IRC log of dawg on 2005-08-02

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14:24:05 [DanC]

Meeting: RDF Data Access WG Weekly

14:24:11 [DanC]

Regrets: SouriD

14:24:49 [DanC]

DanC has changed the topic to: DAWG 2 Aug. scribe: AndyS http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/

14:25:10 [DanC]

agenda + Convene, take roll, review records and agenda

14:25:17 [DanC]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JulSep/0162.html

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14:25:27 [DanC]

agenda + ISSUE resultsMimeType

14:25:36 [DanC]

agenda + SPARQL results publication

14:25:43 [DanC]

agenda + toward Protocol last call

14:25:53 [DanC]

agenda + SPARQL QL comment status and editorial comments

14:26:03 [DanC]

agenda + issue valueTesting

14:26:14 [DanC]

agenda + issue badIRIRef

14:26:24 [DanC]

agenda + comment "Query forms should be resources, not operations"

14:26:30 [DanC]

agenda + Test cases publication

14:27:43 [kendall]

whew, crowded agenda :>

14:28:50 [DanC]

yeah... it took me several hours to write

14:29:15 [kendall]

i bet

14:29:51 [Zakim]

SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started

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+Kendall_Clark

14:30:17 [Zakim]

+[IBMCambridge]

14:30:19 [Zakim]

-[IBMCambridge]

14:30:20 [Zakim]

+[IBMCambridge]

14:30:28 [EliasT]

Zakim, IBMCambridge is EliasT

14:30:28 [Zakim]

+EliasT; got it

14:30:38 [Zakim]

+??P8

14:30:43 [DaveB]

Zakim, ??P8 is DaveB

14:30:43 [Zakim]

+DaveB; got it

14:30:44 [Zakim]

+Jeen_Broekstra

14:31:02 [Zakim]

+DanC

14:31:14 [Zakim]

+HowardK

14:31:21 [DanC]

Zakim, take up item 1

14:31:21 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review records and agenda" taken up [from DanC]

14:31:32 [DanC]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JulSep/0162.html

14:31:43 [DanC]

Regrets: SouriD

14:31:55 [Zakim]

+EricP

14:32:41 [ericP]

Meeting: RDF Data Access

14:32:44 [DanC]

-> http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-dawg-minutes minutes 26 Jul 2005 Date: 2005/08/01 15:34:54

14:32:51 [ericP]

Scribe: AndyS

14:33:01 [Zakim]

+??P13

14:33:05 [AndyS]

zakim, ??P13 is AndyS

14:33:05 [Zakim]

+AndyS; got it

14:33:10 [DanC]

RESOLVED: to approve 26 Jul minutes

14:33:25 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

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14:33:30 [DanC]

next meeting: 9 Aug?

14:33:49 [DanC]

Zakim, IPcaller is JanneS

14:33:54 [Zakim]

+JanneS; got it

14:34:04 [DanC]

Zakim, who's on the phone?

14:34:04 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Kendall_Clark, EliasT, DaveB, Jeen_Broekstra, DanC, HowardK, EricP, AndyS, JanneS

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14:34:06 [DanC]

Zakim, who's on the phone?

14:34:06 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Kendall_Clark, EliasT, DaveB, Jeen_Broekstra, DanC, HowardK, EricP, AndyS, JanneS

14:34:26 [Zakim]

+Jos_De_Roo

14:34:52 [AndyS]

Next meeting: 9 August / next scribe : JanneS

14:35:23 [AndyS]

Actions continued

14:35:47 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

14:35:47 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "ISSUE resultsMimeType" taken up [from DanC]

14:37:25 [AndyS]

Yes but without broken lines :-)

14:37:38 [AndyS]

ACTION: ericP to add "don't normalize" to rq23

14:37:59 [AndyS]

ACTION: EricP to add test in 0096 to rq23 tests. label "approved" and

14:37:59 [AndyS]

ref http://www.w3.org/2005/07/26-dawg-minutes

14:38:31 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

14:38:31 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

14:38:34 [DanC]

ACTION: DaveB respond to "sparqlResults namespace" comment http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2005Jul/0039.html [CONTINUES]

14:39:22 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

14:39:22 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "SPARQL results publication" taken up [from DanC]

14:39:24 [AndyS]

Actions done from item 2

14:39:24 [kendall]

[OK?] == are you happy message

14:39:37 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

14:39:37 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

14:40:08 [AndyS]

Actions done as noted in agenda

14:40:19 [AndyS]

ACTION: EricP to publish rf1

14:40:29 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

14:40:29 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "toward Protocol last call" taken up [from DanC]

14:41:19 [AndyS]

Actions done as noted in agenda (item 4)

14:42:11 [AndyS]

Kendall: v1.55 isn't ready but KC will OK it if everyone else does

14:42:15 [Zakim]

+NickG

14:42:22 [SteveH]

Zakim, NickG is SteveH

14:42:22 [Zakim]

+SteveH; got it

14:42:25 [SteveH]

Zakim, mute me

14:42:25 [Zakim]

SteveH should now be muted

14:42:26 [DanC]

welcome SteveH

14:42:35 [AndyS]

q+ to ask about SOAP binding

14:42:53 [AndyS]

DanC: no red items should be there

14:43:14 [AndyS]

EricP suggests replacing with @@

14:43:23 [DaveB]

the <sparql> result has the old namespace

14:44:32 [AndyS]

DanC: wants examples to be in test suite for protocol

14:44:48 [AndyS]

.. hence will become normative (maybe not right now)

14:46:14 [AndyS]

DanC: Comments on error handling and conformance pending - chance to address now

14:46:36 [AndyS]

e.g. definitions of SPARQL query service

14:47:01 [AndyS]

WSDL magic? (definition?? :-)

14:48:04 [AndyS]

EricP to ask Philippe whether WSDL 2.0 is considered defining

14:50:15 [DanC]

todo list: (1) examples (2) post binding (3) conformance/definitions

14:50:46 [kendall]

(4) some kind of non-normative wsdl 1.1

14:52:15 [DanC]

(5) something about output serialization... is it required?

14:52:39 [kendall]

the output types are certainly specified otherwise

14:52:46 [AndyS]

May be optional in which case the alternatives we can send don't matter

14:53:13 [SteveH]

I could do tests if that helps

14:53:46 [DanC]

ACTION Elias: elaborate "DESCRIBE with simple RDF dataset" and a few other examples

14:54:29 [DanC]

ACTION KendallC: update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/result2 to [what?]

14:55:06 [AndyS]

.../2005/sparql-results# (which I rememeber as I keep getting it wrong :-()

14:55:13 [SteveH]

Zakim, unmute me

14:55:13 [Zakim]

SteveH should no longer be muted

14:55:33 [AndyS]

SteveH: tests offer

14:55:58 [AndyS]

SteveH: Start with test content negotiation

14:56:03 [DanC]

ACTION SteveH: elaborate "CONSTRUCT with content negotiation" into a test case

14:56:22 [SteveH]

Zakim, mute me

14:56:22 [Zakim]

SteveH should now be muted

14:57:45 [DanC]

ACTION EricP: discuss conformance w.r.t. WSDL 2 with PLH and send some notes to the WG, preferably including suggested text for conformance

14:58:57 [kendall]

I think there's a WSDL 2.0 eclipse plugin...

15:00:19 [AndyS]

WSDL 2.0: Can be one step ahead of another rec which is ref'ed

15:00:49 [AndyS]

WSDL 2.0: Talking about spring 2006

15:02:20 [AndyS]

DanC plans to spend time on other things from CR

15:02:43 [AndyS]

DanC: CR may be long to allow sync with other recs

15:03:20 [AndyS]

KC: is v1.55 an LC candidate?

15:03:49 [AndyS]

q?

15:04:06 [AndyS]

DaveB: has red in it

15:04:21 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a victim

15:04:21 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Jos_De_Roo

15:04:36 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a victim

15:04:36 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kendall_Clark

15:04:40 [SteveH]

whats the deadline?

15:05:19 [AndyS]

AndyS will review - needs 3 clear days

15:05:25 [SteveH]

I cant do it by a week today

15:06:29 [AndyS]

NB My Thursday is earlier than KC's

15:07:05 [AndyS]

I can review regardless of state

15:07:09 [kendall]

ah, good

15:07:31 [DanC]

ACTION AndyS: review proto-wd/ as LC candidate after signal from KC, perhaps by 9 Aug but more likely 16 Aug

15:08:36 [AndyS]

q-

15:09:51 [kendall]

soap traces would be required, I think....

15:10:20 [ericP]

ACTION EricP: review protocol document for last call when KendallC says it's ready

15:12:24 [kendall]

FWIW, I've heard enough to work on adding it, but that really puts "being done by Wednesday" in jeopardy

15:12:44 [DanC]

ACTION SteveH: review proto-wd by 16th Aug, if not 9th Aug

15:12:55 [AndyS]

KC: Adding SOAP delays the LC candidate

15:14:45 [DanC]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JulSep/0087.html Experience with SPARQL/P/SOAP/Axis

15:14:45 [EliasT]

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/joseki/Joseki3/SOAP/sparql-11.wsdl?rev=1.15&view=markup

15:14:57 [AndyS]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JulSep/att-0087/sparql-11.wsdl

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[[

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<wsdl:binding name="QuerySoapBinding" type="tns:QueryInterface">

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<soap:binding style="document" transport="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/http"/>

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...

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]]

15:16:07 [Zakim]

+[IBMCambridge]

15:18:39 [AndyS]

DanC: suggest a separate tech report from the WG for WSDL 1.1

15:19:14 [DanC]

ACTION LeeF: draft WSDL 1.1 for SPARQL thingy with AndyS and Elias

15:19:44 [DanC]

... ETA 1 month

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<DanC> ACTION LeeF: draft WSDL 1.1 for SPARQL thingy with AndyS and Elias ETA 1 month

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15:21:52 [DanC]

ACTION DanC: ask WSDL WG to review WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2 SPARQL protocol stuff, once both are available

15:21:56 [AndyS]

AndyS suggest ask the WSDL WG re compatiblity of our WSDL 1.1 for wire format

15:22:40 [DanC]

RRSAgent, list action

15:22:40 [RRSAgent]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'list action', DanC. Try /msg RRSAgent help

15:22:41 [DanC]

RRSAgent, list actions

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

I see 13 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-actions.rdf :

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP to add "don't normalize" to rq23 [1]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T14-37-38

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: EricP to add test in 0096 to rq23 tests. label "approved" and [2]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T14-37-59

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: DaveB respond to "sparqlResults namespace" comment http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2005Jul/0039.html [CONTINUES] [3]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T14-38-34

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: EricP to publish rf1 [4]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T14-40-19

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Elias to elaborate "DESCRIBE with simple RDF dataset" and a few other examples [5]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T14-53-46

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: KendallC to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/result2 to [what?] [6]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T14-54-29

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: SteveH to elaborate "CONSTRUCT with content negotiation" into a test case [7]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T14-56-03

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: EricP to discuss conformance w.r.t. WSDL 2 with PLH and send some notes to the WG, preferably including suggested text for conformance [8]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T14-57-45

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: AndyS to review proto-wd/ as LC candidate after signal from KC, perhaps by 9 Aug but more likely 16 Aug [9]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T15-07-31

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: EricP to review protocol document for last call when KendallC says it's ready [10]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T15-10-20

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: SteveH to review proto-wd by 16th Aug, if not 9th Aug [11]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T15-12-44

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: LeeF to draft WSDL 1.1 for SPARQL thingy with AndyS and Elias [12]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T15-19-14

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: DanC to ask WSDL WG to review WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2 SPARQL protocol stuff, once both are available [13]

15:22:41 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/08/02-dawg-irc#T15-21-52

15:24:15 [AndyS]

AndyS sends regrets for Aug 16

15:24:32 [EliasT]

Zakim, mute me

15:24:32 [Zakim]

EliasT should now be muted

15:25:12 [AndyS]

DanC reviews LC status

15:26:21 [kendall]

There's some risk -- but I don't know its scope or severity -- that the "How to do Sparql Protocol in WSDL 1.1" document will become the de facto protocol document for SOAP people. This means, IMO, that it has either reference the SPARQL-P doc or duplicate its policy section and maybe other sections, too.

15:26:29 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a victim

15:26:29 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose DanC

15:26:33 [kendall]

(err, I'd like that on the record.)

15:26:37 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a victim

15:26:37 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose DanC

15:26:41 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a victim

15:26:41 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Jos_De_Roo

15:26:47 [DanC]

Zakim, pick a victim

15:26:47 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose AndyS

15:29:40 [AndyS]

AndyS+EricP wil do an ack section (not prior art)

15:29:42 [kendall]

I'm very +1 on having an ack section in the ql spec.

15:29:57 [DanC]

ACTION AndyS: take the "Backslashes in string literals" comment

15:30:04 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

15:30:04 [Zakim]

agendum 5. "SPARQL QL comment status and editorial comments" taken up [from DanC]

15:30:12 [DanC]

Zakim, close agendum 5

15:30:12 [Zakim]

agendum 5 closed

15:30:13 [Zakim]

I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

15:30:15 [Zakim]

6. issue valueTesting [from DanC]

15:30:16 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

15:30:16 [Zakim]

agendum 6. "issue valueTesting" taken up [from DanC]

15:30:16 [AndyS]

AndyS wil take the escapes in literals

15:30:20 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

15:30:20 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

15:31:02 [AndyS]

ACTION AndyS: Propose text for escapes in literals

15:31:46 [DanC]

action -14

15:31:52 [AndyS]

ACTION: EricP to finish extendedType-eq-pass-result.n3

15:31:53 [AndyS]

DONE

15:32:20 [DanC]

PROPOSED: to accept extendedType-eq-pass-result.n3 (manifest 1.4 ...)

15:32:30 [DanC]

PROPOSED: to accept extendedType-eq-pass-result.n3 (manifest 1.4 query 1.5)

15:32:34 [DanC]

PROPOSED: to accept extendedType-eq-pass-result.n3 (manifest 1.4 query 1.5 results 1.2)

15:33:07 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

15:33:07 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

15:33:14 [DanC]

so RESOLVED.

15:33:27 [DaveB]

er, that's missing the query: # $Id: extendedType-eq-pass.rq,v 1.5 2005/08/02 03:30:19 eric Exp $

15:33:39 [SteveH]

action please, so the minuites get referneces

15:34:04 [DanC]

ACTION SteveH: update test matierials to show extendedType-eq-pass-result.n3 approved in this 2 Aug meeting

15:34:24 [ericP]

labeled "approved"

15:36:09 [kendall]

Tim sent a message about this a few minutes ago -- to comments list, I mean

15:37:17 [kendall]

I think I will be conviced iff the claims about de Morgan's law are valid. Not sure yet, though.

15:37:58 [DanC]

q+ to ask if there's a test case for every sense of the word "error"

15:38:50 [DanC]

ack danc

15:38:50 [Zakim]

DanC, you wanted to ask if there's a test case for every sense of the word "error"

15:40:36 [ericP]

'XXI'^^:romanNumeral = 21

15:44:39 [DanC]

ew... sounds like our design for sorting takes a different approach from our design for valueTesting. blech. new information to me.

15:45:33 [DanC]

any volunteers to make test cases out of 'XXI'^^:romanNumeral = 21 and points nearby? I'd like to take this to email.

15:46:00 [AndyS]

Agreed - tricky to do in a telecon

15:46:07 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

15:46:07 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark was not muted, kendall

15:46:11 [kendall]

zakim, mute me

15:46:11 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should now be muted

15:46:45 [ericP]

-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#func-RDFterm-equal RDF = test

15:46:57 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

15:46:57 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted

15:47:09 [DanC]

ACTION DaveB: make 'XXI'^^:romanNumeral = 21 and points nearby into test cases (or ask questions in email).

15:47:28 [ericP]

[[

15:47:29 [ericP]

Returns TRUE if the two arguments are the same RDF term or if they are literals known to have the same value. The latter is tested with an XQuery function appropriate to the arguments.

15:47:33 [ericP]

]]

15:47:39 [JanneS]

I need to leave for tonight.. I will be scribing next week. ciao

15:47:50 [DanC]

hasta, Janne

15:47:53 [Zakim]

-JanneS

15:48:21 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

15:48:21 [Zakim]

agendum 7. "issue badIRIRef" taken up [from DanC]

15:49:01 [DanC]

SELECT ?x WHERE { <foo###bar> dc:title ?x }.

15:49:46 [SteveH]

wouldn't foo###bar be relative to the base URI?

15:49:55 [DanC]

but only one # is allowed

15:50:00 [SteveH]

ah! right

15:52:04 [DanC]

ACTION AndyS: draft language re <foo###bar> errors

15:52:30 [DanC]

other case: <foo bar>

15:55:07 [AndyS]

Need an error test case form

15:55:14 [SteveH]

yes

15:55:29 [AndyS]

ACTION AndyS: Use IRI ref not RDF URI ref as worls has moved on

15:56:01 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

15:56:01 [Zakim]

agendum 8. "comment "Query forms should be resources, not operations"" taken up [from DanC]

15:56:09 [kendall]

zakim, unmute me

15:56:09 [Zakim]

Kendall_Clark was not muted, kendall

15:59:05 [DanC]

ACTION KC: ask Baker for clarification

15:59:16 [DanC]

Zakim, next agendum

15:59:16 [Zakim]

agendum 9. "Test cases publication" taken up [from DanC]

16:00:12 [DanC]

ADJOURN.

16:00:16 [Zakim]

-[IBMCambridge]

16:00:18 [Zakim]

-DaveB

16:00:20 [SteveH]

bye

16:00:22 [Zakim]

-Jeen_Broekstra

16:00:23 [Zakim]

-SteveH

16:00:25 [Zakim]

-Jos_De_Roo

16:00:26 [Zakim]

-Kendall_Clark

16:00:29 [Zakim]

-HowardK

16:00:46 [ericP]

XML Results Format published

16:01:02 [DanC]

woohoo!

16:01:48 [Zakim]

-DanC

16:01:50 [Zakim]

-EricP

16:02:38 [Zakim]

-AndyS

16:02:39 [Zakim]

-EliasT

16:02:39 [Zakim]

SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended

16:02:41 [Zakim]

Attendees were Kendall_Clark, EliasT, DaveB, Jeen_Broekstra, DanC, HowardK, EricP, AndyS, JanneS, Jos_De_Roo, SteveH, [IBMCambridge]

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17:06:32 [DaveB]

er, re http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-rdf-sparql-XMLres-20050801/

17:06:35 [DaveB]

@@FIXME@@ At publication time replace http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/result2.xsd and references to result2.xsd in the linked files to the final publication location under /TR/.

17:06:58 [DaveB]

just before the example where the change shouldve' been done :)

17:14:15 [ericP]

a/

17:14:26 [ericP]

will do, in about an hour

17:14:31 [DanC]

cool

17:17:13 [DanC]

ericp, your response to timbl seems to be confused. you gave an example with SELECT but the results look like CONSTRUCT:

17:17:14 [DanC]

[] fire:eek []

17:17:33 [ericP]

oops, pasto

17:19:25 [ericP]

resent

17:20:39 [DanC]

I was a little surprised you flagged your message as [OK?] but i guess it makes sense

17:21:51 [DanC]

The example you gave wasn't from the spec nor from the test cases. I like the discussion to focus on the WG's materials. I'd be more comfortable if you put that test in the WG test suite at some point.

17:23:05 [DanC]

shouldn't the temp result be "314"^^:degreesK ?

17:27:57 [LeeF]

Also, note that TBL's scenario features smokeDetected being false rather than true

17:28:05 [LeeF]

Which changes the tradeoff

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18:12:55 [danbri]

bjoern_"@@FIXME@@ At publication time replace http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/result2.xsd and references to result2.xsd in the linked files to the final publication location under /TR/." -- http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-rdf-sparql-XMLres-20050801/

18:13:00 [danbri]

from #swig just now

18:13:40 [LeeF]

Thanks, danbri. I believe ericP already agreed to fix that soon.

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18:14:25 [danbri]

ok cool

18:29:01 [DanC]

ericp, [OK?] goes at the end. [closed] goes at the beginning.

18:29:19 [DanC]

my tools are doing something wierd with your [OK?] message. I wonder if I can get them to stop it

20:17:58 [DanC]

ericp? WD-rdf-sparql-XMLres doesn't seem to be fixed yet.

20:18:58 [DanC]

DaveB, I'm not confident I can fix it. can you watch while I try, and confirm/review?

20:22:05 [ericP]

DanC, yeah, mit meeting and a couple side missions kept me busy

20:22:55 [DanC]

ah. hi.

20:23:38 [DanC]

WWW/TR/2005/WD-rdf-sparql-XMLres-20050801/Overview.html

20:25:09 [DanC]

ah... good... dave...

20:25:13 [DanC]

I have ericp on the phone...

20:25:24 [DanC]

neither of us is really confident we can get this right without you checking

20:25:27 [DaveB]

delete: xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/result2.xsd">

20:25:40 [DaveB]

replace: xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-rdf-sparql-XMLres-20050801/result2.xsd"

20:25:50 [DaveB]

delete: paragraph @@FIXME@@

20:26:36 [DaveB]

and for extra credit, replace ">References" with "References" a little later ;)

20:26:41 [DanC]

eric asks: dated or undated? ah. dated.

20:26:47 [DaveB]

yes, dated

20:27:32 [DaveB]

I guess in CR/PR/... it can go near or under the 2005/sparql-results area. A discussion for later.

20:28:18 [ericP]

DaveB, could you inspect?

20:28:44 [DanC]

WD-rdf-sparql-XMLres-20050801/Overview.html 1.1 Tue Aug 2 20:28:03 2005 UTC

20:29:05 [DaveB]

looks good

20:29:06 [ericP]

i hit result2.xsd and Overview.html

20:30:14 [DaveB]

what did you change in result2.xsd ?

20:31:06 [DaveB]

ahh nothing according to the cvs ID. I mis-understood.

20:31:43 [ericP]

sorry, output2.srx

20:32:03 [ericP]

hmm, shouldn't be there anyways

20:32:32 [DaveB]

it's needed for my validation with wxs

20:32:43 [DaveB]

I check xml, relaxng, wxs valid every make

20:33:04 [ericP]

ok. i leave it alone

20:33:20 [DaveB]

that's all, thanks.