IRC log of wstf on 2005-06-27

Timestamps are in UTC.

21:59:32 [RRSAgent]
RRSAgent has joined #wstf
21:59:32 [RRSAgent]
logging to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/27-wstf-irc
21:59:38 [Zakim]
Zakim has joined #wstf
21:59:42 [shawn]
zakim this will be wstf
21:59:52 [shawn]
zakim, this will be wstf
21:59:52 [Zakim]
ok, shawn; I see WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
21:59:53 [Justin]
Chair: Shawn
21:59:59 [Justin]
Meeting: WSTF
22:00:04 [Justin]
Scribe: Justin
22:00:12 [Justin]
ScribeNick: Justin
22:01:04 [Justin]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-eo-site/2005Jun/0018.html
22:01:56 [Zakim]
WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM has now started
22:02:03 [Zakim]
+Shawn
22:03:06 [Justin]
hmmm...zakim isn't liking my skype
22:03:41 [amja]
amja has joined #wstf
22:04:22 [Zakim]
+Wayne_Dick
22:09:33 [Zakim]
+??P2
22:10:42 [Andrew]
Andrew has joined #wstf
22:10:56 [Zakim]
+Shawn.a
22:12:29 [shawn]
shawn has joined #wstf
22:12:38 [shawn]
shawn has changed the topic to: wstf
22:14:53 [Justin]
i apologize for being late...i think the humidity is mucking with my electronics
22:17:52 [Zakim]
+??P4
22:18:07 [Justin]
zakim, ??P4 is Justin
22:18:07 [Zakim]
+Justin; got it
22:18:49 [Justin]
Topic: Static Nav Format
22:19:03 [Andrew]
zakim, who is on the call?
22:19:03 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Shawn, Wayne_Dick, ??P2, Shawn.a, Justin
22:19:19 [Andrew]
zakim, ??P2 is Andrew
22:19:19 [Zakim]
+Andrew; got it
22:21:35 [Justin]
Shawn: The boxes need to be different
22:21:46 [Justin]
Andrew: We have differentiated it.
22:22:10 [Justin]
Andrew: With the brackets, it slowed my scan down.
22:22:14 [Justin]
Wayne: I like the brackets.
22:23:45 [Justin]
Andrew: With brackets everything lines up better.
22:24:18 [Justin]
Wayne: I can live with out the brackets. Having something that makes it stand out as important helps.
22:25:38 [Justin]
Justin: Its easier with bullets to see how many lines are in a bullet
22:26:42 [shawn]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ut3/Overview-print.html
22:28:30 [Justin]
Andrew: When it wraps in low res screens, people will need to see how many lines are in a item.
22:28:35 [Justin]
Group: go with small bullet
22:29:47 [Justin]
Wayne: Visually it is harder with the RSS and About RSS because they are different links.
22:35:23 [Justin]
http://www.smallbiz-enviroweb.org/images/new/sub-icon14.jpg
22:35:32 [Justin]
Topic: Search Icon
22:36:19 [Justin]
Wayne: Option A i want to type in the box.
22:36:31 [Justin]
Andrew: Option B I'm drawn right to that box.
22:38:26 [Justin]
Andrew: would search be the thing you were looking for most?
22:38:34 [Justin]
Wayne: Very likely.
22:39:04 [Justin]
Andrew: I would be drawn to this most and my eye goes right to it
22:40:23 [Justin]
Shawn: The search isn't very good.
22:40:34 [Justin]
Justin: The link is below the fold.
22:41:35 [Justin]
http://www.uneca.org/adf/images/icon-search.gif
22:44:51 [Justin]
Shawn: Binoculars or Magnifying glass?
22:45:06 [Justin]
Andrew: Would draw eye to it but not too much
22:45:13 [Justin]
Justin: Either works
22:45:21 [Justin]
Andrew: both work in australia
22:46:09 [Justin]
Group: We'd like to see an icon for search.
22:46:44 [Justin]
Shawn: What about putting an icon for all?
22:46:59 [Justin]
Justin: By putting an icon on all of them, it would decrease the power of the search icon.
22:47:10 [Justin]
Topic: RSS Link Text
22:48:14 [Justin]
putting feed next to the rss icon?
22:48:21 [Justin]
Shawn: keep the icon?
22:48:34 [Justin]
Andrew: With the word feed drop the icon.
22:49:59 [Justin]
Shawn: It is important for people that can use it.
22:50:27 [Justin]
Shawn: take icon to about RSS page?
22:51:44 [Justin]
Justin: people will get the feed if they like it or not.
22:52:05 [Justin]
Shawn: Just put the icon to the about rss page.
22:54:12 [Justin]
Topic: Current Page Indication in the Nav
22:55:33 [Justin]
Justin: For me it works
22:55:40 [Justin]
Andrew: Same for me
22:58:43 [Zakim]
-Andrew
22:59:13 [Justin]
ACTION: Shawn, in nav putting the double arrow closer to the nav item
22:59:56 [Zakim]
+??P2
23:00:15 [Andrew]
zakim, ??p2 is Andrew
23:00:15 [Zakim]
+Andrew; got it
23:01:46 [Justin]
Topic: Search changes
23:02:40 [Justin]
Shawn: for the most part did minor text tweaks
23:05:47 [Justin]
I think this works.
23:06:55 [Justin]
Andrew: Works with just adding "additiontal search term: WAI"
23:07:02 [Justin]
Wayne: I agree
23:07:49 [Justin]
Topic: Idea order for HTML
23:10:17 [Justin]
Sylvie: The What WAI does shouldn't come ahead of her getting the What.
23:10:36 [Justin]
s/Sylvie/Andrew
23:11:46 [Justin]
Andrew: Sylvie found it annoying because she reads by headings.
23:14:56 [Justin]
Wayne: There are certain aspects of the pages that are thought of by columns.
23:19:33 [Justin]
Andrew: Sidebar is of little importance
23:19:38 [Justin]
s/Andrew/Shawn
23:23:01 [Justin]
Andrew: it is annoying for people that are return.
23:23:15 [Justin]
Shawn: This is like a tag line.
23:27:53 [Justin]
Shawn: Using the Ideal in the agenda plus turning the what WAI does with <p>'s not <h2>'s
23:32:02 [Justin]
s/<h2>/<h3>
23:32:16 [Justin]
Shawn: See if we can move the other stuff down
23:37:19 [Zakim]
-Andrew
23:43:48 [Zakim]
-Justin