IRC log of MMTF on 2006-01-26

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15:58:03 [jrvosse]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0127.html
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16:01:06 [jrvosse]
zakim, who is there
16:01:06 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is there', jrvosse
16:01:21 [jrvosse]
zakim, who
16:01:23 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who', jrvosse
16:01:36 [JeffP]
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Hi
16:01:52 [raphael]
hi JeffP
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16:02:26 [jrvosse]
zakim, what conference is this?
16:02:26 [Zakim]
no conference has been selected, jrvosse
16:02:36 [jrvosse]
zakim, this is mmtf
16:02:36 [Zakim]
ok, jrvosse; that matches SW_(MM TF)11:00AM
16:02:38 [raphael]
hi giorgos
16:02:53 [jrvosse]
zakim, who is here
16:02:53 [Zakim]
jrvosse, you need to end that query with '?'
16:02:53 [giorgos]
hi I'm calling now
16:02:57 [jrvosse]
zakim, who is here?
16:02:57 [Zakim]
On the phone I see ??P22, [CWI], ??P40
16:03:01 [Zakim]
On IRC I see giorgos, JeffP, raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, jrvosse, chalaschek
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+Giorgos_Stamou
16:03:28 [jrvosse]
zakim, ??p22 is me
16:03:28 [Zakim]
+jrvosse; got it
16:03:30 [giorgos]
who is on the phone?
16:03:44 [JeffP]
zakim, ??P40 is me
16:03:44 [Zakim]
+JeffP; got it
16:03:47 [jrvosse]
zakim, [CWI] is Raphael
16:03:47 [Zakim]
+Raphael; got it
16:03:53 [jrvosse]
zakim, who is here?
16:03:53 [Zakim]
On the phone I see jrvosse, Raphael, JeffP, Giorgos_Stamou
16:03:54 [Zakim]
On IRC I see giorgos, JeffP, raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, jrvosse, chalaschek
16:04:36 [Zakim]
+Vassilis
16:04:41 [jrvosse]
Chair: Giorgos_Stamou
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Scribe: jrvosse
16:05:16 [jrvosse]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2006Jan/0127.html
16:05:36 [jrvosse]
minutes are accepted
16:06:06 [jrvosse]
next meeting is Feb 8 is 1pm UTC
16:06:48 [jrvosse]
agenda amendments: giorgos: I'd like to spend more time on the XG
16:06:53 [jrvosse]
Agreed
16:07:04 [jrvosse]
Topic: 1st deliverable
16:07:17 [jrvosse]
ACTION 1: done
16:08:09 [jrvosse]
action: jacco to forward comments from chris catton to swbpd
16:08:42 [jrvosse]
action: raphael to finish mike's comments: continued
16:09:14 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: I've a problem with mike's comment on unification of the various contributions
16:09:58 [jrvosse]
Action: Raphael: I can give it another editorial process, and send it to you on Wednesday
16:10:51 [jrvosse]
Vassilis: the use cases need to be more aligned in the structure,
16:10:57 [jrvosse]
We could adapt the same structure as jacco's eculture use case
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like an intro/main/conclusion section
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Accepted
16:12:29 [jrvosse]
ACTION: Raphael, Vassilis, Chris: add intro/main part/conclusion structure. Deadline this monday.
16:12:59 [jrvosse]
Action: jeff & vassilis to work on the 1st deliverable: continued
16:13:31 [jrvosse]
action: vassilis send paola the draft when we go public
16:13:50 [chalaschek]
hi guys...my participation will be minimal...sitting in class right now :)
16:16:33 [jrvosse]
action item: Jacco send proposal Wed Feb 1 to go public
16:18:05 [jrvosse]
Jacco: we can keep a link to the editor's draft but we can only update the public draft after a new WG vote
16:18:29 [jrvosse]
Raphael: make sure everyone fills in a change field in the cvs commit
16:18:49 [jrvosse]
topic: 2nd deliverable
16:19:13 [jrvosse]
Raphael: Chris has summarized his EXIF work and send it to the list
16:19:36 [jrvosse]
Mike Ushold's comment applies to all work done: we need to identify the use case and services
16:20:00 [jrvosse]
Action: Chris to continue EXIF work in direction suggested by Mike Ushold
16:20:31 [jrvosse]
action by Giorgos w.r.t. the mpeg-7 VDO done, sent to the list
16:20:56 [jrvosse]
action: Raphael send comments to list
16:21:19 [jrvosse]
action: Giorgos send design document of the VDO to the list
16:22:11 [jrvosse]
action: Giorgos to add alignement stuff: continued by other Georgos
16:22:50 [jrvosse]
action: Vassilis to put the list of standards in the second section
16:23:14 [jrvosse]
Giorgos will try all of this before the next teleconf
16:23:44 [giorgos]
Stoilos
16:24:00 [jrvosse]
s/Georgos/Georgos Stoilos
16:24:34 [jrvosse]
Georgos Stoilos will attend the next teleconf
16:24:50 [jrvosse]
Action: mail Gavin continued
16:25:07 [jrvosse]
action: jacco to work on the VRA stuff continued
16:25:30 [jrvosse]
action: Jeff to send mail to DFKI, done
16:25:39 [giorgos]
s/Georgos Stoilos/Giorgos Stoilos
16:26:21 [jrvosse]
action: Jeff contact DFKI about the XG
16:27:24 [jrvosse]
status action by ntua to fill the various action promised in Galway?
16:28:08 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: we have filled in the place holders for the schedule, not done the actual work
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So the action is done
16:28:58 [jrvosse]
List of standards from Vassilis
16:29:32 [jrvosse]
After we decided about what standards I can put them in the right format
16:30:23 [jrvosse]
I suggest we keep the relevant standards in the list and explain for each we didn't consider why
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action: ALL read Vassilis document and select the standards NOT te be included
16:32:19 [jrvosse]
Raphael: TVanytime is not image specific
16:32:43 [jrvosse]
Vassilis: FOAF and SKOS are in red because they are not multimedia standards
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Vassilis: so vote and explain briefly why not to include these standard
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so than I can work on this
16:34:31 [jrvosse]
Deadline: before the next teleconf
16:34:50 [jrvosse]
Vassilis: if you want to add something, feel free
16:34:59 [jrvosse]
action: Raphael add XMP
16:35:15 [jrvosse]
Topic: Multimedia ontology requirements
16:35:32 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: we might get another extension
16:36:02 [jrvosse]
Raphael: I have some ideas, I can take these from previous publication
16:36:38 [jrvosse]
It will be an archiving point of view, while NTUA will have more an analysis point of view
16:36:53 [jrvosse]
The size of the documents is not important
16:37:16 [jrvosse]
A list of bullits will not be enough
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But a bulleted list with short descriptions will be sufficient
16:39:28 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: we need to do some more research as is planned in k-space
16:46:35 [jrvosse]
action: giorgos to ask for an deadline extnesion
16:46:54 [jrvosse]
action: jacco to send first list of requirements
16:47:10 [jrvosse]
topic: Possible Multimedia XG
16:47:26 [raphael]
The minutes of the XG meeting are in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/25-mmxg-minutes.html
16:48:03 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: the policy of invited experts is less strict than for WGs, even if the formal language is the same on the w3c site
16:48:18 [jrvosse]
So I think we should go on
16:49:00 [jrvosse]
Proposal: MMTF intends to contintue as an XG after the end of the WG
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Accpeted
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Giorgos: should we go with the current 4 partners or extend the number of participant
16:49:49 [jrvosse]
Raphael: We should extend, but carefully
16:50:01 [jrvosse]
Jeff: also from industry
16:51:10 [jrvosse]
action: Giorgos send mail to Paola and Yannis to point them to the XG minutes and ask them to help us with the proposal
16:55:09 [jrvosse]
We are talking with Doug Williams from BT
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Vassilis: K-Space may also participate in W3C and the XG
16:56:31 [jrvosse]
Jacco: and Chris Catton from Oxford also expressed interest
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action: Giorgos to write paragraphs about goal and scope before next teleconf
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action: all to find and contact possible participants for the XG
16:59:00 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: suggest to use Multimedia Semantics XG as a working name
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accepted
16:59:22 [jrvosse]
Topic: AOB
16:59:25 [jrvosse]
none
16:59:51 [Zakim]
-Raphael
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-JeffP
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-jrvosse
17:00:04 [jrvosse]
rrsagent, make logs public
17:00:06 [giorgos]
thanks Jacco
17:00:14 [jrvosse]
rrsagent, draft minutes
17:00:14 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/01/26-MMTF-minutes.html jrvosse
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-Giorgos_Stamou
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-Vassilis
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SW_(MM TF)11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Giorgos_Stamou, jrvosse, JeffP, Raphael, Vassilis
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