12:55:05 RRSAgent has joined #MMTF 12:55:05 logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc 12:55:16 raphael has joined #MMTF 12:55:18 hi chris, happy new year! 12:55:26 happy new year Chris 12:55:52 hi guys, happy new year to both of you! 12:55:53 Zakim has joined #MMTF 12:56:11 jrvosse has changed the topic to: SWBPD WG Multimedia Task Force 12:57:03 zakim,list 12:57:03 I see no active conferences 12:57:05 scheduled at this time are Team_W3M()8:00AM, SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM 12:57:34 zakim, this is SW_BPD(MM TF) 12:57:34 jrvosse, I see SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_BPD(MM TF)". 12:57:46 zakim, this will be SW_BPD(MM TF) 12:57:46 ok, jrvosse; I see SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes 12:58:10 SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM has now started 12:58:16 zakim, who's here? 12:58:16 On the phone I see no one 12:58:19 On IRC I see raphael, RRSAgent, chalaschek, jrvosse 12:58:20 +Giorgos_Stamou 12:59:41 + +31.20.592.aaaa 12:59:50 + +1.917.330.aabb 13:00:10 +[CWI] 13:00:16 zakim, Giorgos_Stamou is Vassilis 13:00:16 +Vassilis; got it 13:00:31 zakim, +31.20.592.aaaa is Jacco 13:00:31 +Jacco; got it 13:00:54 +Giorgos_Stamou 13:00:58 zakim, +1.917.330.aabb is Chris 13:00:58 +Chris; got it 13:01:05 zakim, who's here? 13:01:05 On the phone I see Vassilis, Jacco, Chris, [CWI], Giorgos_Stamou 13:01:06 On IRC I see raphael, RRSAgent, chalaschek, jrvosse 13:01:30 zakim, [CWI] is Raphael 13:01:30 +Raphael; got it 13:01:32 zakim, who's here? 13:01:32 On the phone I see Vassilis, Jacco, Chris, Raphael, Giorgos_Stamou 13:01:33 On IRC I see raphael, RRSAgent, chalaschek, jrvosse 13:02:05 vassilis has joined #mmtf 13:02:35 on http://image.ntua.gr/swamm2006/web/programcommittee.html 2nd line, replace "compihgne" by "compiegne" 13:03:16 GiorgosStamou has joined #mmtf 13:03:31 è 13:03:43 Happy New Year to all of you 13:05:04 +Jeff_Pan 13:06:38 chair: GiorgosStamou 13:06:45 scribe: jrvosse 13:06:50 JeffP has joined #MMTF 13:06:58 zakim, who's here? 13:06:58 On the phone I see Vassilis, Jacco, Chris, Raphael, Giorgos_Stamou, Jeff_Pan 13:07:01 On IRC I see JeffP, GiorgosStamou, vassilis, Zakim, raphael, RRSAgent, chalaschek, jrvosse 13:07:28 agenda 1: first deliverable 13:08:11 GS: we've more or less finished the review from Mike 13:09:21 Jacco: I want to ask Guus today so we can make a decision next monday during the WG teleconf 13:09:47 Raphael: we did not do all Mike's comments yet 13:11:06 Raphael: I think the points of giorgos are still open 13:11:10 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html 13:11:32 this should be the latest version, make sure you have at least revision 1.109 13:11:58 Giorgos: I think the tool section has all mike's comments 13:12:36 Jeff: Leave the TODOs in? Jacco yes 13:13:06 action: Jacco send Guus request for review and ask to add it to the agenda 13:13:40 action: Raphael to finish comments from Mike in the next two weeks 13:14:11 Raphael, Vassilis and Giorgos will all be in London for K-Space, can disscuss this further 13:15:01 action: Vassilis and Jeff to work also on the deliverable 13:15:20 Jeff: what about Jane's use case? 13:16:29 action: Jacco to ask for another Scientific use case 13:19:52 agenda 2: second deliverable 13:20:26 Jeff: we discussed syntax vs semantic interop, for example VRA has no serialization syntax 13:21:24 action: Raphael process Galway notes in the current draft 13:22:38 Giorgos: NTUA did some work on the structure decided on in Galway 13:23:23 including work on the OWL representatin of the VD of MPEG-7 13:23:45 different from the AceMedia version which was in RDFS 13:24:10 action: Giorgos send new VD to the list 13:25:05 Giorgos: also working on the definition and requirements for multimedia ontologies 13:25:39 Raphael: In collaboration with Yannis from acemedia? 13:26:07 Giorgos: no, but we need to align our effors with the aceMedia call for requirements 13:26:36 Giorgos: we will cover the alignment issues before the end of the month 13:26:58 action: Giorgos to add alignment stuff to deliverable 13:27:24 Vassilis: List of relevant standards? 13:28:00 Vassilis: we made an extensive survey and will send it next week 13:28:49 action: Vassilis send a list of standards to the list 13:30:03 Vassilis: DFKI also did work on MPEG-7 and are willing to contribute 13:31:15 http://www.dfki.uni-kl.de/~sintek/ 13:31:26 Michael Sintek 13:31:37 Jeff: I sent a email to Michael Sintek from DFKI 13:32:11 Giorgos: they could work on the 2nd deliverable 13:33:04 action: Jeff to send Michael Sintek another mail 13:34:59 Raphael will not have time in the next two weeks 13:35:14 Chris: I could do some work 13:35:28 Giorgos: Please work on the 2nd one if you have time 13:36:30 action: Chris to work on the EXIF issues 13:37:12 Raphael: Maybe you could find out if there are other tools besides the one from Norman Walsh 13:37:30 Giorgos: what about Mark van Assem? 13:38:26 action: Jacco work on the VRA issues 13:40:38 Giorgos: Jeff: what did you agree to work on in Galway? 13:40:53 Raphael: Jeff did have any assignments 13:41:26 action: Raphael to resend the Galway mail 13:42:53 action: Giorgos to put placeholders to schedule the work in the deliverable 13:43:14 Chris: what is the timeline for the 2nd deliverable 13:43:39 Raphael: the optimistic version is to have something at the end of the charter 13:44:18 Vassilis: End of february is the planery W3C meeting in Cannes 13:44:53 Giorgos: So we should have a first draft to discuss with the rest of the WG 13:44:57 Raphael: I agree 13:46:27 Vassilis: who is going to the planery meeting? 13:46:37 Jacco: do not know yet 13:47:00 Jeff: is mid february sufficiently early? 13:47:18 Giorgos: this is to give Raphael some more time 13:47:51 Giorgos, lets keep the end of jan deadline, at least for NTUA 13:48:58 NTUA can fill the various slots we promised in Galway 13:49:35 action: NTUA to fill the various slots promised in Galway before end of Janaury 13:51:32 action: Giorgos arrange teleconf for monday 23 jan 13:52:02 vassilis: paola asked to see the deliverable when ready 13:52:41 giorgos: paola will forward this to the aceMedia partners 13:53:28 action: Vassilis send draft to Paola when it is made public 13:54:30 vassilis: Should we discuss the multimedia requirement call of paola? 14:00:48 action: Rapael, Giorgos and Vassilis to talk about this in London and update the task force later 14:07:56 Jeff: what about Gavin from Adobe? 14:08:11 action: Jacco to contact Gavin 14:08:51 rrsagent, list actions 14:08:51 I see 18 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-actions.rdf : 14:08:51 ACTION: Jacco send Guus request for review and ask to add it to the agenda [1] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-13-06 14:08:51 ACTION: Raphael to finish comments from Mike in the next two weeks [2] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-13-40 14:08:51 ACTION: Vassilis and Jeff to work also on the deliverable [3] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-15-01 14:08:51 ACTION: Jacco to ask for another Scientific use case [4] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-16-29 14:08:51 ACTION: Raphael process Galway notes in the current draft [5] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-21-24 14:08:51 ACTION: Giorgos send new VD to the list [6] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-24-10 14:08:51 ACTION: Giorgos to add alignment stuff to deliverable [7] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-26-58 14:08:51 ACTION: Vassilis send a list of standards to the list [8] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-28-49 14:08:51 ACTION: Jeff to send Michael Sintek another mail [9] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-33-04 14:08:51 ACTION: Chris to work on the EXIF issues [10] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-36-30 14:08:51 ACTION: Jacco work on the VRA issues [11] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-38-26 14:08:51 ACTION: Raphael to resend the Galway mail [12] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-41-26 14:08:51 ACTION: Giorgos to put placeholders to schedule the work in the deliverable [13] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-42-53 14:08:51 ACTION: NTUA to fill the various slots promised in Galway before end of Janaury [14] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-49-35 14:08:51 ACTION: Giorgos arrange teleconf for monday 23 jan [15] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-51-32 14:08:51 ACTION: Vassilis send draft to Paola when it is made public [16] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-53-28 14:08:51 ACTION: Rapael, Giorgos and Vassilis to talk about this in London and update the task force later [17] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T14-00-48 14:08:51 ACTION: Jacco to contact Gavin [18] 14:08:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T14-08-11 14:09:29 vasillis, about SWAMM, on http://image.ntua.gr/swamm2006/web/programcommittee.html replace also "Fernando Pereira" by "Fernando Perreira" with "rr" 14:10:15 vasillis, about SWAMM, on http://image.ntua.gr/swamm2006/web/programcommittee.html replace also "Fernando Pereira" by "Fernando Perreira" with "rr" 14:11:09 -Chris 14:11:10 -Jeff_Pan 14:11:10 -Raphael 14:11:16 Giorgos: meeting closed 14:11:29 -Jacco 14:11:33 -Giorgos_Stamou 14:11:42 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:11:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-minutes.html jrvosse 14:12:26 rrsagent, make logs world-visible 14:12:33 rrsagent, make minutes world-visible 14:12:33 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes world-visible', jrvosse. Try /msg RRSAgent help 14:12:40 -Vassilis 14:12:42 SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM has ended 14:12:43 Attendees were Vassilis, Jacco, Giorgos_Stamou, Chris, Raphael, Jeff_Pan 15:28:04 Zakim has left #MMTF