17:52:12 RRSAgent has joined #swbp 17:52:12 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/02/06-swbp-irc 17:53:44 Meeting: SWBPD WG 17:54:28 dbooth has joined #swbp 17:54:28 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Feb/0026.html 17:54:38 chalaschek has joined #swbp 17:54:44 Previous: 2006-01-23 http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes 17:54:55 Zakim has joined #swbp 17:55:06 zakim, this will be swbp 17:55:06 ok, RalphS; I see SW_BPD()1:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes 17:56:34 [there's a glitch in our record-keeping arrangement, as the HTML TF met earlier today on this irc channel. I'll have to untangle this.] 17:57:12 Elisa has joined #swbp 17:58:49 SW_BPD()1:00PM has now started 17:58:56 + +1.408.930.aaaa 17:58:59 raphael has joined #swbp 17:59:01 hi all 17:59:12 FabGandon has joined #swbp 17:59:25 zakim, aaaa is me 17:59:25 +Elisa; got it 17:59:47 +David_Wood 18:00:01 +[UMD] 18:00:01 dwood has joined #swbp 18:00:08 +Ralph 18:00:11 benadida has joined #swbp 18:00:29 aliman has joined #swbp 18:00:31 zakim, mute me 18:00:31 +[CWI] 18:00:32 Elisa should now be muted 18:00:53 +[Sophia] 18:00:54 zakim, cwi is Raphael 18:00:54 +Raphael; got it 18:00:54 zakim, [Sophia] is FabGandon 18:00:55 +FabGandon; got it 18:00:58 zakim, umd is ChrisH 18:00:58 +ChrisH; got it 18:01:00 +??P8 18:01:07 zakim, ??p8 is DBooth 18:01:07 +DBooth; got it 18:01:07 zakim, I am DavidW 18:01:09 ok, dwood, I now associate you with David_Wood 18:01:15 zakim, [cwi] is raphael 18:01:15 sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '[cwi]' 18:01:21 Zakim, mute FabGandon 18:01:21 FabGandon should now be muted 18:01:23 zakim, [CWI] is raphael 18:01:23 sorry, raphael, I do not recognize a party named '[CWI]' 18:01:34 zakim, who is here? 18:01:34 On the phone I see Elisa (muted), David_Wood, ChrisH, Ralph, Raphael, FabGandon (muted), DBooth 18:01:37 On IRC I see aliman, benadida, dwood, FabGandon, raphael, Elisa, Zakim, chalaschek, dbooth, RRSAgent, RalphS, Guus, Steven 18:01:38 +Alistair_Miles (was Guest P9 7927) 18:01:40 +Alistair_Miles 18:01:57 +Ben_Adida 18:01:57 zakim, alistair is really me 18:01:58 +aliman; got it 18:02:04 zakim, mute me 18:02:04 Ben_Adida should now be muted 18:02:10 zakim, mute me 18:02:10 aliman should now be muted 18:02:20 zakim, mute me 18:02:20 Raphael should now be muted 18:02:36 +[IPcaller] 18:03:34 zakim, [IPCaller] is Guus 18:03:34 +Guus; got it 18:03:35 Jacco has joined #swbp 18:04:31 +Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen 18:04:34 EvanWallace has joined #swbp 18:04:39 zakim, mute me 18:04:39 Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen should now be muted 18:04:46 the scribing mistake may be mine 18:05:03 TBaker has joined #swbp 18:05:21 +Evan_Wallace 18:05:45 Scribe: DBooth 18:06:03 zakim, unmute me 18:06:03 Elisa should no longer be muted 18:06:26 +Tom_Baker 18:06:38 zakim, who is here? 18:06:38 On the phone I see Elisa, David_Wood, ChrisH, Ralph, Raphael (muted), FabGandon (muted), DBooth, aliman (muted), Ben_Adida (muted), Guus, Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen (muted), 18:06:41 ... Evan_Wallace, Tom_Baker 18:06:42 On IRC I see TBaker, EvanWallace, Jacco, aliman, benadida, dwood, FabGandon, raphael, Elisa, Zakim, chalaschek, dbooth, RRSAgent, RalphS, Guus, Steven 18:07:02 Regrets: Jeremy, Jeff Pan, Libby, Gary, Brian McBride 18:07:34 Regrets+ Deb-McGuinness 18:07:47 Topic: Admin 18:08:09 Minutes from 12 Dec: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0014.html 18:08:56 Minutes from 9 Jan: http://www.w3.org/2006/01/09-swbp-minutes 18:09:08 DWood: We didn't record accepting some of our previous minutes. 18:09:09 Minutes from 23 Jan: http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes 18:09:42 -> http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html 2005-12-12 record in HTML form 18:10:00 RESOLVED: Accept minutes of 12 Dec, 9 Jan and 23 Jan. 18:10:09 PROPOSED next meeting 20 February 2006 18:10:37 20 Feb is a US Holiday 18:11:23 RESOLVED: next meeting 20 February 2006 18:11:26 (I expect I will attend on the holiday if the WG meets then) 18:11:43 zakim, unmute me 18:11:43 Ben_Adida should no longer be muted 18:12:12 q+ to propose Cookbook for Working Draft 18:12:17 zakim, mute me 18:12:17 Ben_Adida should now be muted 18:12:32 ack TBaker 18:12:32 TBaker, you wanted to propose Cookbook for Working Draft 18:12:48 DWood: Other agenda for today? 18:12:58 Ben: RDF/A Primer 18:13:20 yes! 18:13:33 thank you! 18:13:49 zakim, unmute me 18:13:49 aliman should no longer be muted 18:13:50 Topic: 2.1 Proposed resolution httpRange-14 18:15:43 Alistair: DBooth had action to request clarification from TAG on the issue, and I had a VM TF action to ask whether 302 redirects are okay, so I drafted something boiling it down to whether hTTP responses are assertions. That also seemed like what was underlying a lot of discussion on the thread and whether it is okay to use a URI to name a person. I thought the httpRange-14 decision was to the effect that HTTP response is an assertion. 18:16:08 .... Pat Hayes said he doesn't think this is a good idea to ask, that this is still a research question. DWood also commented. 18:16:16 +1 to Pat Haye's arguments being well worth reading 18:16:25 s/ye's/yes'/ 18:16:39 q+ 18:16:48 ackk dbooth 18:16:55 ack dbooth 18:17:07 DBooth: my view has shifted as a result of the email discussion 18:17:26 ... I had felt that AWWW said that what the RDF/A Primer is doing should not be done 18:17:50 ... but after reading Pat Hayes' and Jeremy's remarks I see there is a different interpretation of the TAG's writings 18:18:01 +??P13 18:18:04 q+ to say something about webarch 18:18:05 ... I don't think it would be advisable to force the question right now 18:18:22 DavidW: is there a different question that is worth asking the TAG? 18:18:22 q+ to say I think we can sidestep the issue 18:18:40 jacco_ has joined #swbp 18:19:24 Ralph: I had been skeptical about whether it's worth asking the TAG to resolve anything, because I didn't feel it was likely they would answer quickly, so i'm confortable not pushing them on this. 18:19:44 DWood: How about a purely SemWeb interpretation of the rang-14 issue? 18:21:11 Ralph: Not sure that's the best use of our time in the WG. But publishing the docs that we are publishing (RDF/A Primer, Apache Config Cookbook), both docs can touch on this question. i hope there will be several venues in which this issue is discussed (including this WG), but having an objective to resolve this in the next few months may be reaching too far. 18:21:33 q? 18:22:00 ack aliman 18:22:00 aliman, you wanted to say something about webarch 18:23:20 Alistair: When I first read the TAG's httpRange-14 decision, the way I read it, I thought that the implied position was that an HTTP response is effectively an assertion, and I think quite a few other people read it that way as well. It could be useful to ask the question of the TAG. They could then say no, that isn't what we mean. 18:23:32 ack dbooth 18:23:32 dbooth, you wanted to say I think we can sidestep the issue 18:23:49 DBooth: it's reasonable to send a question to the TAG 18:24:00 ... with regard to our documents we can side-step the issue 18:24:18 ... as it really comes down to the particular usage of an ontology; whether that particular usage runs into the issue 18:24:51 jacco_ has changed the topic to: SWBPD TF agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Feb/0026.html 18:24:53 Ralph: I'm okay with posing the question to the TAG. Don't know howw much background we need to supply on it. 18:25:00 zakim, mute me 18:25:00 Elisa should now be muted 18:25:28 q+ 18:25:36 ack dbooth 18:26:08 DBooth: my interpretation now is that an HTTP response is an assertion but that assertion is different from what I originally expected 18:26:17 ... and perhaps also different from what Alistair and Pat expected 18:26:54 ... I don't want the TAG to think the WG is asking a question because we are waiting for a response but rather note that we ran into the question and found confusion in the area 18:27:05 suggest that DavidB takes this action 18:27:10 Ralph: "we noted some ambiguity ..." 18:27:24 zakim, unmute me 18:27:24 Elisa should no longer be muted 18:27:36 zakim, mute me 18:27:36 aliman should now be muted 18:27:37 ACTION: DBooth draft a new message to the TAG noting the ambiguity remaining in httpRange-14 and HTTP responses 18:27:45 ACTION: DBooth to draft TAG message noting confusion about meaning httpRange-14 decision 18:28:06 Topic: 2.2 OMG: ODM review 18:29:16 Elisa: No tools for QVT to validate. Delayed to April hoping for tools. Can drop Jeremy's action. 18:29:20 DROPPED: ACTION: jeremy to review OWL chapter of ODM 18:29:46 Topic: 2.3 Other 18:30:07 Elisa: I did review the WSDL 2.0 --> RDF mapping verbally. 18:30:18 DONE: ACTION: Elisa to review WSDL 2.0 RDF Mapping 18:30:35 zakim, mute me 18:30:35 Elisa should now be muted 18:31:07 PENDING: ACTION: Guus to arrange telecon between himself, Alistair [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action07] 18:32:25 guus did you just say you sent a mail to pfwg to arrange a telecon? 18:32:33 Topic: 3.1 PORT - Porting Thesaurii to RDF and OWL (Alistair) 18:32:44 zakim, unmute me 18:32:44 aliman should no longer be muted 18:32:56 zakim, unmute me 18:32:56 Elisa should no longer be muted 18:33:00 Alistair: Nothing to report 18:33:21 Ralph: Still expecting to do another WG of SKOS? 18:33:25 Alistair: Undecided. 18:33:27 Topic: 3.2 OEP - Ontology Engineering and Patterns (Deb/Chris) 18:33:29 s/WG/WD/ 18:33:57 -David_Wood 18:34:05 Elisa: Had a call last week. Chris and Allen working with Ralph. Action is now mine to work with Ralph to put it into CVS. 18:34:23 +David_Wood 18:34:44 ACTION: Elisa to work with Ralph to make lasted doc avail on CVS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action11] 18:35:05 wrt Action PFWG: it was rephrased as: "[NEW] ACTION: Guus to finish action of 2.4 within 1 week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action02]" 18:35:25 [DBooth to fill in action updates from Elisa's email] 18:35:30 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Feb/0027.html Elisa's report on action status for OEP actions 18:35:37 and i took the original action text for the agenda as it was clearer 18:35:59 Elisa: Still outstanding: Deb needs to be sure all comments are captured from Galway mtg. 18:36:09 ... (on integration note). 18:36:10 (hmm, actually, 0027 doesn't have the detail I'd thought) 18:36:37 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Feb/0042.html [ALL/OEP] Minutes of 2006-01-30 Telecon [Elisa 2006-02-06] 18:36:39 ... QCR note is being reconstructed after Chris's hard drive crash. Should be fine. 18:36:48 (0042 has more action status detail) 18:37:10 Guus: Voted on both notes alreadY? 18:37:30 Elisa: Not sure. One minor change needed on QCR from Alan. 18:38:17 ACTION: Deb to contact Chris and get status [recorded in 18:38:17 http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action08] 18:38:17 DONE 18:38:25 ACTION: Deb to report the plan of OEP [recorded in 18:38:25 http://www.w3.org/2006/01/09-swbp-minutes.html#action03] 18:38:26 DONE 18:39:05 ACTION: Guus to incorporate Alistair's comments into revised 18:39:05 draft of QCR draft, based on Alan's revision 18:39:05 [http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action19] 18:39:06 PENDING 18:39:19 ACTION: Chris to move todo's to the changes section 18:39:19 [http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action12] 18:39:20 PENDING 18:39:32 s/todo/QCR todo/ 18:39:50 ACTION: Raphael Georgios S, Fabien, Phil to review Semantic 18:39:50 Integration note [http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action15] 18:39:51 DONE 18:40:02 zakim, unmute me 18:40:02 Raphael should no longer be muted 18:40:05 q°+ 18:40:07 q+ 18:40:29 Zakim, unmute FabGandon 18:40:29 FabGandon should no longer be muted 18:40:36 zakim, ??p13 is probably Mike_Uschold 18:40:36 +Mike_Uschold?; got it 18:41:09 Mike: Had a meeting where we made a detailed plan for the Note. I updated a new draft, much more detailed. Missing code examples. Chris Benzel will fill in code examples. Deb McGuiness will add an example at the end of the note. 18:41:23 ack Raphael 18:41:46 Raphael: Still the version of 3 Nov. Is there a new URI for the latest version? 18:41:51 what's the URI for the sem integration note? 18:42:06 ACTION: Mike to put up latest version of the sem integration note 18:42:35 Mike: You could review structure now or wait for complete draft. 18:42:57 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/OEP/ points to http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/OEP/SemInt/ (currently dated 3 Nov 2005) 18:43:04 zakim, unmute me 18:43:04 Raphael was not muted, raphael 18:43:11 Zakim, mute FabGandon 18:43:11 FabGandon should now be muted 18:43:18 zakim, mute me 18:43:18 Raphael should now be muted 18:43:38 ACTION: Raphael Georgios S, Fabien, Phil to review Semantic Integration note [http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action15] 18:43:44 CONTINUED 18:44:01 ACTION: Evan to send note to Feng on discussion of semantics 18:44:01 [http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action13] 18:44:08 DONE 18:44:26 Elisa: Evan pointed out an issue with the domain language. 18:44:45 s/semantics/semantics in time ontology note/ 18:44:58 s/DONE/CONTINUED/ 18:45:14 ACTION: Guus to review OWL Time note [recorded in [recorded 18:45:14 in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action09] 18:45:19 CONTINUED 18:46:00 action#17 is to get part-whole ready for publication 18:46:21 Elisa: Regarding part/whole note, Chris is reconstructing it from hard drive crash. 18:46:59 q+ 18:46:59 ACTION: Chris and Alan to work with Ralph to make [recorded 18:46:59 in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action17] 18:47:03 CONTINUED 18:48:23 Elisa: N-ary relations note is waiting on a new ordering pattern from Pat Hayes. Currently ordering of flight segments is implicit. Pat has the action to fix this; not sure of how to get it into the note. 18:49:01 ... Discussion of additional potential notes. Chris has asked for a Fluents note. 18:49:02 "Chris is working on a Fluents note, " -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Feb/0042.html 18:50:20 q? 18:50:21 Elisa: Been talking about units of measure, what will happen to OEP. Suggestion was to ask OEP to be rechartered. Chris might participate at a lower level. No conclusion but we thought it is a good idea for it to move forward. 18:51:51 zakim, unmute me 18:51:51 Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen should no longer be muted 18:51:58 zakim, mute me 18:51:58 Elisa should now be muted 18:52:02 ACTION: Ralph add link to minutes of f2f on WG home page 18:52:11 Guus: We only approved the Part/Whole note at the Galway F2F. 18:52:19 ACTION: Ralph check for link to minutes of March 2005 f2f on WG home page 18:52:44 zakim, mute me 18:52:44 Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen should now be muted 18:53:05 q- 18:53:29 Topic: 3.3 WordNet (Aldo) 18:53:54 Guus: Mark has made a new version. Handles all comments so far. Want reviewers. 18:54:07 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/WNET/wn-conversion.html RDF/OWL Representation of WordNet $Id: 06-swbp-irc.txt,v 1.85 2006/02/06 21:17:04 swick Exp $ 18:54:14 ... Main addition: Added intro for how to use it. 18:54:20 zakim, unmute me 18:54:20 Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen should no longer be muted 18:54:55 action: jacco to review wn 18:54:56 ACTION: Jacco to do second review of WordNet doc 18:55:03 zakim, unmute me 18:55:03 sorry, TBaker, I do not see a party named 'TBaker' 18:55:16 action- 16 18:55:18 ACTION: Guus to ask Brian to review Wordnet doc 18:55:28 ACTION: Guus to bring issue wrt URI space for ontologies 18:55:28 [http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action14] 18:55:28 DONE 18:55:32 zakim, mute me 18:55:32 Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen should now be muted 18:56:18 zakim, Tom_Baker is really me 18:56:18 +TBaker; got it 18:56:25 zakim, unmute me 18:56:25 TBaker should no longer be muted 18:56:35 q? 18:56:44 Topic: 3.4 XSCH - XML Schema Datatypes (Jeremy) 18:57:18 -FabGandon 18:57:18 jacco__ has joined #swbp 18:57:34 The editors hence propose publishing: 18:57:34 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/XSCH/xsch-sw-20060127/ 18:57:34 as a WG Note. 18:57:43 URI for my WNET action: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Feb/0043.html 18:58:02 PROPOSED to move WD to WG Note: 18:58:02 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0161.html 18:58:26 zakim, unmute me 18:58:26 Elisa should no longer be muted 18:58:34 Ralph: Who reviewed? 18:58:36 Jacco__ has joined #swbp 18:58:41 zakim, mute me 18:58:41 Elisa should now be muted 18:58:42 Guus: Evan and Ralph reviewed. 18:59:01 Ralph: I'd have to re-read this before I can state an opinion. 18:59:21 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/XSCH/xsch-sw-20060127/ 18:59:56 ACTION: Ralph and Evan to provide reviews of Schema note http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/XSCH/xsch-sw-20060127/ by next meeting 19:00:09 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0180.html - see Section 3, "Response to reviews" 19:00:13 Topic; 3.5 VM - Vocabulary Management (TomB) 19:00:18 s/;/:/ 19:01:04 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0180.html [VM] Telecon Tuesday (today) 15:00 UTC 19:01:06 Tom: Discussed suggestions made by reviewers. Want to propose the draft for publication as WD. 19:01:12 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/VM/http-examples/2006-01-18/ 19:02:24 ... I believe we addressed major points made by reviewers. 19:03:16 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0180.html 19:03:18 DWood: Reviewers were Andreas and DBooth. 19:05:00 no amendments are being proposed 19:05:08 Guus: I propose we put this on agenda for next time. 19:05:45 DBooth: are we proposing to remove some words regarding httpRange-14 from the cookbook? 19:06:08 ... the intent of my action was to propose some words on how to select which type of URI to use, which I think is still relevant 19:06:11 q+ to mention scope 19:06:39 ... I recall doing some work on these words but might not have posted to the list 19:06:55 ... I think words can be written that avoid controversy 19:07:33 q+ to ask DBooth if these additional words should hold a first WD 19:08:00 ack aliman 19:08:00 aliman, you wanted to mention scope 19:08:09 DBooth: I think it is relevant to say something about what kind of URI to use 19:08:30 Alistair: the TF summarized the scope of the document [reads Introduction] 19:08:53 ... the document scope is primarily for existing vocabularies 19:09:06 ... though Ralph did include a few words about choosing names 19:09:29 ... if David wants to propose some new text I'd be glad to look 19:10:22 DavidW: DBooth is free to propose words, the TF decides whether or not to include the proposed words before asking the WG to publish 19:10:41 Alistair: in that case, I ask the WG to publish the draft as-is and we consider any proposed new words in a future update 19:11:15 DBooth: I'm comfortable with that. It sounds as thought the TF carefully bounded its scope to avoid the question of picking URIs but I feel this is such an obvious question that it should be covered 19:11:16 q+ 19:11:38 ack me 19:11:38 RalphS, you wanted to ask DBooth if these additional words should hold a first WD 19:11:45 ack RalphS 19:12:15 ack TBaker 19:12:52 Tom: can we take the resolution to advance the cookbook to Working Draft on the next telecon, please 19:12:58 Tom: I'd like to advance this to WD on 20 Feb. Would like any proposed text before 14 Feb. 19:13:48 ACTION: DBooth to re-review Cookbook document 19:14:14 ACTION: Tom to ask Andreas to re-review Cookbook document in light of changes already made. 19:15:43 zakim, unmute me 19:15:43 Ben_Adida should no longer be muted 19:15:44 s/DBooth to re-review Cookbook document/DBooth to re-review Cookbook document by 14 Feb/ 19:15:55 Topic: 3.6 HTML - Embedding RDF in HTML (Ben) 19:16:40 q+ 19:17:00 Ben: Lots of discussion regarding WebArch issues. On mailing list 2 wks ago I made a mistake and forgot to include a section that Mark had written. Lots of positive feedback on them. Wanted to check withh the WG that we're still okay to go to WD. 19:17:14 we have voted, so it is basicaly editor's discretion 19:17:19 q+ to say I'm okay going okay with first WD 19:17:27 ack dbooth 19:17:27 dbooth, you wanted to say I'm okay going okay with first WD 19:17:45 Guus: We already voted on it. 19:18:42 ... No problem in going forward with it. 19:19:41 DONE: ACTION: ben to contact alistair on use of frag id's 19:20:12 RESOLVED: Document is ready to publish. 19:20:54 ACTION: Ralph to publish RDF/A document 19:21:22 s/publish./publish as a WD./ 19:21:37 s/RESOLVED/AGREED/ 19:22:09 s/AGREED/CONFIRMED 19:22:20 Topic: 3.7 ADTF - Applications and Demos (Libby) 19:22:23 (skipped) 19:22:32 Topic: 3.8 RDFTM - RDF/Topic Maps Interoperability (Steve) 19:22:35 (skippeed) 19:22:40 zakim, mute me 19:22:40 Ben_Adida should now be muted 19:22:55 ACTION: Ralph check with Valentina on whether there are 19:22:55 editorial changes to rdftm-survey, then start WG Note 19:22:55 publication process if none 19:22:55 [http://www.w3.org/2005/12/12-swbp-minutes.html#action30] 19:22:57 DROPPED 19:23:04 s/DROPPED/DONE/ 19:23:08 Topic: 3.9 Tutorial Page 19:23:10 (skipped) 19:23:22 Topic: 3.10 SE - Software Engineering 19:23:30 ACTION: RalphS will make a publication request for the 19:23:30 SE Primer [recorded in 19:23:30 http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action24] 19:23:32 PENDING 19:24:08 ACTION: Ralph cite relevant CG meeting records [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/23-swbp-minutes.html#action23] 19:24:15 PENDING 19:24:18 zakim, unmute me 19:24:18 Jacco_van_Ossenbruggen should no longer be muted 19:24:24 Topic: 3.11 MM - Multimedia Annotation 19:24:25 q? 19:25:04 Jacco: Want to move the MM doc to public WD. Reviewers: Mike and Guus. 19:25:24 DWood: Has Jane Hunter contributed? 19:25:44 Jacco: She contributed a first draft of example. I asked her to revise it and have not heard back. 19:25:46 q+ to ask about Jane Hunter's contribution 19:25:58 "Image annotation on the Semantic Web", latest version available at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html (v1.142) 19:26:05 ack RalphS 19:26:05 RalphS, you wanted to ask about Jane Hunter's contribution 19:26:08 ... Chris Canto also promised to send a use case soon-ish. 19:26:40 Ralph: Jane Hunter has not completed the invited expert materials. 19:26:45 Jacco: She told me she had. 19:26:57 s/Canto/Catton 19:27:01 Ralph: There's a form she needs to complete. 19:27:33 Jacco: I think her name can be removed from the list of contributors. 19:27:49 ... I'll forward Ralph her email about this. 19:28:28 zakim, unmute me 19:28:28 Raphael should no longer be muted 19:28:41 Jacco: Please note that in Section 5.4, s/Apollo 7 Saturn shuttle launch/Apollo 7 Saturn rocket launch/ 19:29:28 ACTION: Mike to re-review MM doc to see if his concerns are addressed 19:30:08 PROPOSED: To move the MM doc to WD contingent on Mike's approval of changes. 19:30:21 "Image annotation on the Semantic Web", latest version available at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html (v1.142) 19:30:58 s/Jacco:/Jacco,/ 19:31:07 Mike: it isn't linked from the BP web page. 19:32:03 q+ to ask a copyright question 19:32:21