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19:42:33 <Zakim> ok, mnot; I see WS_AddrWG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 18 minutes
19:42:43 <mnot> Meeting: Web Services Addressing WG Teleconference
19:42:48 <mnot> Chair: Mark Nottingham
19:43:11 <mnot> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/32DE661A-41B6-4DD0-BC8E-6CB16BF05D78@bea.com
19:43:52 <mnot> Scribe: hugo
19:43:59 <mnot> Scribe: Hugo Haas
19:44:03 <mnot> ScribeNick: hugo
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20:04:44 <hugo> Topic: Agenda review, AOB
20:04:51 <Zakim> +pauld
20:04:56 <pauld> zakim, mute me
20:04:56 <Zakim> pauld should now be muted
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20:05:14 <Zakim> +Anish
20:05:31 <hugo> Jonathan: I sent a new proposal for i064
20:05:45 <hugo> Mark: we'll take this up in this call
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20:06:23 <hugo> Jonathan: I sent a couple of issues that are not on the issues list
20:06:30 <MSEder> zakim,mute me
20:06:30 <Zakim> MSEder should now be muted
20:06:53 <hugo> Mark: one is on the issues list, and the other one was a typo and it was dispatched to Marc
20:07:17 <hugo> Topic: Call for corrections to the minutes
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20:07:42 <hugo> Umit: I would like more time to review the minutes
20:07:54 <hugo> Mark: we'll approve them next week then
20:08:12 <hugo> Topic: Review action items
20:08:35 <hugo> ACTION: Marc Hadley to incorporate namespace policy into drafts and RDDL. [PENDING]
20:08:49 <hugo> DONE ACTION: Arun Gupta to iterate his testing document to categorize and reformat. Due 2005-10-10.
20:09:11 <hugo> ACTION: Editors to ensure we meet our charter with regard to backward compatibility warnings for WSDL 1.1, aligning it with the direction we took for SOAP 1.1 [PENDING]
20:09:26 <hugo> DONE ACTION: Jonathan Marsh to formulate a proposal for a migration guide.
20:09:32 <hugo> Topic: WSDL Responses
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20:09:57 <hugo> Mark: it seems that the Group is happy with our comments
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20:10:02 <abbie> hi, can u please add me for the roll call
20:10:28 <hugo> Jonathan: no, there was no pushback
20:10:49 <Zakim> +??P7
20:11:01 <yinleng> zakim, ??P7 is me
20:11:03 <Zakim> +yinleng; got it
20:11:09 <pauld> zakim, unmute me
20:11:09 <Zakim> pauld should no longer be muted
20:11:13 <pauld> zakim, mute me
20:11:13 <Zakim> pauld should now be muted
20:11:20 <Zakim> +Abbie_Barbir
20:11:25 <hugo> Hugo: what's the status of our discussion about wsoap:action granularity?
20:11:37 <hugo> Jonathan: we haven't made a decision yet
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20:12:12 <hugo> Hugo: in case we don't adopt this proposal, we should make this WG aware of it
20:12:29 <hugo> Topic: Proposed: When, if ever, MUST action be used for dispatch?
20:12:36 <hugo> http://www.w3.org/mid/433D6C7E.2070002@tibco.com
20:12:39 <pauld> zakim , who is here?
20:12:48 <pauld> zakim, who is here?
20:12:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steve, Gilbert_Pilz, Rebecca_Bergersen, Vikas_Deolaliker, MarkN, Arun, TonyR, Mark_Little, Jonathan_Marsh, Tom_Rutt, Marc_Hadley, Bob_Freund,
20:12:51 <Zakim> ... Mark_Peel/Katy_Warr, Mark_Peel.a, Hugo, Nilo, MSEder (muted), ??P12, Umit_Yalcinalp, pauld (muted), Anish, Prasad_Yendluri, yinleng, Abbie_Barbir
20:12:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see swinkler, abbie, yinleng, prasad, MSEder, uyalcina, anish, bob, gpilz, vikas, pauld, mlpeel, TonyR, Katy, Arun, TomRutt, RebeccaB, marc, Marsh, RRSAgent, Zakim, mnot,
20:12:57 <Zakim> ... hugo
20:14:50 <hugo> [ DaveH goes over his proposed issue ]
20:15:05 <pauld> q+
20:16:02 <hugo> Hugo: I thought we had agreed not to talk about dispatching in the spec
20:16:14 <hugo> DaveH: in that case, we should maybe be a little more explicit
20:16:28 <hugo> ... I find this sentence in our spec very vague
20:16:44 <mnot> ack anish
20:16:47 <mnot> ack hugo
20:17:01 <hugo> ... I'm happy with not getting into dispatching in the core, but the SOAP bining may be different in that regards
20:17:07 <pauld> zakim, unmute me
20:17:07 <Zakim> pauld should no longer be muted
20:17:11 <mnot> ack paul
20:17:16 <hugo> ... we're not really taking on dispatching, but we're implying we are
20:17:38 <hugo> Paul: it seems to me that you're talking about what WSDL does with the message
20:18:18 <hugo> DaveH: my assumption about the outbound side is that the value of action will be used in outgoing messages
20:19:08 <hugo> Paul: I don't think we should consider SOAP+WSDL as a big lump when it comes to action
20:19:21 <Zakim> -yinleng
20:19:59 <Zakim> +??P7
20:20:03 <hugo> DaveH: we say action is mandatory, but we don't say what it means
20:20:14 <yinleng> zakim, ??P7 is me
20:20:14 <Zakim> +yinleng; got it
20:20:24 <pauld> zakim, mute me
20:20:24 <Zakim> pauld should now be muted
20:21:58 <hugo> Hugo: action identifies the semantics of the message, and it is possible to have identical actions for multiple messages in the same operation if they have the same meaning
20:22:19 <hugo> i/Hugo:/... how about its meaning, uniqueness, etc.
20:23:02 <hugo> Mark: do people want to see this on our issues list?
20:23:22 <hugo> Jonathan: it doesn't seem to harm
20:23:25 <uyalcina> +1 to Marc Hadley
20:23:36 <hugo> Marc: I'd like to understand how the current draft is broken
20:25:00 <hugo> DaveH: nowhere in this spec do we ever define what dispatching off of action means
20:25:15 <uyalcina> q+
20:25:20 <hugo> Marc: I don't think we should go there
20:26:05 <pauld> WSDL position on dispatching is a rather unhappy compromise resulting from a lot of discussion and a minority opinion or two
20:26:06 <hugo> Mark: we talked about raising the bar for accepting as issue
20:26:07 <RebeccaB> +1 to Marc's position that we don't need to go there
20:26:26 <hugo> ... I would like to have issues seconded by somebody
20:26:37 <mnot> ack uyal
20:26:41 <hugo> ... does somebody want to second this issue?
20:27:33 <hugo> Umit: given the history in WSDL, I don't think we should talk about this issue
20:27:53 <hugo> RESOLUTION: proposed issue not accepted in the issues list
20:28:06 <mnot> http://www.w3.org/mid/37D0366A39A9044286B2783EB4C3C4E831ED79@RED-MSG-10.redmond.corp.microsoft.com
20:28:19 <hugo> i/http/Topic: UsingAddressing with other bindings than our SOAP binding.
20:29:07 <hugo> [ Jonathan describes the issue ]
20:30:10 <mnot> Minutes of i021 decision: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/5/04/20-ws-addr-minutes.html#item05
20:30:18 <hugo> Mark: my concern is that we may be reopening a previous issue (i021)
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20:32:42 <hugo> ... it's not clear that an explicit decision was made at the time
20:33:12 <Zakim> -Mark_Little
20:33:19 <hugo> Hugo: I thought we considered wsoap:module, but ended up with UsingAddressing because we wanted to go beyond SOAP
20:33:27 <hugo> ... is that what we want to reconsider?
20:33:54 <hugo> Mark: my recollection is that we wanted to have a cross-WSDL versions mechanism
20:34:23 <hugo> Marc: I think the minutes are pretty clear about defining UsingAddressing beyond SOAP
20:34:40 <hugo> Jonathan: so how would you use it beyond SOAP?
20:35:11 <hugo> Rebecca: how about if you use multiple bindings, e.g. multiple ports with different bindings?
20:36:24 <hugo> Marc: does that mean that you want to highlight the use Addressing for our SOAP binding regardless of the underlying protocol?
20:36:29 <hugo> Jonathan: yes
20:36:49 <hugo> Marc: I think that we have some mentions of SOAPAction that may be HTTP specific
20:37:11 <hugo> Jonathan: I'm assuming that it's only applying to cases when SOAPAction makes sense
20:38:02 <hugo> ... if we leave it the way it is, it's not clear with WS-A binding is in use
20:38:22 <hugo> Mark: is that a lie down on the road issue for you?
20:38:43 <hugo> Jonathan: no, it's a spec consistency issue
20:38:51 <mnot> ack hugo
20:39:21 <uyalcina> it is implicit in the context
20:40:41 <hugo> Hugo: have you considered using having a marker for specifying what exact binding is in use?
20:41:10 <hugo> Jonathan: no, I think that you can do that in WSDL in already, so we don't need to architect an extensibility point here
20:41:11 <marc> the location of UsingAddressing extension in the WSDL gives the necessary context to determine th ebinding in use
20:41:45 <hugo> Mark: anyone seconding this issue?
20:41:50 <hugo> [ silence ]
20:41:55 <hugo> RESOLUTION: proposed issue not accepted in the issues list
20:42:39 <hugo> Topic: Propose: What to do when SOAPAction and Default Action Pattern conflict?
20:42:45 <hugo> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing/2005Oct/0027.html
20:42:45 <mnot> http://www.w3.org/mid/OF6F7462C5.C2E3A435-ON80257090.006FAE6C-80257090.00715FDC@uk.ibm.com
20:44:47 <hugo> Marc: I'd like to think about it more
20:45:06 <hugo> ... it looks like a backwards compatibility feature
20:45:09 <anish> q+
20:45:17 <mnot> ack anish
20:45:23 <hugo> ... but it may complicate the defaulting rules
20:45:32 <uyalcina> I prefer getting this into the issues list
20:45:54 <hugo> Anish: I think we can put it on the issues list
20:46:01 <uyalcina> lets discuss next week
20:46:04 <hugo> ... I am seconding it
20:46:38 <hugo> RESOLUTION: Issue added to the issues list
20:47:00 <hugo> Topic: Migration of @Action from WS-A 200408 to WS-A 1.0 [i064]
20:47:10 <hugo> New proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing/2005Oct/0028.html
20:48:32 <hugo> Mark: are people comfortable with this new text or do they want more time?
20:48:41 <hugo> Anish, Hugo: we're OK
20:49:28 <hugo> Marc: what's the point of the last paragraph?
20:49:50 <hugo> Jonathan: letting people know that they may want to go and fix their action values
20:50:44 <hugo> Marc: I'm OK to aprove it now
20:50:55 <hugo> Mark: any objection to this proposal?
20:51:09 <hugo> [ silence ]
20:51:38 <hugo> RESOLUTION: i064 closed and resolved as proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing/2005Oct/0028.html
20:51:49 <hugo> Topic: cr6 - wsa:InvalidAddress: redundancy and wsa:ProblemIRI error
20:51:57 <hugo> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing-comments/2005Sep/0004
20:54:31 <hugo> [ Hugo summarizes where we're at ]
20:54:37 <Marsh> +1 if it'sn not substantial
20:54:53 <hugo> Mark: we wanted to make sure the proposal wasn't a substantial change
20:55:02 <hugo> Tony: I agree it isn't
20:55:30 <hugo> RESOLUTION: cr6 closed and resolved with http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing-comments/2005Sep/0004
20:55:43 <hugo> [ nobody objected to this resolution ]
20:55:56 <hugo> Topic: cr8 - SOAPAction
20:56:31 <anish> q+
20:56:37 <hugo> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing-comments/2005Oct/0000
20:57:21 <hugo> Anish: if we have quotes in an HTTP header, are the quotes significant?
20:57:32 <hugo> Mark: it's specified per header 
20:58:01 <hugo> Marc: I'd like to go and check the media type definition
20:58:11 <hugo> ACTION: Marc to come up with a proposal for cr8
20:58:28 <hugo> Topic: CR Testing
20:58:46 <mnot> http://www.w3.org/mid/434703A4.6070401@sun.com
20:59:17 <hugo> CR test cases: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-addressing/2005Oct/att-0018/CR_TestCases.html
20:59:38 <hugo> [ Arun introduces the document ]
21:02:04 <pauld> zakim, unmute me
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21:03:00 <hugo> DaveH: I don't think that test 1 is a valid test as it's not tied to a requirement
21:03:23 <hugo> Paul: I think that a "none" URI identifies a one-way message
21:03:59 <pauld> zakim, mute me
21:03:59 <Zakim> pauld should now be muted
21:04:18 <hugo> DaveH: the "none" sort of turns a req-resp into a one-way
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21:04:21 <mnot> "Messages sent to EPRs whose [address] is this value MUST be discarded (i.e. not sent). This URI is typically used in EPRs that designate a reply or fault endpoint (see section 3.1 Abstract Property Definitions) to indicate that no reply or fault message should be sent."
21:05:30 <hugo> Marc: could we have an endpoint which always generates faults, except when the recipient is the "none" URI
21:05:37 <hugo> s/URI/URI?/
21:05:45 <hugo> DaveH: that's a way indeed
21:07:03 <hugo> Mark: we could have an HTTP transport response, without a SOAP response
21:07:40 <hugo> ... we need to work with keeping in mind that we need to demonstrate features using these tests
21:08:43 <hugo> Marc: the way I saw this is that you'd better use "none" in a one-way message becouse of the defaulting rule
21:11:07 <hugo> Arun: so we're not going to do the the 1&2 sub-bullets as specified; we're going to use a request-response with a "none" URI which will degenerate into a one-way
21:11:25 <hugo> -- 2. Endpoint Reference Infoset Representation (2.2) - REQUIRED
21:11:41 <Zakim> -Abbie_Barbir
21:11:46 <hugo> i/DaveH: I don't think that/-- 1. "none" URI (2.1) - REQUIRED/
21:11:58 <hugo> RRSAgent, make log public
21:12:02 <hugo> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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21:12:56 <hugo> Mark: this seems to be a behovioral text of a reply
21:13:12 <hugo> Arun: we can add more tests about how a FaultTo gets represented
21:14:49 <hugo> Katy: is this text just to test the serialization of an EPR?
21:14:52 <hugo> Mark: yes
21:15:22 <hugo> DaveH: how do you get out the abstract properties from these?
21:15:29 <hugo> Mark: it's implementation specific
21:16:46 <hugo> Arun: I'll add some information about success criteria
21:16:55 <hugo> Mark: we talked about using XPath for this
21:17:05 <hugo> -- 3. Endpoint Reference Extensibility (2.5) - REQUIRED
21:17:31 <pauld> i can build test cases from these, and build XPath expressions to compare, however some complete example messages would be useful
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21:19:35 <hugo> Anish: if the test doesn't define what these extensions mean, how do we know if the receiving end saw them?
21:20:57 <hugo> ... for SOAP 1.2, we had defined a header whose function was to be echo'ed back
21:22:01 <hugo> Mark: could you make some proposals around this?
21:22:34 <hugo> ACTION: Anish to propose meaningful EPR extensions for test 3. Endpoint Reference Extensibility (2.5)
21:24:48 <hugo> Katy: it's not clear what we're testing here: the sending agent or the receiving one?
21:24:59 <hugo> DaveH: I don't think that we could test the client side
21:26:21 <pauld> zakim, unmute me
21:26:22 <Zakim> pauld should no longer be muted
21:26:24 <hugo> Mark: I think that these differences will become more clear when we put those tests into Paul's framework
21:27:21 <pauld> zakim, mute me
21:27:21 <Zakim> pauld should now be muted
21:27:29 <hugo> -- 4. XML Infoset Representation of Message Addressing Properties (3.2)
21:27:57 <hugo> Arun: 2.1. may apply here
21:28:06 <hugo> -- 5. wsa:To defaulting (3.2)
21:29:20 <hugo> [ no comments ]
21:29:30 <hugo> -- 6. wsa:ReplyTo defaulting (3.2)
21:30:26 <hugo> DaveH: in that case, you don't need to talk about the client at all, it's a server test
21:31:09 <hugo> -- 9. Formulating a normal Reply (3.3)
21:32:15 <hugo> Arun: More tests can be added here
21:32:58 <hugo> -- 5. wsa:To defaulting (3.2)
21:33:09 <hugo> [ Going back as requested by Umit ]
21:34:03 <hugo> Umit: you're talking about the reply message here, right?
21:34:07 <hugo> Arun: that's correc
21:34:14 <hugo> s/correc/correct/
21:34:22 <hugo> -- 10. Formulating a Fault Reply (3.3)
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21:35:39 <hugo> s/-- /-- Core /g
21:35:46 <hugo> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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21:36:16 <hugo> Katy: do we need the isRefParam="true" in the EPR?
21:36:35 <hugo> ... there's a typo in sub-bullet 1
21:36:40 <hugo> Arun: thank you
21:37:02 <hugo> -- SOAP 1. SOAP 1.2 Feature interaction with Action (2.4)
21:38:00 <hugo> [ No comments ]
21:38:10 <hugo> -- SOAP 3. SOAP 1.2 Anonymous Address (3.5)
21:39:00 <hugo> [ No comments ]
21:39:15 <hugo> -- SOAP 5. SOAP 1.1 interaction with Action (4.2)
21:40:05 <hugo> [ No comments ]
21:40:17 <hugo> -- SOAP 6. SOAP 1.1 Anonymous Address (3.5)
21:40:43 <hugo> [ No comments ]
21:40:54 <hugo> -- SOAP 8. InvalidAddressingFailure Fault (5, 3.2)
21:41:40 <hugo> [ No comments ]
21:41:49 <dhull> q+
21:42:07 <pauld> zakim, unmute me
21:42:07 <Zakim> pauld should no longer be muted
21:42:12 <hugo> Mark: I think that the next step is for Arun and Paul to integrate those in Paul's framework
21:42:35 <hugo> Paul: we will need messages for inclusion in the framework
21:43:42 <hugo> Mark: I'd like us to identify which features are not tested by those tests
21:44:05 <hugo> ACTION: Paul to take Arun's work and integrate it in his framework with Arun's help
21:44:49 <hugo> Paul: do you think that we have good coverage with those base on the list we discussed in Palo Alto 2 weeks ago?
21:45:36 <hugo> Mark: have you guys changed the spec so that we have a section called creating a message from an EPR?
21:45:43 <hugo> Tony: not yet, but soon
21:46:48 <hugo> Mark: we will be considering Paul's document in the coming weeks to make user we understand it and we have enough tests to test implementation in CR
21:47:06 <pauld> zakim, mute me
21:47:06 <Zakim> pauld should now be muted
21:47:16 <hugo> s/help/help by 2005-10-17/
21:48:00 <hugo> Mark: we have 3 concalls between now and Tokyo
21:48:14 <hugo> ... we're going to continue revising the test doc
21:48:30 <hugo> ... does that seem reasonable?
21:48:36 <hugo> [ silence ]
21:48:39 <Zakim> -Steve
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21:48:41 <Zakim> -Tom_Rutt
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21:48:43 <Zakim> -pauld
21:48:44 <Zakim> -Marc_Hadley
21:48:45 <Zakim> -Arun
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21:48:48 <Zakim> -Anish
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21:48:51 <hugo> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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21:49:04 <Zakim> -Rebecca_Bergersen
21:49:06 <Zakim> -Hugo
21:49:08 <Zakim> -TonyR
21:49:10 <Zakim> -MSEder
21:49:22 <TonyR> TonyR has left #ws-addr
21:49:25 <MSEder> MSEder has left #ws-addr
21:50:08 <hugo> Zakim, who's on the phone?
21:50:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vikas_Deolaliker
21:50:47 <hugo> Zakim, drop Vikas
21:50:47 <Zakim> Vikas_Deolaliker is being disconnected
21:50:48 <Zakim> WS_AddrWG()4:00PM has ended
21:50:50 <Zakim> Attendees were Gilbert_Pilz, Steve, Rebecca_Bergersen, Vikas_Deolaliker, MarkN, Arun, TonyR, Mark_Little, Jonathan_Marsh, Tom_Rutt, Marc_Hadley, Bob_Freund, Mark_Peel/Katy_Warr,
21:50:53 <Zakim> ... Mark_Peel, Hugo, Nilo, MSEder, Umit_Yalcinalp, pauld, Anish, Prasad_Yendluri, yinleng, Abbie_Barbir
21:52:23 <hugo> RRSAgent, draft minutes
21:52:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/10/10-ws-addr-minutes.html hugo
22:59:02 <bob> bob has left #ws-addr