add to test suite the temperature case from comment on truth tables in [22]commentor's message [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html#action14]

upcoming ftf 2-3Mar

Friday PM : test suite maintenance

<EliasT> I'd like to join that, hopefully we can have one schema for both language and protocol.

<EliasT> I will be there.

<LeeF> Libby is on the queue

<LeeF> No?

<Zakim> libby, you wanted to ask if it makes sense to join with swig for some dawgshows

<LeeF> Oh

<LeeF> :)

<LeeF> Nevermind

<libby> sorry I'm muted!

<DanC> ADJOURN.

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/0409.html
Got date from IRC log name: 21 Feb 2006
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-dawg-minutes.html
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