13:59:03 RRSAgent has joined #swbp 13:59:03 logging to http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc 13:59:09 Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML TF 13:59:21 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jul/0014.html 13:59:24 Chair: Ben Adida 13:59:29 Regrets: DanBri 13:59:35 Steven has joined #swbp 13:59:44 Previous Meeting: http://www.w3.org/2005/07/12-swbp-minutes 14:00:14 SW_BPD(rdfxhtml)10:00AM has now started 14:00:21 +Ben_Adida 14:00:30 zakim, dial steven-617 14:00:31 ok, Steven; the call is being made 14:00:32 -Ben_Adida 14:00:33 +Ben_Adida 14:00:34 +Steven 14:00:38 +Ralph 14:01:42 Regrets+ Mark 14:03:08 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/samples/ 14:03:11 examples by DanBri 14:03:48 Steven: I'm also working with Ivan Herman on some examples 14:04:07 ... Ivan manages the presentation of W3C Talks (from the W3C home page) using RDF 14:04:24 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jul/0012.html 14:04:27 ... he's looking into representing the Talk data in RDF/A 14:04:33 action items collected from last few meetings 14:04:48 ACTION: Steven send wording for 23.2 to mailing list 14:04:48 -- done; -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jul/0015.html Wording for 23.2 14:06:49 Ralph: do you expect that 23.2 will be definitive for all the ways in which an RDF triple can be extracted from RDF/A? 14:06:55 Steven: yes, modulo bnodes 14:07:10 Ben: what about inheritance? 14:07:24 Steven: inheritance is intended to be covered 14:08:06 ACTION: Ben to notify working group of upcoming WD of Note 14:08:35 s/group/group via a status report/ 14:08:48 -- continues 14:09:28 BenA: regarding GRDDL profile, does HTML WG understand that there may be a document at the namespace URI that contains a transform? 14:09:32 Steven: yes, that should be fine 14:09:51 ... some of these administrative details will happen after Last Call 14:10:13 ... if you really want an issue to be tracked, send a message to www-html-editor 14:10:49 That's why the text says "the about property" rather than "the content of the about attribute", since it takes inheritance and defaults into account. 14:11:02 (re inheritance above) 14:13:15 ACTION: Ben send mail to www-html-editors to assign an issue for the GRDDL namespace document behind the profile 14:13:42 ACTION: Ben create a way to track progress on the 3 issues of qnames, reification, and custom attributes and elements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/12-swbp-minutes.html#action01] 14:13:56 Ben: may be simple enough to create a Web page for tracking these 14:14:28 ... can add the other issues to this same document 14:14:37 ACTION: jjc to circulate www conf paper 14:14:40 -- continues 14:14:55 Ralph: Jeremy's paper on RDF/A 14:17:26 http://www.w3.org/2005/06/27-swbp-minutes#ActionSummary 14:18:19 ACTION: Ralph suggest to XHTML TF that Jeremy's WWW2005 Talk be turned into a document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/06/27-swbp-minutes.html#action07] 14:18:23 -- done 14:18:49 Ralph: there was some thought at the WG telecon that Jeremy's talk could be the basis for a WG Note 14:19:26 ACTION: take a serious look at Mark's bnode proposal summary http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jun/0010.html 14:19:29 -- continues 14:19:38 ACTION: Mark to create an rdf/a wiki 14:19:43 -- continues (though some evidence of action) 14:19:57 ACTION: Mark to check edge cases of inheritance in RDF/A 14:19:59 -- continues 14:20:05 ACTION: Ben to put together the "ACID" test for XHTML2 RDF/A 14:20:10 -- continues; some progress 14:20:16 ACTION: danbri record an issue re # vs / 14:20:52 Ralph: I don 14:21:00 Ralph: I don't recall the details of this action 14:21:09 Ben: perhaps regarding 302 responses? 14:21:12 -- continues 14:21:31 ACTION: Ben to coordinate with mark for next week's meeting 14:21:33 -- done 14:22:19 Ben: I will continue to do this coordination 14:23:35 Steven: status of response to Bjoern Hoehrmann? 14:23:51 Ben: have a draft reply but waiting on the Bag question 14:24:34 ... is tied up in inheritance question also 14:25:10 ... I don't want to send a response for the record until we have a 100% correct solution 14:26:28 Next Meeting: 26 July 14:27:09 Ben: I expect to be able to attend through August 9, won't be able to attend from 16 Aug for 6 weeks 14:28:04 Ben: what are the current expectations for XHTML2 Last Call? 14:28:12 -Steven 14:28:16 Steven: we really hope to go to Last Call before our September face-to-face 14:28:17 -Ben_Adida 14:28:21 -Ralph 14:28:22 SW_BPD(rdfxhtml)10:00AM has ended 14:28:23 Attendees were Ben_Adida, Steven, Ralph 14:30:10 rrsagent, please draft minutes 14:30:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-minutes.html Ralph 14:30:17 rrsagent, please make logs world 14:30:20 rrsagent, bye 14:30:20 I see 12 open action items: 14:30:20 ACTION: Steven send wording for 23.2 to mailing list [1] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-04-48 14:30:20 ACTION: Ben to notify working group of upcoming WD of Note [2] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-08-06 14:30:20 ACTION: Ben send mail to www-html-editors to assign an issue for the GRDDL namespace document behind the profile [3] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-13-15 14:30:20 ACTION: Ben create a way to track progress on the 3 issues of qnames, reification, and custom attributes and elements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/12-swbp-minutes.html#action01] [4] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-13-42 14:30:20 ACTION: jjc to circulate www conf paper [5] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-14-37 14:30:20 ACTION: Ralph suggest to XHTML TF that Jeremy's WWW2005 Talk be turned into a document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/06/27-swbp-minutes.html#action07] [6] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-18-19 14:30:20 ACTION: take a serious look at Mark's bnode proposal summary http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2005Jun/0010.html [7] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-19-26 14:30:20 ACTION: Mark to create an rdf/a wiki [8] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-19-38 14:30:20 ACTION: Mark to check edge cases of inheritance in RDF/A [9] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-19-57 14:30:20 ACTION: Ben to put together the "ACID" test for XHTML2 RDF/A [10] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-20-05 14:30:20 ACTION: danbri record an issue re # vs / [11] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-20-16 14:30:20 ACTION: Ben to coordinate with mark for next week's meeting [12] 14:30:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/19-swbp-irc#T14-21-31