14:30:02 RRSAgent has joined #dawg 14:30:02 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-dawg-irc 14:30:29 Chair: DanC 14:30:30 SW_DAWG()9:30AM has now started 14:30:32 agenda + DAWG records and semweb best practices 14:30:33 Scribe: LeeF 14:30:37 +??P2 14:30:50 Regrets: EricP, KendallC, libby, SteveH 14:30:55 zakim, ??P2 is me 14:30:55 +AndyS; got it 14:30:59 Meeting: DAWG Weekly 14:31:23 +DanC 14:31:32 +[IBMCambridge] 14:31:36 +[IPcaller] 14:31:38 Zakim, IBMCambridge is me 14:31:38 +LeeF; got it 14:31:47 patH has joined #dawg 14:31:48 Zakim, [IPcaller] is me 14:31:48 +jeen; got it 14:31:52 +PatH 14:32:05 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006JanMar/att-0347/dawg-minutes-2006-01-31.html minutes 31 Jan 14:32:59 ACTION: KC to work on edited changelog since 2005-09-14 LCWD 14:33:03 -- continues 14:33:09 ACTION: KC to update protocol references to [SRD] and WSDL 14:33:12 -- continues 14:33:35 agenda + SPARQL format spec announcement (ACTION: EricP to arrange for announcement of results format spec) 14:34:05 agenda + protocol, syntax extensibility (ACTION: EricP to provide a "SPARQL++" example query in the accessingCollections neighborhood ACTION: KC to add an example of a "SPARQL++" query in the spec, and think about a separate interface ) 14:34:39 agenda + rdfSemantics comments (ACTION: DanC to complete response to Barstow ACTION: patH to respond to PFPS comments ACTION: AndyS to draft reply to Wood ) 14:35:14 agenda + Toward updated QL WD ACTION: AndyS to propose a publication plan 14:36:00 let's continue testing actions on JosD, AndyS, EricP, DanC, and DaveB without discussion (see bottom of http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/weekly-agenda ) 14:36:12 Zakim, who's on the phone? 14:36:12 On the phone I see AndyS, DanC, LeeF, jeen, PatH 14:36:16 Zakim, agenda? 14:36:16 I see 6 items remaining on the agenda: 14:36:17 1. Convene (or cancel), take roll, review records and agenda [from DanC] 14:36:20 2. DAWG records and semweb best practices [from DanC] 14:36:22 3. SPARQL format spec announcement (ACTION: EricP to arrange for announcement of results format spec) [from DanC] 14:36:25 4. protocol, syntax extensibility (ACTION: EricP to provide a "SPARQL++" example query in the accessingCollections neighborhood ACTION: KC to add an example of a "SPARQL++" query 14:36:29 ... in the spec, and think about a separate interface ) [from DanC] 14:36:32 5. rdfSemantics comments (ACTION: DanC to complete response to Barstow ACTION: patH to respond to PFPS comments ACTION: AndyS to draft reply to Wood ) [from DanC] 14:36:35 EliasT has joined #dawg 14:36:35 6. Toward updated QL WD ACTION: AndyS to propose a publication plan [from DanC] 14:36:36 +[IBMCambridge] 14:36:41 Zakim, IBMCambridge is me 14:36:41 +EliasT; got it 14:36:43 What action on AndyS? 14:37:01 indeed, that's done. 14:37:17 Zakim, take up item 1 14:37:17 agendum 1. "Convene (or cancel), take roll, review records and agenda" taken up [from DanC] 14:38:38 JosDeRoo has joined #dawg 14:39:33 PROPOSED: to approve minutes 31 Jan 14:40:04 so RESOLVEd. 14:40:28 +Jos_De_Roo 14:40:53 Next meeting -- 14th Feb 14:41:02 Zakim, pick a scribe? 14:41:02 I don't understand your question, DanC. 14:41:13 Next meeting -- 14th Feb -- Scribe = EliasT 14:41:30 Zakim, next item 14:41:30 agendum 2. "DAWG records and semweb best practices" taken up [from DanC] 14:42:05 http://www.w3.org/2003/11/rdf-in-xhtml-demo 14:42:20 . http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ 14:42:33 EliasT has joined #dawg 14:42:42 http://www.w3.org/2003/11/rdf-in-xhtml-demo 14:42:47 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ 14:43:03 I get parse error :-( 14:43:05 DanC: DAWG records are variously formalized -- GRDDL demo service at http://www.w3.org/2003/11/rdf-in-xhtml-demo -- try with http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ to see some RDF/XML 14:43:43 Show source 14:43:53 http://groups.csail.mit.edu/dig/2005/ajar/ajaw/tab.html 14:45:26 signed.applets.codebase_principal_support 14:45:47 14:45:47 DanC: To get around privileges error -- go to about:config and set signed.applets.codebase_principal_support = true 14:47:14 1) Go to http://groups.csail.mit.edu/dig/2005/ajar/ajaw/tab.html 14:47:30 2) Input http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ in the URI: form box 14:47:35 3) Add to outliner 14:47:53 3b) If privileges error, start a new tab, and iput "about:config" in the address bar 14:48:03 3c) type "principal" (no quotes) in the filter box 14:48:07 3d) change setting value to true 14:48:59 3a) Click blue globe next to http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ 14:49:06 3e) retry 3a 14:49:32 +EricP 14:50:41 -EricP 14:51:35 +EricP 14:57:37 + 14:58:04 gnuclient? 14:58:50 In FF, view source is OK (and cheap to implement) 14:59:42 http://opensourcetesting.org/unit_javascript.php 14:59:49 -> http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2006/02swap/euler.js euler.js 14:59:58 ^ prolog engine in 85 lines of prolog 15:00:11 ^ prolog engine in 85 lines of javascript, rather 15:00:36 -> http://dannyayers.com/archives/2006/02/06/least-power/ Danny Ayers on Jos's euler.js 15:01:29 (note to self: talk to Jos at TP) 15:01:39 Zakim, next item 15:01:40 agendum 3. "SPARQL format spec announcement (ACTION: EricP to arrange for announcement of results format spec)" taken up [from DanC] 15:02:13 ack ericP 15:02:20 Pat, try http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2006/02swap/graph.html and do view source 15:02:58 Thnx Jos, got it. 15:04:39 http://jhart.de/component/option,com_newsfeeds/task,view/feedid,20/Itemid,58/ 15:04:51 When in doubt, don't. 15:05:52 we consider it sufficiently announced 15:05:55 We consider the results format LC announcement sufficiently done. 15:06:00 Zakim, next item 15:06:00 agendum 4. "protocol, syntax extensibility (ACTION: EricP to provide a "SPARQL++" example query in the accessingCollections neighborhood ACTION: KC to add an example of a 15:06:03 ... "SPARQL++" query in the spec, and think about a separate interface )" taken up [from DanC] 15:06:46 ACTION: EricP to provide a "SPARQL++" example query in the accessingCollections neighborhood DONE 15:07:41 1.110 $ of $Date: 2006/01/30 14:25:50 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/proto-wd/ 15:08:31 doesn't yet prohibit out message in the case of a syntax error 15:09:39 ACTION: KC to add an example of a SPARQL++" query in the spec, and think about a separate interface [CONTINUES] 15:09:47 Zakim, next item 15:09:47 agendum 5. "rdfSemantics comments (ACTION: DanC to complete response to Barstow ACTION: patH to respond to PFPS comments ACTION: AndyS to draft reply to Wood )" taken up [from 15:09:50 ... DanC] 15:10:05 ACTION: DanC to complete response to Barstow 15:10:19 -- continues 15:10:21 ACTION: patH to respond to PFPS comments 15:11:24 -- continues 15:11:49 ACTION: AndyS to draft reply to Wood 15:12:52 DONE. 15:14:26 jeen_ has joined #dawg 15:15:18 ACTION: AndyS send reply to Wood 15:15:32 Sorry - will make more noice 15:15:34 with "are you satisfied?" bit added and perhaps a link to issues#accessingCollections 15:16:40 agenda + valueTesting, xsd:string < 15:17:46 DanC: current issues status doesn't make it clear who has the ball for each comment; might formalize open comments inside editors' drafts and include that in LC Status report 15:17:49 seems good to me 15:17:52 (danc) 15:17:55 Zakim, next item 15:17:55 agendum 6. "Toward updated QL WD ACTION: AndyS to propose a publication plan" taken up [from DanC] 15:19:14 ack ericP 15:19:34 AFS: I've got 5 comments, some stuff from Fred Z, ... 15:23:56 DanC: Would like to have request to move to CR made before TP 15:24:08 ACTION DanC: draft request for CR 15:24:22 right 15:24:38 Zakim, next item 15:24:38 agendum 7. "valueTesting, xsd:string <" taken up [from DanC] 15:24:38 i'm *quiet* at least 15:25:04 ack ericP 15:25:50 str() does not quite get it, because of ORDER BY 15:26:33 PROPOSED: to 15:26:33 add xsd:string to 11.3 Operator Mapping and hence < and and ORDER BY 15:26:40 PROPOSED: add xsd:string to 11.3 Operator Mapping and hence < and and ORDER BY 15:27:02 not this week 15:27:19 ack jeen 15:27:30 DanC has changed the topic to: DAWG meets 7 Feb 15:27:34 EliasT and I will do it 15:27:41 Aye 15:27:42 Thx 15:28:15 so RESOLVED. 15:28:35 RESOLVED: add xsd:string to 11.3 Operator Mapping and hence < and and ORDER BY 15:29:00 ACTION LeeF: work with EliasT on xsd:string tests, incl < and ORDER BY 15:29:07 on it 15:29:14 ACTION EricP: edit 11.3 Operator Mapping to add xsd:string 15:29:18 Zakim, next item 15:29:18 I do not see any non-closed agenda items, DanC 15:29:34 ADJOURN 15:29:43 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 15:29:43 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/02/07-dawg-minutes.html LeeF 15:29:55 RRSAgent, make logs world-access 15:30:14 AndyS has left #dawg 15:30:24 -AndyS 15:30:27 -jeen 15:31:47 Zakim, mute ericP 15:31:48 EricP was already muted, DanC 15:31:55 sorry, forgot my polarity 15:40:44 added xsd:string < > xsd:string to Operator Mapping --> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#OperatorMapping 15:42:18 -LeeF 15:42:30 -EliasT 15:42:38 -PatH 15:42:40 -Jos_De_Roo 15:42:42 -DanC 15:42:43 -EricP 15:42:44 patH has left #dawg 15:42:45 SW_DAWG()9:30AM has ended 15:42:46 Attendees were AndyS, DanC, LeeF, jeen, PatH, EliasT, Jos_De_Roo, EricP 15:52:41 ooh... it would be really cool to have our request for CR be of the form, "if The Director agrees to X, Y, and Z, we then have a proof that we've met the entrance criteria for CR" 18:02:08 Zakim has left #dawg 19:22:19 EliasT has joined #dawg