IRC log of MMTF on 2006-01-04

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc
12:55:16 [raphael]
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12:55:18 [jrvosse]
hi chris, happy new year!
12:55:26 [raphael]
happy new year Chris
12:55:52 [chalaschek]
hi guys, happy new year to both of you!
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jrvosse has changed the topic to: SWBPD WG Multimedia Task Force
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zakim,list
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I see no active conferences
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scheduled at this time are Team_W3M()8:00AM, SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM
12:57:34 [jrvosse]
zakim, this is SW_BPD(MM TF)
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jrvosse, I see SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_BPD(MM TF)".
12:57:46 [jrvosse]
zakim, this will be SW_BPD(MM TF)
12:57:46 [Zakim]
ok, jrvosse; I see SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM has now started
12:58:16 [jrvosse]
zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see no one
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On IRC I see raphael, RRSAgent, chalaschek, jrvosse
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+Giorgos_Stamou
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+ +31.20.592.aaaa
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+ +1.917.330.aabb
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+[CWI]
13:00:16 [jrvosse]
zakim, Giorgos_Stamou is Vassilis
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+Vassilis; got it
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zakim, +31.20.592.aaaa is Jacco
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+Jacco; got it
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+Giorgos_Stamou
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zakim, +1.917.330.aabb is Chris
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+Chris; got it
13:01:05 [jrvosse]
zakim, who's here?
13:01:05 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Vassilis, Jacco, Chris, [CWI], Giorgos_Stamou
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On IRC I see raphael, RRSAgent, chalaschek, jrvosse
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zakim, [CWI] is Raphael
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+Raphael; got it
13:01:32 [jrvosse]
zakim, who's here?
13:01:32 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Vassilis, Jacco, Chris, Raphael, Giorgos_Stamou
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On IRC I see raphael, RRSAgent, chalaschek, jrvosse
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13:02:35 [raphael]
on http://image.ntua.gr/swamm2006/web/programcommittee.html 2nd line, replace "compihgne" by "compiegne"
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13:03:31 [raphael]
è
13:03:43 [GiorgosStamou]
Happy New Year to all of you
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+Jeff_Pan
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chair: GiorgosStamou
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scribe: jrvosse
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zakim, who's here?
13:06:58 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Vassilis, Jacco, Chris, Raphael, Giorgos_Stamou, Jeff_Pan
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On IRC I see JeffP, GiorgosStamou, vassilis, Zakim, raphael, RRSAgent, chalaschek, jrvosse
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agenda 1: first deliverable
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GS: we've more or less finished the review from Mike
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Jacco: I want to ask Guus today so we can make a decision next monday during the WG teleconf
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Raphael: we did not do all Mike's comments yet
13:11:06 [jrvosse]
Raphael: I think the points of giorgos are still open
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html
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this should be the latest version, make sure you have at least revision 1.109
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Giorgos: I think the tool section has all mike's comments
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Jeff: Leave the TODOs in? Jacco yes
13:13:06 [jrvosse]
action: Jacco send Guus request for review and ask to add it to the agenda
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action: Raphael to finish comments from Mike in the next two weeks
13:14:11 [jrvosse]
Raphael, Vassilis and Giorgos will all be in London for K-Space, can disscuss this further
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action: Vassilis and Jeff to work also on the deliverable
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Jeff: what about Jane's use case?
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action: Jacco to ask for another Scientific use case
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agenda 2: second deliverable
13:20:26 [jrvosse]
Jeff: we discussed syntax vs semantic interop, for example VRA has no serialization syntax
13:21:24 [jrvosse]
action: Raphael process Galway notes in the current draft
13:22:38 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: NTUA did some work on the structure decided on in Galway
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including work on the OWL representatin of the VD of MPEG-7
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different from the AceMedia version which was in RDFS
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action: Giorgos send new VD to the list
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Giorgos: also working on the definition and requirements for multimedia ontologies
13:25:39 [jrvosse]
Raphael: In collaboration with Yannis from acemedia?
13:26:07 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: no, but we need to align our effors with the aceMedia call for requirements
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Giorgos: we will cover the alignment issues before the end of the month
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action: Giorgos to add alignment stuff to deliverable
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Vassilis: List of relevant standards?
13:28:00 [jrvosse]
Vassilis: we made an extensive survey and will send it next week
13:28:49 [jrvosse]
action: Vassilis send a list of standards to the list
13:30:03 [jrvosse]
Vassilis: DFKI also did work on MPEG-7 and are willing to contribute
13:31:15 [raphael]
http://www.dfki.uni-kl.de/~sintek/
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Michael Sintek
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Jeff: I sent a email to Michael Sintek from DFKI
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Giorgos: they could work on the 2nd deliverable
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action: Jeff to send Michael Sintek another mail
13:34:59 [jrvosse]
Raphael will not have time in the next two weeks
13:35:14 [jrvosse]
Chris: I could do some work
13:35:28 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: Please work on the 2nd one if you have time
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action: Chris to work on the EXIF issues
13:37:12 [jrvosse]
Raphael: Maybe you could find out if there are other tools besides the one from Norman Walsh
13:37:30 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: what about Mark van Assem?
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action: Jacco work on the VRA issues
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Giorgos: Jeff: what did you agree to work on in Galway?
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Raphael: Jeff did have any assignments
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action: Raphael to resend the Galway mail
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action: Giorgos to put placeholders to schedule the work in the deliverable
13:43:14 [jrvosse]
Chris: what is the timeline for the 2nd deliverable
13:43:39 [jrvosse]
Raphael: the optimistic version is to have something at the end of the charter
13:44:18 [jrvosse]
Vassilis: End of february is the planery W3C meeting in Cannes
13:44:53 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: So we should have a first draft to discuss with the rest of the WG
13:44:57 [jrvosse]
Raphael: I agree
13:46:27 [jrvosse]
Vassilis: who is going to the planery meeting?
13:46:37 [jrvosse]
Jacco: do not know yet
13:47:00 [jrvosse]
Jeff: is mid february sufficiently early?
13:47:18 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: this is to give Raphael some more time
13:47:51 [jrvosse]
Giorgos, lets keep the end of jan deadline, at least for NTUA
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NTUA can fill the various slots we promised in Galway
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action: NTUA to fill the various slots promised in Galway before end of Janaury
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action: Giorgos arrange teleconf for monday 23 jan
13:52:02 [jrvosse]
vassilis: paola asked to see the deliverable when ready
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giorgos: paola will forward this to the aceMedia partners
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action: Vassilis send draft to Paola when it is made public
13:54:30 [jrvosse]
vassilis: Should we discuss the multimedia requirement call of paola?
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action: Rapael, Giorgos and Vassilis to talk about this in London and update the task force later
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Jeff: what about Gavin from Adobe?
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action: Jacco to contact Gavin
14:08:51 [jrvosse]
rrsagent, list actions
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
I see 18 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Jacco send Guus request for review and ask to add it to the agenda [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-13-06
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ACTION: Raphael to finish comments from Mike in the next two weeks [2]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-13-40
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Vassilis and Jeff to work also on the deliverable [3]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-15-01
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ACTION: Jacco to ask for another Scientific use case [4]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-16-29
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ACTION: Raphael process Galway notes in the current draft [5]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-21-24
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Giorgos send new VD to the list [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-24-10
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ACTION: Giorgos to add alignment stuff to deliverable [7]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-26-58
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ACTION: Vassilis send a list of standards to the list [8]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-28-49
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ACTION: Jeff to send Michael Sintek another mail [9]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-33-04
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ACTION: Chris to work on the EXIF issues [10]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-36-30
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ACTION: Jacco work on the VRA issues [11]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-38-26
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ACTION: Raphael to resend the Galway mail [12]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-41-26
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ACTION: Giorgos to put placeholders to schedule the work in the deliverable [13]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-42-53
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: NTUA to fill the various slots promised in Galway before end of Janaury [14]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-49-35
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ACTION: Giorgos arrange teleconf for monday 23 jan [15]
14:08:51 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-51-32
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ACTION: Vassilis send draft to Paola when it is made public [16]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T13-53-28
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ACTION: Rapael, Giorgos and Vassilis to talk about this in London and update the task force later [17]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T14-00-48
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ACTION: Jacco to contact Gavin [18]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-irc#T14-08-11
14:09:29 [raphael]
vasillis, about SWAMM, on http://image.ntua.gr/swamm2006/web/programcommittee.html replace also "Fernando Pereira" by "Fernando Perreira" with "rr"
14:10:15 [raphael]
vasillis, about SWAMM, on http://image.ntua.gr/swamm2006/web/programcommittee.html replace also "Fernando Pereira" by "Fernando Perreira" with "rr"
14:11:09 [Zakim]
-Chris
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-Jeff_Pan
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-Raphael
14:11:16 [jrvosse]
Giorgos: meeting closed
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-Jacco
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-Giorgos_Stamou
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rrsagent, draft minutes
14:11:42 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2006/01/04-MMTF-minutes.html jrvosse
14:12:26 [jrvosse]
rrsagent, make logs world-visible
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rrsagent, make minutes world-visible
14:12:33 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes world-visible', jrvosse. Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:12:40 [Zakim]
-Vassilis
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SW_BPD(MM TF)8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Vassilis, Jacco, Giorgos_Stamou, Chris, Raphael, Jeff_Pan
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