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14:31:02 <kendallclark> including me :>
14:31:07 <DanC_lap> agenda + convene (or cancel), take roll, review records and agenda
14:31:14 <Zakim> +Guus_Schreiber
14:31:27 <kendallclark> I think there were at least 3 sparql talks proposed, and the one they accepted seemed odd (to be the only one, I mean)
14:31:38 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
14:31:44 <LeeF> Zakim, [IBMCambridge] is LeeF
14:31:44 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
14:32:26 <jeen> Zakim, Guus_Schreiber is JeenB
14:32:26 <Zakim> +JeenB; got it
14:32:51 <DanC_lap> agenda + toward updated SPARQL QL WD
14:32:59 <DanC_lap> agenda + issues#rdfSemantics
14:33:08 <DanC_lap> agenda + decimal vs float for 0.3
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14:33:23 <DanC_lap> agenda + decimal vs float for 0.3 (DATATYPE test case thread)
14:33:26 <DanC_lap> phpht
14:33:31 <Zakim> +EricP
14:33:36 <afs_> me having wireless iffy-ness
14:33:45 <DanC_lap> agenda 5 = issues#valueTesting (DATATYPE test case thread)
14:34:14 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
14:34:14 <DanC_lap> zakim, take up item 1
14:34:15 <Zakim> agendum 1. "convene (or cancel), take roll, review records and agenda" taken up [from DanC_lap]
14:34:21 <DanC_lap> Zakim, who's on the phone?
14:34:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kendall_Clark, AndyS, Libby_Miller, JeenB, LeeF, EricP, [IBMCambridge]
14:35:06 <DanC_lap> Jeen, is protocol testing update worth time on the agenda?
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14:35:38 <jeen> not really, virtually no progress on that, unfortunately.
14:35:51 <EliasT> Zakim, who's on the phone?
14:35:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kendall_Clark, AndyS, Libby_Miller, JeenB, LeeF, EricP, [IBMCambridge]
14:35:58 <EliasT> Zakim, IBMCambridge is EliasT
14:35:58 <Zakim> +EliasT; got it
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14:36:30 <DanC_lap> checking calendar, we've got to decide today if we're going to publish before the AC meeting. hmm.
14:37:04 <ericP> ericP has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005OctDec/0223
14:37:19 <ericP> ericP has changed the topic to: DAWG meeting, agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005OctDec/0223
14:37:40 <ericP> RRSAgent, you here?
14:37:40 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'you here'
14:37:51 <ericP> Meeting: DAWG
14:38:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:38:26 <SteveH> Zakim, IPcaller is SteveH
14:38:26 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
14:38:27 <ericP> Scribe: EliasT
14:38:28 <DanC_lap> Zakim, passcode?
14:38:28 <Zakim> the conference code is 7333 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), DanC_lap
14:38:41 <Zakim> +PatH
14:38:43 <kendallclark> Hey, "they" misspelled my name for a year ;>
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14:39:10 <ericP> last meeting minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005OctDec/0193.html
14:39:29 <ericP> as amended by http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005OctDec/0198.html
14:39:43 <Zakim> + +1.404.659.aaaa
14:39:51 <DanC_lap> Zakim, aaaa is DanC
14:39:51 <Zakim> +DanC; got it
14:39:59 <ericP> PROPOSED: accept http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005OctDec/0193 and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005OctDec/0198 as a true record
14:40:08 <ericP> APPROVED
14:40:56 <DanC_lap> Zakim, who's on the phone?
14:40:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kendall_Clark, AndyS, Libby_Miller, JeenB, LeeF, EricP, EliasT, SteveH, PatH, DanC
14:41:11 <ericP> next meeting: 22 november
14:41:18 <DanC_lap> partial regrets andys for 22 nov
14:41:22 <ericP> next meeting scribe: KendallC
14:41:36 <patH> Today I need to leave in about an hour from now.
14:41:54 <SteveH> i have probably regrests for next week, il be at wise2005
14:42:35 <DanC_lap> Zakim, take up item decimal
14:42:35 <Zakim> agendum 4. "decimal vs float for 0.3" taken up [from DanC_lap]
14:43:52 <Zakim> -SteveH
14:44:23 <Zakim> +??P9
14:44:30 <JanneS> Zakim, P9 is JanneS
14:44:30 <Zakim> sorry, JanneS, I do not recognize a party named 'P9'
14:44:37 <JanneS> Zakim, ??P9 is JanneS
14:44:37 <Zakim> +JanneS; got it
14:45:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:45:18 <SteveH> Zakim, IPcaller is SteveH
14:45:18 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
14:46:02 <ericP> http://unagi/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#QTSynLiterals
14:46:43 <ericP> [[
14:46:45 <ericP> floating point numbers can also be directly written and are interpreted as xsd:double.
14:46:48 <ericP> ]]
14:47:03 <EliasT> Most are in favor of decimal as opposed to float. There were no objections for decimal.
14:49:26 <EliasT> SteveH: points out that Turtle uses float.
14:49:34 <SteveH> double
14:50:12 <ericP> PROPOSED: change dataytpe for SPARQL floating point numerics to xsd:decimal contingent on a similar change in Turtle.
14:50:26 <DanC_lap> in particular, Beckett's agreement
14:50:33 <ericP> APPROVED -- no objections, no abstentions
14:50:58 <DanC_lap> ACTION DanC: ask DaveB about turtle
14:51:25 <AndyS> ACTION AndyS: update rq23 to reflect double => decimal
14:51:26 <EliasT> ACTION AndyS: to change spec to reflect decimal.
14:51:27 <DanC_lap> Zakim, take up item valueT
14:51:27 <Zakim> agendum 5. "issues#valueTesting (DATATYPE test case thread)" taken up
14:51:58 <AndyS> (section 2.1.2, grammar, example in sec 3, check rest esp sec 11)
14:52:16 <DanC_lap> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005OctDec/0215.html return type of DATATYPE
14:54:08 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-rdf-concepts-20040210/#dfn-typed-literal
15:01:29 <DanC_lap> oops! s/xsd:Datatype/rdfs:Datatype/
15:04:21 <EliasT> ericP: DATATYPE returns the datatype not the name of the datatype.
15:05:06 <kendallclark> zakim, mute me
15:05:06 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should now be muted
15:05:17 <EliasT> ericP: i.e. DATATYPE() returns xsd:integer as opposed to "http://....#integer"^^xsd:anyURI
15:14:22 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath20/#id-ebv
15:14:38 <kendallclark> hmm, for $10 I could fake a seizure  after unmuting myself... Would that do it?
15:15:05 <kendallclark> tough crowd!
15:15:16 <EliasT> I'll give you $5
15:15:21 <kendallclark> I could describe the details of my dr's appointment... :>
15:16:36 <AndyS> filter(<xsd:string>)
15:16:49 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery/#dt-ebv [[
15:17:05 <ericP> Under certain circumstances (listed below), it is necessary to find the effective boolean value of a value. [Definition: The effective boolean value of a value is defined as the result of applying the fn:boolean function to the value, as defined in [XQuery 1.0 and XPath 2.0 Functions and Operators].]
15:17:10 <ericP> ]]
15:18:14 <AndyS> fn:boolean() is not xsd:boolean cast
15:19:19 <ericP> FILTER DATATYPE(?a)
15:19:43 <ericP> ?a => "asdf"^^jkl:qewr
15:20:44 <kendallclark> -sigh-
15:21:33 <ericP> ?a => "asdf"^^xsd:string
15:22:24 <ericP> FILTER DATATYPE(?a)
15:22:46 <DanC_lap> (in the interest of time, I'm inclined to re-open valueTesting, note that in the document (status), and move this meeting on to the publication question)
15:23:00 <SteveH> zakim, mute me
15:23:00 <Zakim> SteveH should now be muted
15:25:22 <patH> is kendall still breathing? 
15:26:08 <kendallclark> YES
15:26:19 <kendallclark> zakim, unmute me
15:26:19 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted
15:26:30 <AndyS> EricP - more after this call?
15:26:30 <patH> phew, thats a relief. 
15:26:36 <kendallclark> :>
15:27:08 <kendallclark> I'm fine w/ publishing w/out more eyeballs on it.
15:27:39 <DanC_lap> PROPOSED: to publish 1.538 + EBV/valueTesting note, plus rdfs:Datatype/DATATYPE change in table, ...
15:27:55 <DanC_lap> PROPOSED: to publish 1.538 + EBV/valueTesting note, plus rdfs:Datatype/DATATYPE change in table, DATATYPE("abc")=string? note
15:28:13 <DanC_lap> PROPOSED: to publish 1.538 + EBV/valueTesting note, plus rdfs:Datatype/DATATYPE change in table, DATATYPE("abc")=string? note, plus, we hope, edited changelog by DanC
15:28:49 <DanC_lap> so RESOLVED.
15:29:27 <EliasT> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
15:29:33 <kendallclark> zakim, mut eme
15:29:33 <Zakim> I don't understand 'mut eme', kendallclark
15:29:37 <kendallclark> zakim, mute me
15:29:37 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should now be muted
15:29:45 <EliasT> RRSAgent, pointer?
15:29:45 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2005/11/15-dawg-irc#T15-29-45
15:30:20 <Zakim> -Kendall_Clark
15:30:41 <Zakim> +Kendall_Clark
15:31:19 <AndyS> <_:label>
15:31:42 <EliasT> RRSAgent, draft minutes please
15:31:42 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minutes please', EliasT.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:31:48 <EliasT> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:31:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/11/15-dawg-minutes.html EliasT
15:34:37 <kendallclark> not in foaf
15:35:04 <Zakim> +??P26
15:36:11 <SteveH> my code does it currently
15:36:25 <SteveH> zakim, unmute me
15:36:25 <Zakim> SteveH should no longer be muted
15:36:45 <SteveH> <_:foo>
15:36:50 <AndyS> :-)
15:37:22 <Zakim> -Kendall_Clark
15:37:24 <AndyS> <(-:label> !!
15:40:59 <Zakim> -DanC
15:41:15 <Zakim> -Libby_Miller
15:41:16 <SteveH> bye
15:41:23 <Zakim> -SteveH
15:41:29 <AndyS> Bye
15:41:41 <Zakim> -JeenB
15:42:07 <jeen> bye folks
15:42:52 <Zakim> -EliasT
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15:47:30 <JanneS> ciao for today
15:47:34 <Zakim> -JanneS
15:53:53 <Zakim> -PatH
15:54:47 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-operators/#func-boolean
15:56:26 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery/#dt-ebv
16:04:12 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#ebv
16:04:32 <libby> a duel of urls!
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16:24:33 <ericP> http://unagi/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#func-str
16:25:22 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#func-str
16:32:34 <Zakim> -??P26
16:35:09 <Zakim> -AndyS
16:35:12 <Zakim> -EricP
16:35:25 <ericP> zakim, who is here?
16:35:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see LeeF
16:35:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see DanC_lap, SteveH, RRSAgent, Zakim, LeeF, libby, afs, ericP, DanC
16:35:50 <LeeF> oh, whoops
16:35:53 <Zakim> -LeeF
16:35:54 <Zakim> SW_DAWG()9:30AM has ended
16:35:55 <Zakim> Attendees were Kendall_Clark, AndyS, Libby_Miller, LeeF, JeenB, EricP, EliasT, SteveH, PatH, +1.404.659.aaaa, DanC, JanneS
16:36:46 <libby> oops :)
16:40:07 <ericP> np LeeF, glad you've tacitly agreed to those 50 action items