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13:56:00 <Michael> rrsagent, make log world
13:56:04 <Michael> chair: Michael
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13:56:21 <Michael> agenda+ Requirements
13:56:33 <Michael> agenda+ Meaning of testing (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0042.html)
13:56:47 <Michael> agenda+ Discuss Script techniques direction (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0015.html)
13:57:13 <Michael> agendum 1 = Requirements (http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/05/WD-wcag2-tech-req-20050520.html)
14:00:39 <Michael> meeting: WCAG Techniques Telecon 13 July 2005
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14:01:09 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG(techniques)10:00AM has now started
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14:01:45 <Michael> zakim, ??P9 is Chris_Ridpath
14:01:45 <Zakim> +Chris_Ridpath; got it
14:01:57 <Zakim> +Becky_Gibson
14:02:00 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
14:02:55 <wendy> zakim, code?
14:02:55 <Zakim> the conference code is 92248 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), wendy
14:03:24 <Zakim> +Wendy
14:03:56 <Michael> regrets: John Slatin, Tim Boland
14:04:47 <Zakim> +??P39
14:05:02 <ben> zakim, ??P39 is Ben
14:05:02 <Zakim> +Ben; got it
14:07:53 <Michael> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:07:53 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Meaning of testing (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0042.html)" taken up [from Michael]
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14:08:30 <Michael> scribe: Michael
14:09:09 <Michael> ECMAScript test file sample: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/tests/script-test1.html
14:09:29 <goetsu> hello i'm late is this a private meeting?
14:11:37 <goetsu> can i stay for just for readding?
14:12:20 <wendy> goetsu - please identify yourself.
14:13:32 <goetsu> i am aurelien levy, i have made tree post on the public list, i am french webdesigner and developer, i am a member of the Accessiweb working group
14:14:14 <goetsu> maybe you know sylvie accessiweb/braillenet, Sylvie duchateau or pierre guillou or dominique burger
14:16:02 <wendy> yes, know sylvie, pierre, and dominique. people who are not participants in good standing do not typically hang out on irc during discussions.  are you hoping to become a participant in good standing? (info at: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/participation.html#Becoming)
14:19:02 <Christophe> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/tests/ctprocess.html
14:23:37 <Michael> resolution: start up test case review process of having reviews in batches of 10 with recommendations, online surveys of the resultant proposal, and discussion of the difficult ones in calls
14:24:22 <Michael> action: Michael divide up test cases for review again
14:31:02 <Michael> action: discuss with Gregg process for updating structure of techniques documents
14:33:04 <Michael> zakim, close this item
14:33:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
14:33:05 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:33:06 <Zakim> 1. Requirements (http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/05/WD-wcag2-tech-req-20050520.html)
14:33:14 <Michael> zakim, take up item 3
14:33:14 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Discuss Script techniques direction (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005JulSep/0015.html)" taken up [from Michael]
14:40:59 <Michael> action: Wendy, Becky, Michael discuss with Peter-Paul Koch about script techniques
14:46:53 <wendy> seems that http://www.quirksmode.org/js/accessibility.html is headed in the direction that david recommends, but needs testing/evaluation procedures - likely need diff procedures for each type of baseline.
14:50:03 <wendy> forms validation - possible testing procedure: spell out each thing that should happen.  stating explicitly what happenes when (e.g., enter incorrect telephone number, tab out of field. field doesn't validate until after tab out and using a SR it is expected to [xyz]. )
14:55:03 <Michael> action: Becky prototype a script technique and procedural test to see how it all fits together
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14:57:27 <Zakim> -Chris_Ridpath
15:04:05 <Michael> zakim, close this item
15:04:05 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
15:04:05 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:04:05 <Zakim> 1. Requirements (http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2005/05/WD-wcag2-tech-req-20050520.html)
15:04:56 <Zakim> -Becky_Gibson
15:04:58 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
15:04:59 <Zakim> -Ben
15:05:01 <Zakim> -Wendy
15:05:01 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
15:05:02 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG(techniques)10:00AM has ended
15:05:04 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Chris_Ridpath, Becky_Gibson, Christophe_Strobbe, Wendy, Ben
15:08:38 <Michael> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:08:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-minutes.html Michael
15:11:48 <ben> zakim, bye
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16:03:16 <ben> RRSAgent, bye
16:03:16 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items:
16:03:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael divide up test cases for review again [1]
16:03:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T14-24-22
16:03:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: discuss with Gregg process for updating structure of techniques documents [2]
16:03:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T14-31-02
16:03:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Wendy, Becky, Michael discuss with Peter-Paul Koch about script techniques [3]
16:03:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T14-40-59
16:03:16 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Becky prototype a script technique and procedural test to see how it all fits together [4]
16:03:16 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-wai-wcag-irc#T14-55-03