IRC log of ua on 2005-08-04

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17:57:01 [Al]
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17:57:34 [Al]
Zakim, what conference is this?
17:57:34 [Zakim]
this will be WAI_UAWG()2:00PM conference code 8294, Al
17:59:18 [Zakim]
WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has now started
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+Jim_Allan
18:00:20 [jallan]
Hi Al, we mostly use the telephone
18:00:38 [Al]
OK, will join you now
18:01:01 [Al]
Zakim, call AlGilman-home
18:01:01 [Zakim]
ok, Al; the call is being made
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-Jim_Allan
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+Jim_Allan
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+AlGilman
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+[IBM]
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18:02:37 [jallan]
Al are you on the phone
18:02:56 [Al]
Zakim, call AlGilman-home
18:02:56 [Zakim]
ok, Al; the call is being made
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-AlGilman
18:03:43 [Al]
Zakim, call AlGilman-home
18:03:43 [Zakim]
ok, Al; the call is being made
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+AlGilman
18:08:58 [jallan]
discussion of <col> and <colgroup>
18:11:25 [jallan]
discussion of draft response for accesskey
18:12:09 [jallan]
author proposes/user disposes
18:14:16 [jallan]
mobile devices want to change the accesskey based on the device, not leave it up to the user/author
18:17:58 [jallan]
related to onchange on wwwhtml list
18:22:16 [jallan]
need to wok on future implementation of accesskey in xhtml2 and new browser implementation and repair for accesskey in html4
18:24:58 [jallan]
discussion of draft requirements
18:25:43 [jallan]
problem is knowing what the associations are.
18:26:59 [jallan]
base user agents don't have a way to expose accesskey bindings, the task has been taken by the Assistive Technology.
18:27:42 [jallan]
there is a requirement in UAAG for users to query the agent to find the bindings
18:30:00 [jallan]
say explicitly: User must be able to get a listing of keybindings for accesskeys
18:31:23 [jallan]
the user agent must do this, menu option. built into UA not left to AT repair or Author styling or other indicaton of accesskey
18:33:13 [jallan]
what about internationalization? if an accesskey is ~n, and I don't have it on my keyboard, how is it negotiated.
18:33:36 [jallan]
make interationalization a comment.
18:39:38 [jallan]
users needs to be able to change keys, but not necessarily anykey to anykey2
18:39:59 [jallan]
don't want to bind to key only, multimodal wants it broader.
18:56:23 [jallan]
discussion of how to expose accesskey, author supplied styling, UA exposing, using roles and let user define
18:57:45 [jallan]
desktop borwsers could expose this information to the user, but don't.
19:01:05 [Zakim]
-[IBM]
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-Jim_Allan
19:01:18 [Zakim]
-AlGilman
19:01:20 [Zakim]
WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has ended
19:01:21 [Zakim]
Attendees were Jim_Allan, AlGilman, [IBM]
19:01:34 [jallan]
if UA use/expose accesskey to user in a standard way (using an api)
19:03:39 [jallan]
then AT could gather the bindings/roles and expose them in alternative ways to users. Authors might be more inclined to use accesskey if they did not have to style or provide other indication of accesskey on a page.
19:09:14 [jallan]
rrsagent, draft minutes
19:09:14 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/08/04-ua-minutes.html jallan
19:09:46 [jallan]
rrsagent make logs world visible
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rrsagent, make logs world-visible
19:10:44 [jallan]
rrsagnet, bye
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19:24:26 [Al]
zakim, bye
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19:24:35 [Al]
RRSAgent, bye
19:24:35 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items