4 Oct 2005


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Sandor, Johannes, Shadi, Chris, Nick, Carlos, Jim


Proposal for Location

SA: Location can be single pointer, range, shadow location, compound (for unstructured)
... todo: figure out composites. one location is for one mapping. several location pointers if there is more than instances
... misuse of compound location a problem?

SA: are there other types of location?

CI: heuristic tests in doc where error not located exactly - can we describe?

SA: probably possible with compound location

CI: case can occur where it's not clear what location type should be used

JL: no problem if we can not always point to the exact problem

SA: ambiguity on the location types, clarify which type to which scenario to use
... will diff developers use different loc types?

<niq> something like line/char or byte-offsets can't hope to correspond exactly over different tools

<niq> see the example in what I posted before: different validators

SA: <nik> ambiguity anyway with respect to line/char byte-offset, etc.

<niq> urls at the bottom of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2005Sep/0012.html

<niq> not big problem, it's the same error

<niq> v.w.o: "Line 10 column 20:"

<niq> valet: "Line 11 char 1"

SA: have to provide good description of how to use line etc.

<niq> htmlhelp: "Line 11 char 2"

CI: problem for e.g. one specific testcase - and not knowing how to handle

SA: tool would expect one of the four locs.

CI: will tools understand error independent of the location types used to describe it

CR: ok

JK: ok

SA: all agree
... earl consuming tools must be able to handle all different loc. types
... next steps, refining classes, properties, etc

<niq> hmmm ....

<niq> will think about it, not sure if I have much to add to earlier discussion

SA: working on everything that belongs to single loc. class?

<shadi> &earl;Line

<niq> ah, that's what you're talkin'bout

SA: e.g. line (domain, range, line col have superclass)

<niq> can give that a try ...

NK: ok

<niq> :-(

<scribe> ACTION: work on sinle location location [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/04-er-minutes.html#action01]


<niq> *and* 'cos chaals disagreed with everyone ...

SA: ruleset part of testcase - special part of testcase?

SA: waiting for charles' responds, continue on later call or f2f
... overall structure of the evidence class: properties to ease queries

SA: what to do with annotated reports - add assertor?

<niq> audit trail for assertions/assertors?

<niq> it's a new assertion - the previous assertion is evidence for the new one, yesno?

JL: modified assertion - more sort of signing the report (outside of the earl model)
... like signature of the file, trusted places, etc.

<niq> talking of trust, should we support pgp-signed reports?

<niq> zigackly

F2F Topics

SA: add evidence

<niq> aob is always the best item

<niq> beer brakes if you please - this is .de!

<JibberJim> Hmm, I wonder if I could get from CGN to the meeting on the monday morning...

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: work on sinle location location [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/10/04-er-minutes.html#action01]
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