IRC log of wai-wcag on 2005-08-11

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RRSagent, stop
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regrets: Doyle Burnett, Luca Mascaro, Andi Snow-Weaver, Roberto Scano, Tim Boland
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RRSagent, stop
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20:01:57 [Zakim]
+??P6
20:02:00 [Zakim]
+??P5
20:02:16 [ben_]
zakim, ??P3 may be Ben_and_Gregg
20:02:16 [Zakim]
+Ben_and_Gregg?; got it
20:02:19 [Zakim]
+??P7
20:02:42 [Zakim]
+Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:02:44 [Zakim]
-??P7
20:02:44 [Makoto]
zakim, ??P4 is Makoto
20:02:44 [Zakim]
+Makoto; got it
20:03:14 [Zakim]
+??P7
20:03:30 [Michael]
zakim, ??P7 is Yvette_Hoitink
20:03:30 [Zakim]
+Yvette_Hoitink; got it
20:03:36 [ben_]
zakim, ??P5 may be Christophe
20:03:36 [Zakim]
+Christophe?; got it
20:03:43 [ben_]
agenda?
20:03:48 [Zakim]
+[IWA-HWG]
20:04:03 [rellero]
zakim, [IWA-HWG] is rellero
20:04:03 [Zakim]
+rellero; got it
20:04:38 [ben_]
zakim, who is here?
20:04:38 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +61.3.988.9.aaaa, Bengt_Farre, Michael_Cooper, Ben_and_Gregg?, Makoto, ??P6, Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, rellero
20:04:41 [Zakim]
On IRC I see rellero, gregg, Michael, Yvette, ben_, Makoto, sebastiano, bengt, Christophe, RRSAgent, Zakim
20:04:41 [Becky]
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20:04:44 [Zakim]
+Becky_Gibson
20:04:46 [Zakim]
-rellero
20:05:15 [sebastiano]
Ciao Roberto :)
20:05:24 [Zakim]
+??P9
20:05:37 [rellero]
04 01zakim, ??P9 is rellero
20:05:46 [ben_]
zakim, 61.3.988.9.aaa is Sophia
20:05:46 [Zakim]
sorry, ben_, I do not recognize a party named '61.3.988.9.aaa'
20:05:48 [rellero]
zakim, P9 is rellero
20:05:48 [Zakim]
sorry, rellero, I do not recognize a party named 'P9'
20:05:57 [Yvette]
zakim, +61 is Sophia_Celic
20:05:57 [Zakim]
+Sophia_Celic; got it
20:06:00 [rellero]
04 01zakim, ??P9 is rellero
20:06:11 [rellero]
ciao seb
20:06:11 [ben_]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:06:11 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre, Michael_Cooper, Ben_and_Gregg?, Makoto, ??P6, Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson, ??P9
20:06:21 [sebastiano]
zakim, who is here?
20:06:21 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre, Michael_Cooper, Ben_and_Gregg?, Makoto, ??P6, Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson, ??P9
20:06:24 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Becky, rellero, gregg, Michael, Yvette, ben_, Makoto, sebastiano, bengt, Christophe, RRSAgent, Zakim
20:06:39 [Michael]
zakim, ??P9 is Roberto_Ellero
20:06:39 [Zakim]
+Roberto_Ellero; got it
20:06:47 [rellero]
:-)
20:06:59 [Yvette]
zakim, who's making noise?
20:07:10 [Zakim]
Yvette, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Bengt_Farre (48%), Ben_and_Gregg? (5%), Makoto (34%), Christophe? (4%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (19%)
20:07:13 [Zakim]
+??P11
20:07:20 [Makoto]
zakim, mute me
20:07:20 [Zakim]
Makoto should now be muted
20:07:21 [sebastiano]
zakim, who is here?
20:07:21 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre, Michael_Cooper, Ben_and_Gregg?, Makoto (muted), ??P6 (muted), Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson,
20:07:24 [Zakim]
... Roberto_Ellero, ??P11
20:07:25 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Becky, rellero, gregg, Michael, Yvette, ben_, Makoto, sebastiano, bengt, Christophe, RRSAgent, Zakim
20:07:28 [ben_]
zakim, ??P11 is Andi
20:07:28 [Zakim]
+Andi; got it
20:07:28 [bengt]
zakim mute me
20:07:42 [bengt]
zakim, I am Bengt_Farre
20:07:42 [Zakim]
ok, bengt, I now associate you with Bengt_Farre
20:07:44 [Yvette]
zakim, mute bengt
20:07:45 [Zakim]
Bengt_Farre should now be muted
20:07:52 [Yvette]
zakim, who's making noise?
20:07:53 [bengt]
better ?
20:07:59 [Yvette]
nope :-(
20:08:06 [Yvette]
but it might be my bad connection
20:08:07 [Zakim]
Yvette, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ben_and_Gregg? (3%)
20:08:13 [bengt]
then it wasnt me zakim is strange
20:08:16 [sebastiano]
zakim mute me
20:08:20 [ben_]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:08:20 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre (muted), Michael_Cooper, Ben_and_Gregg?, Makoto (muted), ??P6, Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson,
20:08:23 [Zakim]
... Roberto_Ellero, Andi
20:09:01 [bengt]
zakim, who is making noise ?
20:09:13 [Zakim]
bengt, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ben_and_Gregg? (24%), Yvette_Hoitink (25%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (30%)
20:09:25 [Michael]
no
20:09:34 [Zakim]
+Wendy
20:09:40 [ben_]
zakim, who is muted
20:09:40 [Zakim]
ben_, you need to end that query with '?'
20:09:47 [ben_]
zakim, who is muted?
20:09:47 [Zakim]
I see Bengt_Farre, Makoto muted
20:09:47 [bengt]
makoto
20:10:09 [bengt]
I called in as nr 2
20:10:15 [sebastiano]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:10:15 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre (muted), Michael_Cooper, Ben_and_Gregg?, Makoto, ??P6, Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson, Roberto_Ellero,
20:10:18 [Zakim]
... Andi, Wendy
20:10:21 [ben_]
zakim, Makoto is Ben_and_Gregg
20:10:21 [Zakim]
+Ben_and_Gregg; got it
20:10:28 [ben_]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:10:28 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre (muted), Michael_Cooper, Ben_and_Gregg?, Ben_and_Gregg, ??P6, Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson,
20:10:31 [Zakim]
... Roberto_Ellero, Andi, Wendy
20:10:43 [ben_]
zakim, Ben_and_Gregg? may be Makoto
20:10:45 [Zakim]
+Makoto?; got it
20:10:59 [ben_]
zakim, who is on the phone
20:10:59 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is on the phone', ben_
20:11:06 [ben_]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:11:06 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre (muted), Michael_Cooper, Makoto?, Ben_and_Gregg, ??P6 (muted), Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson,
20:11:10 [Zakim]
... Roberto_Ellero, Andi, Wendy
20:11:42 [bengt]
p6 is makoro
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20:11:47 [bengt]
p6 is makoto
20:12:06 [wendy]
zakim, who's muted?
20:12:06 [Zakim]
I see Bengt_Farre muted
20:12:20 [sebastiano]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:12:20 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre (muted), Michael_Cooper, Makoto?, Ben_and_Gregg, ??P6, Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson, Roberto_Ellero,
20:12:23 [Zakim]
... Andi, Wendy
20:12:29 [Michael]
zakim, ??P6 may be Sebastiano
20:12:29 [Zakim]
+Sebastiano?; got it
20:12:34 [ben_]
zakim, ??P6 may be Christophe
20:12:34 [Zakim]
I already had ??P6 as Sebastiano?, ben_
20:12:41 [sebastiano]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:12:41 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre (muted), Michael_Cooper, Makoto?, Ben_and_Gregg, Sebastiano?, Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Becky_Gibson,
20:12:43 [wendy]
Topic: TTF update
20:12:44 [Zakim]
... Roberto_Ellero, Andi, Wendy
20:12:51 [Yvette]
zakim, mute me
20:12:51 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
20:13:27 [wendy]
Becky? can you scribe the first hour today?
20:13:43 [sebastiano]
zakim, mute me
20:13:43 [Zakim]
Sebastiano? should now be muted
20:14:44 [Andi]
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20:15:39 [wendy]
scribe: wendy
20:15:50 [wendy]
discussed scripts, prioritizing which topics to cover first/before last call
20:15:53 [wendy]
also, how to test
20:15:58 [Zakim]
+Alex_Li
20:15:59 [wendy]
some proposals coming
20:16:04 [wendy]
reviewed some test cases
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+Matt_May
20:16:55 [wendy]
Topic: TTF Work Statement
20:17:00 [sebastiano]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:17:00 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Sophia_Celic, Bengt_Farre (muted), Michael_Cooper, Makoto?, Ben_and_Gregg, Sebastiano? (muted), Christophe?, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink (muted),
20:17:04 [Zakim]
... Becky_Gibson, Roberto_Ellero, Andi, Wendy, Alex_Li, Matt_May
20:17:17 [wendy]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2003/12/wttf.html
20:18:01 [Becky]
scribe: Becky
20:18:38 [wendy]
addition: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0367.html
20:19:24 [Becky]
Resolution: adopt TTF Work statment
20:19:54 [Becky]
with amendment posted by Wendy today (Aug 10)
20:20:32 [ben_]
Topic: Disposition of frame title (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0250.html)
20:20:43 [ben_]
agenda?
20:20:58 [ben_]
agenda+ Priority 3 Mapping Discussion.
20:21:12 [ben_]
agenda+ Priority 2 Mapping Discussion Continued.
20:21:45 [Yvette]
zakim, unmute me
20:21:45 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink should no longer be muted
20:23:41 [ben_]
q+
20:24:16 [joeclark]
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20:24:49 [Zakim]
+David_MacDonald
20:24:50 [Becky]
proposal was to map WCAG 1.0 checkpoing 12.1 to WCAG 2.0 2.4 L1 SC1 and 2.4 L2 SC 4
20:24:59 [Andi]
q+
20:25:23 [wendy]
ack ben
20:25:24 [Becky]
there were issues with this at prev. meeting and small group went off to discuss
20:25:25 [Zakim]
+??P16
20:25:25 [wendy]
ack andi
20:25:46 [Yvette]
zakim, ??P16 is Joe_Clark
20:25:46 [Zakim]
+Joe_Clark; got it
20:25:56 [Yvette]
zakim, joeclark is Joe_Clark
20:25:56 [Zakim]
+Joe_Clark; got it
20:26:24 [Yvette]
q+
20:26:38 [Yvette]
q-
20:26:50 [Zakim]
-David_MacDonald
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20:27:32 [Becky]
suggest new issue: frame title should either be listed as an example of navigation element or programmatically identified needs to mean and identification
20:28:06 [Becky]
of type
20:28:33 [ben_]
agenda?
20:28:40 [ben_]
zakim, take up agendum 1
20:28:40 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Priority 3 Mapping Discussion." taken up [from ben_]
20:28:49 [Yvette]
zakim, mute me
20:28:49 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
20:29:05 [Becky]
resolution: map WCAG 1.0 checkpoing 12.1 to GL 2.4 L1 SC1 and 2.4 L2 SC4
20:33:26 [wendy]
ack lor
20:33:38 [Becky]
Topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 4.2
20:34:37 [Becky]
Resolution: Map WCAG 1.0 CP 4.2 to WCAG 2.0 GL 3.1 L3 SC3
20:35:36 [Becky]
Topic: Mapping WCAG 1.0 CP 4.3 to GL 3.1 L1 SC1
20:35:45 [Becky]
Resolution: accepted above mapping
20:35:45 [wendy]
fyi: mapping results at http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/p3mapping/results
20:36:06 [Michael]
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20:37:02 [Becky]
Topic: Mapping WCAG 1.0 CP 9.4
20:37:40 [Becky]
Resolution: Map WCAG 1.0 9.4 to WCAG 2.0 GL 2.4 L3 SC1
20:38:10 [Becky]
Topic: Mapping WCAG 1.0 CP 9.5
20:39:32 [Yvette]
zakim, unmute me
20:39:32 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink should no longer be muted
20:39:40 [joeclark]
q+
20:40:12 [wendy]
q+ to say "reminder: resolution from last week - resolution: use "deprecated" for things we don't want people to do anymore and "not required" for things that WCAG 2.0 does not require for conformance, but may still appear in advisory"
20:40:38 [Becky]
suggest deprecating or marking as not required or provide as advisory
20:40:54 [wendy]
ack joe
20:41:36 [Becky]
jc: this is valid HTML so we should be careful about deprecating
20:42:04 [Yvette]
q+ to say "have to address because it's in WCAG 1"
20:42:33 [wendy]
ack wendy
20:42:33 [Zakim]
wendy, you wanted to say "reminder: resolution from last week - resolution: use "deprecated" for things we don't want people to do anymore and "not required" for things that WCAG
20:42:36 [Zakim]
... 2.0 does not require for conformance, but may still appear in advisory"
20:42:47 [Yvette]
q-
20:44:39 [Becky]
gv: mappings must be to an entity or advisory item in guidedoc
20:45:42 [wendy]
fyi: use of "deprecated" resolution in last week's minutes - http://www.w3.org/2005/08/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02
20:47:38 [Becky]
resolution: map WCAG 1.0 CP 9.5 to advisory item in GuideDoc and note that it is no longer required
20:47:59 [Becky]
topic: mapping of WCAG 1.0 CP 10.5
20:48:28 [wendy]
q+ to say "bridge ala recent bug"
20:48:54 [Yvette]
q+
20:50:05 [wendy]
ack wendy
20:50:05 [Zakim]
wendy, you wanted to say "bridge ala recent bug"
20:50:17 [wendy]
fyi: andy budd's technique described in - http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1542
20:51:42 [wendy]
currently maps to html "fallback" technique - http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-HTML-TECHS/#fallback-techniques
20:52:11 [wendy]
q+
20:52:18 [Yvette]
ack y
20:52:22 [ben_]
ack wendy
20:52:45 [Yvette]
zakim, who's making noise?
20:52:56 [Zakim]
Yvette, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sophia_Celic (57%), Makoto? (32%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (28%), Becky_Gibson (38%), Andi (4%)
20:54:55 [Makoto]
zakim, mute me
20:54:55 [Zakim]
Makoto? should now be muted
20:57:32 [joeclark]
q+
21:00:05 [ben_]
ack joe
21:02:02 [Michael]
scribe: Michael
21:02:22 [Becky]
Resolution: map WCAG 1.0 CP 10.5 should map to advisory item in Guide doc - with note that no longer needed for user agents but may be useful for cognitive disabilites
21:03:40 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 11.3
21:04:05 [Andi]
q+
21:04:46 [wendy]
ack andi
21:04:57 [joeclark]
q?
21:05:00 [joeclark]
q+
21:06:12 [Yvette]
q+
21:06:26 [gregg]
ack j
21:06:53 [Zakim]
-Joe_Clark.a
21:07:12 [joeclark]
Pleasure as ever, Gregg. I'm going to the supermarket.
21:07:13 [joeclark]
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21:07:55 [Zakim]
+David_MacDonald
21:09:33 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 1.0 CP 11.3 does not map to any WCAG 2.0 SC though certain aspects may map to certain SC or advisory items
21:10:13 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 13.5
21:11:52 [Yvette]
q-
21:11:57 [Michael]
ack L
21:12:39 [ben_]
q+
21:13:09 [Yvette]
q+
21:13:12 [Yvette]
ack ben
21:13:37 [Michael]
ack y
21:15:02 [Zakim]
+??P19
21:15:34 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 2.0 CP 13.5 is not required in WCAG 2.0 by any SC. It is a possible strategy to address 2.4 L2 SC 1
21:15:55 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 13.6
21:15:58 [wendy]
zakim, ??P19 is Kerstin_Goldsmith
21:15:58 [Zakim]
+Kerstin_Goldsmith; got it
21:16:28 [Yvette]
q+
21:17:02 [Michael]
ack y
21:17:52 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 1.0 CP 13.6 maps to WCAG 2.0 SC 2.4 L2 SC 2. Note in WCAG 2.0 it only relates to groups that are repeated on multiple delivery units.
21:18:05 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 13.7
21:18:08 [Zakim]
-Andi
21:20:02 [David]
q+
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21:21:27 [Yvette]
q+ to say "disagree"
21:22:42 [Michael]
ack d
21:23:04 [Michael]
ack y
21:23:04 [Zakim]
Yvette, you wanted to say "disagree"
21:25:22 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 1.0 CP 13.7 does not directly map to any WCAG 2.0 Success Criterion and is not required. Some aspects relate to 2.4 L2 SC 1 and 2.5 L3 SC 2 as well as advisory items in the guide doc.
21:25:43 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 13.8
21:28:27 [Christophe]
q+
21:28:44 [Yvette]
ack c
21:28:55 [Yvette]
zakim, who's muted?
21:28:55 [Zakim]
I see Bengt_Farre, Makoto? muted
21:28:56 [Christophe]
zakim, unmute me
21:28:56 [Zakim]
Christophe? was not muted, Christophe
21:29:10 [Yvette]
zakim, unmute Makoto?
21:29:10 [Zakim]
Makoto? should no longer be muted
21:29:26 [Yvette]
zakim, unmute Bengt_Farre
21:29:26 [Zakim]
Bengt_Farre should no longer be muted
21:29:35 [wendy]
christophe it's 60#
21:29:45 [Yvette]
zakim, mute Bengt_Farre
21:29:45 [Zakim]
Bengt_Farre should now be muted
21:30:10 [Yvette]
q+
21:30:17 [Yvette]
zakim, unmute me
21:30:17 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink was not muted, Yvette
21:30:20 [Michael]
ack y
21:32:17 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 1.0 CP 13.8 is not required by any Success Criterion in WCAG 2.0. May be useful to map to advisory items in the guide doc.
21:32:33 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 13.9
21:34:10 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 1.0 CP 13.9 is not in WCAG 2.0 but does relate to Success Criterion 2.4 L3 SC 2 and would appear in advisory items in the guide doc.
21:34:21 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 13.10
21:38:02 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 1.0 CP 13.10 is not required by any Success Criterion in WCAG 2.0. ASCII art is considered non-text content and would map to an advisory item in the guide doc.
21:38:14 [Michael]
topic: WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 14.2
21:39:36 [Yvette]
q+
21:39:46 [Michael]
ack y
21:41:46 [Yvette]
q+
21:42:15 [Kesh]
can I get the URI for the mapping doc -- cannot find in email just now?
21:42:26 [gregg]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/p3mapping/results
21:42:34 [Kesh]
thanks much!
21:43:17 [ben_]
current draft of the maping document is http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/06/30-mapping.html
21:44:10 [Yvette]
q-
21:44:14 [Yvette]
ack al
21:45:16 [Yvette]
q+
21:46:06 [Michael]
ack l
21:46:48 [Michael]
ack y
21:48:07 [ben_]
q+ to say, "Propose CP 14.2 is one of 3 strategies that can be used to address 3.1 L3 SC5"
21:49:32 [gregg]
ack ben
21:49:32 [Zakim]
ben_, you wanted to say, "Propose CP 14.2 is one of 3 strategies that can be used to address 3.1 L3 SC5"
21:50:14 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 14.2 is not required by any WCAG 2.0 Success Criterion. It is a strategy that can be used to address WCAG 2.0 SC 3.1 L3 SC 5.
21:50:25 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 14.3
21:50:56 [Christophe]
q+ to say, "Can we have a resolution on the meaning of mapping - to be used for next WD?"
21:53:00 [Michael]
resolution: Aspects of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 14.3 are required by WCAG 2.0 Guideline 3.2 L2 SC1, 3.2 L2 SC 4, and 3.2 L3 SC 1. There is no Success Criterion in WCAG 2.0 that is as broad as WCAG 1.0 CP 14.3, so aspects of it do not relate.
21:53:25 [Michael]
topic: Mapping of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 1.5
21:53:29 [Yvette]
zakim, mute me
21:53:29 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink should now be muted
21:54:11 [Yvette]
q+
21:54:17 [Zakim]
-Roberto_Ellero
21:54:57 [Yvette]
zakim, unmute me
21:54:57 [Zakim]
Yvette_Hoitink should no longer be muted
21:55:29 [ben_]
ack Christophe
21:55:29 [Zakim]
Christophe, you wanted to say, "Can we have a resolution on the meaning of mapping - to be used for next WD?"
21:58:14 [Michael]
resolution: Our mapping document should indicate when a WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint is required by WCAG 2.0 and also if a WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint is sufficient to satisfy a WCAG 2.0 Success Criterion. We note if an item appears in advisory information if it is not required.
21:58:33 [Michael]
ack y
21:59:16 [Yvette]
q+ to say "explain that until user agents has been met"
22:00:02 [Michael]
ack y
22:00:03 [Zakim]
Yvette, you wanted to say "explain that until user agents has been met"
22:00:06 [Zakim]
-Alex_Li
22:02:19 [Michael]
resolution: WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 1.5 is not required by any Success Criterion on WCAG 2.0. It might appear as a repair technique in conjunction with an advisory item in the guide doc. Note: this is no longer required because of advances in user agents.
22:04:09 [wendy]
RRSAgent, make log world
22:04:13 [Zakim]
-Kerstin_Goldsmith
22:04:15 [Zakim]
-Michael_Cooper
22:04:15 [Zakim]
-Matt_May
22:04:16 [Zakim]
-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:04:17 [Zakim]
-Becky_Gibson
22:04:18 [Zakim]
-Bengt_Farre
22:04:19 [Zakim]
-Wendy
22:04:21 [Zakim]
-Sophia_Celic
22:04:22 [Zakim]
-Yvette_Hoitink
22:04:24 [Zakim]
-Ben_and_Gregg
22:04:26 [Zakim]
-David_MacDonald
22:04:29 [wendy]
Meeting: WCAG WG telecon
22:04:31 [wendy]
Chair: Gregg
22:04:35 [Zakim]
-Sebastiano?
22:04:44 [wendy]
s/Sophia/Sofia
22:04:55 [wendy]
zakim, who's on the phone?
22:04:55 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Makoto?, Christophe?
22:05:01 [David]
wendy please mark me present, I came late thx
22:05:08 [wendy]
zakim, kick Makoto
22:05:08 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'kick Makoto', wendy
22:05:14 [wendy]
zakim, drop makoto
22:05:14 [Zakim]
Makoto? is being disconnected
22:05:16 [Zakim]
-Makoto?
22:05:20 [wendy]
zakim, drop christophe
22:05:20 [Zakim]
Christophe? is being disconnected
22:05:21 [Zakim]
WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
22:05:22 [Zakim]
Attendees were +61.3.988.9.aaaa, Bengt_Farre, Michael_Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Yvette_Hoitink, Christophe?, rellero, Becky_Gibson, Sophia_Celic, Roberto_Ellero, Andi, Wendy,
22:05:24 [Zakim]
... Ben_and_Gregg, Makoto?, Sebastiano?, Alex_Li, Matt_May, David_MacDonald, Joe_Clark, Kerstin_Goldsmith
22:05:34 [ben_]
ben_ has left #wai-wcag
22:05:41 [wendy]
zakim, bye
22:05:41 [Zakim]
Zakim has left #wai-wcag
22:05:45 [wendy]
RRSAGent, generate minutes
22:05:45 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/08/11-wai-wcag-minutes.html wendy
22:05:57 [sebastiano]
Yeah, was me (Sebastiano)
22:08:53 [wendy]
RRSAgent, bye
22:08:53 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items