18:49:06 RRSAgent has joined #ua 18:49:06 logging to http://www.w3.org/2005/12/15-ua-irc 18:49:20 zakim, list conferences 18:49:20 I see Team_(OSL)1:00PM active 18:49:22 also scheduled at this time is Style_XSL WG()1:00PM 18:51:38 zakim, this will be UAWG 18:51:38 ok, jallan; I see WAI_UAWG()2:00PM scheduled to start in 9 minutes 18:53:44 WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has now started 18:53:51 +Jim_Allan 18:55:06 agenda+ review action items 18:55:30 agenda+ Review issues related to UAAG and SVGT from message http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2005Dec/0021 18:56:15 agenda+ Review of UA:PF coordination meeting [member space http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-pf-minutes.html] 18:56:37 agenda+ SVG (embedded object) related topic: Scenario: have a page with embedded svg, user cannot focus on svg in browser using the keyboard (svg object is not focusable), so user cannot use any commands or functions available within svg object. 19:01:32 +DPoehlman 19:02:00 Hi Dave, waiting on Jan 19:05:17 +Jan_Richards 19:05:49 JR has joined #ua 19:10:36 DP: SVG though alt text issue belongs to uaag, actually it is wcag issue... 19:11:01 DP: since then they say they have put in note and pointer to wcag 19:11:27 DP: lots of stuff on keyboard nav that we may want to talk about Appendix F 19:13:03 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2005Dec/0021 19:13:15 DP: Dev Ind. is wrestlingwith navigation issues. 19:13:50 DP: Need for a req for appropriate labelling that would work in any circumstance... 19:17:39 DP: Roadmap can provide some answers... 19:18:12 DP: Also new WG, Web app ui's or something...just starting 19:18:54 JA: UAAG GL6 does cover embedded content of different types - in plugins etc. 19:19:09 dpoehlman has joined #ua 19:19:43 JA: Clearly support for some of this broken. (e.g. getting into SVG and navigating with keyboard) 19:20:27 JA: We need more browser people. 19:20:41 DP: PF has browser people... 19:22:10 JA: ok, please bring that issue of getting into embedded content to pf 19:23:55 action DP: bring svg nav in browser issue to pf 19:24:46 re: Open: DP to cue 2 issues to xtech hidden/visible, and second is escape from 19:24:46 container 19:25:00 DP: send to pf as 2 issues, numbered 1 and 2 19:25:44 DP:Will go on issues list this week...not sure when to be addressed 19:26:50 http://www.w3.org/2005/12/01-ua-minutes.html#action02 done 19:27:41 close action http://www.w3.org/2005/12/01-ua-minutes.html#action02 19:29:49 3. Review of UA:PF coordination meeting [member space 19:29:49 http://www.w3.org/2005/12/06-pf-minutes.html] 19:30:09 JA: AG was going to ask DP to do some work... 19:30:42 DP: I will post issues to discussion list, but Lisa will log issues in Issues List 19:32:12 action JA: review uaag archives related to passing keyboard control to objects and getting it back again 19:34:04 JA: Have you looked into ability to remap accesskeys? 19:34:33 DP: Yes but in SR it only maps SR keys not for browser. 19:35:31 DP: Not always sure what accesskeys are going to do. 19:35:54 DP: Looks like accesskeys may be on the way out. 19:37:02 DP: Idea is to have browsers pick accesskeys 19:37:30 DP: Jaws has a speak access keys feature. 19:37:45 DP: Safrai might not do anything at all. 19:38:32 DP: Safari makes up with great structure nav 19:38:53 JA: Next meeting Jan 5 19:39:21 JA: Still meetings every 2 weeks. 19:39:28 DP: Will there be a 2.0? 19:39:32 JA: any need? 19:40:53 JR: Any obsolecence 19:41:08 DP: Wasn't there conformance to go through CR? 19:41:31 DP: Conformanc eto each checkpoint, but not to guidelines as a whole 19:42:43 JA: We do need to do a formal review of WCAG. 19:43:00 JA: They are hoping to go last call in March. 19:49:13 JR: describes ATAG content-type specific benchmark doc 19:49:36 DP: Would like to get a better mapping between uaag and atag 19:56:32 JA: There are some serious interoperability issues. 19:58:21 -DPoehlman 19:58:22 -Jan_Richards 19:58:25 -Jim_Allan 19:58:26 WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has ended 19:58:27 Attendees were Jim_Allan, DPoehlman, Jan_Richards 19:59:27 zakim, clear agenda 19:59:27 agenda cleared 20:00:05 dpoehlman has left #ua 20:00:13 rrsagent, set logs world-visible 20:00:51 rrsagent, format minutes 20:00:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/12/15-ua-minutes.html jallan 20:01:59 rrsagent, bye 20:01:59 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/15-ua-actions.rdf : 20:01:59 ACTION: DP to bring svg nav in browser issue to pf [1] 20:01:59 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/15-ua-irc#T19-23-55 20:01:59 ACTION: JA to review uaag archives related to passing keyboard control to objects and getting it back again [2] 20:01:59 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/12/15-ua-irc#T19-32-12