Minutes for 13
June 2007 URW3 Meeting
Attendees:
- Fernando Bobillo
- Francis Fung
- Vipul Kashyap
- Mitch Kokar
- Kathryn Laskey
- Ken Laskey
- Matthias Nickles
- Giorgos Stoilos
- Edward Thomas
- Peter Vojtas
Agenda:
- Approve minutes from previous meetings
- Review purpose and role of use cases
- Assign people to discuss use cases at future telecons
- Preliminary discussion of Appointment Making use case
- Discuss Mitch uncertainty ontology
- Other business
Scribe: Peter Vojtas
Discussion summary:
Again, there were some logistical problems due to the inability of
European callers to dial in on the Europe numbers. Phone-in to the
Boston, USA number worked, and eventually the European members dialed
in to that number.
- Approve minutes from previous meetings
Minutes from May 23 were approved. A
problem how to generate minutes was discussed. Problems with saving
files created from templates were observed.
- Review purpose and role of use cases
Several attendees pointed to the fact that in use cases (as of today)
it is not visible where uncertainty comes in and how it is used for
inference. The template does not make it clear. Moreover this is a
critical part of the report XG will produce. It would be also helpful
to have the structure of the final report (we should look
at the charter deliverables as the basis for the outline of the final
report).
- Assign people to discuss use cases at future telecons
We have noted that Discovery, User Preference Modeling and Soft
Shopping Agents use cases have a lot in common and will discussed
together in next telecon on June 27. Recommendation and belief fusion
use cases will be discussed in 4 weeks from now.
- Preliminary discussion of Appointment Making use case
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/urw3/wiki/AppointmentMaking
The motivation of this use case is from the original paper of TBL+ in
Scientific American. Many interesting aspect about uncertainty arose
from discussion. It became clear that purpose and role of use cases and
uncertainty ontology play the role. All should think about how to
capture discussion, whether we need a modification of use case
template. Finally, after having few discussions, we can decide how to
structure future discussions.
- Discuss Mitch uncertainty ontology
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/urw3/wiki/UncertaintyOntology
Diagrams at above link were commented by Mitch. Two papers are linked
too, there is a very good book by David Schum called The Evidential
Foundations. One question is whether only Web specific, or Web related
questions of uncertainty have to be discussed or we discuss uncertainty
in general. Different aspects were discussed and time became late, we
agreed to continue over e-mail.
- Other business
Coordination with HCLSIG was proposed.
Action items
- ACTION: Kathy/Ken to modify template and instructions to
get around problem of others saving with ACL line [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/13-urw3-minutes.html#action01]
- ACTION: Kathy/Ken, clean up wiki to create specific place
for general topics that are not use cases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/13-urw3-minutes.html#action02]
- ACTION: Ken - contact Umberto to see if he can support
discussion at next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/13-urw3-minutes.html#action03]
(confirmed by Umberto).
- ACTION: Vipul and Mitch and anyone else who cares to
contribute to uncertainty ontology [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/13-urw3-minutes.html#action04]
- ACTION: Vipul to work w/ Ken/Kathy on coordinating with
HCLSIG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/13-urw3-minutes.html#action05]