IRC log of swbp on 2005-04-07
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- Meeting: SemWeb BPD
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0018.html
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- Ralph has changed the topic to: SWBPD 07 April agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0018.html
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- SW_BPD()1:00PM has now started
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- +DanBri
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- +Aldo
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- +Darren_Govoni
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- 17:05:23 [Ralph]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0022.html previous meeting 2005-03-24
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- +Evan_Wallace
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- +??P8
- 17:05:59 [JeffP]
- Jeff Pan
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- zakim, ??p8 is Jeff
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- +Jeff; got it
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- i am unable to dial in, unfortunately
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- understood, Guus
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- David will chair
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- +Gary_Ng
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- In a few moments, once I can dial in myself
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- hi david
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- Regrets: Jeremy, Benjamin, Deb, Phil, Marco, Alan, Andreas, Fabien, Guus (will monitor irc)
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- +[IPcaller]
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- +??P13
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- zakim, ??p13 is Natasha
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- +Natasha; got it
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- zakim, ipcaller is Guus
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- +Guus; got it
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- + +1.703.418.aaaa
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- zakim, aaaa is Chris
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- +Chris; got it
- 17:10:50 [DavidW]
- dialing in now
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- +David_Wood
- 17:11:42 [Ralph]
- zakim, nominate a scribe
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- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Natasha
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- Scribe: Natasha
- 17:12:54 [danbri]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0018.html
- 17:12:57 [Ralph]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0022.html previous meeting 2005-03-24
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- +??P16
- 17:13:24 [Natasha]
- PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the March 24 telecon:
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- seconded
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- zakim, ??p16 is Alan
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- +Alan; got it
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- Accepted
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- PROPOSED to accept the minutes of Boston ftf 4-5 March:
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- Ralph seconds
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- Accepted
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- PROPOSED next telecon 21 April 1700 UTC
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- Note: NOT 1800 UTC
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- regrets Alan
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- regrets Dan
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- Agenda amendments
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- WrdNet earlier in the call
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- SKOS and VM move to later in the call
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- ACTION: chairs & ralph to organise straw poll on f2f location
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- continued, assigned to Guus
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- ACTION: Guus to organise straw poll on f2f location
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- Location of f2f
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- There is also an offer from Stanford to hold f2f
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- Will include in the strawpoll: Stanford, Vancouver, Galway
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- ACTION Ralph investigate what action may be taken when an
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- interested participant has been unable to get a response from his
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- AC Rep
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- Ralph was in a process of finding his out, but ISI has a new AC rep, so they may be progress on that issue
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- Action continued
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- ACTION: Ralph investigate what action may be taken when an
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- interested participant has been unable to get a response from his
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- AC Rep
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- Topic: WordNet TF
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- ACTION guus to contact aldo re whether he can attend next telecon
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- completed
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- Current status of the TF:
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- Aldo is writing a new version of the note on data model for WN
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- Princeton plans to add new relationships to WN 2.1, perhaps also change in top levels
- 17:20:27 [danbri]
- (I'd like to review it)
- 17:20:59 [Natasha]
- ISLE lexical entries: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Feb/0069.html
- 17:21:42 [Natasha]
- Aldo: are we in the position to add a liason action with ISLE
- 17:22:02 [danbri]
- (re pronunciation extensions, we have work at http://www.w3.org/Voice/ that we should connect with...)
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- Guus: time line is very important and estimate of feasibility
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- Guus: is this something you can resolve in 3-6 months?
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- Aldo: certainly possible
- 17:23:20 [danbri]
- q+ to ask re http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/WNET/wordnet-sw-20040713.html
- 17:24:51 [danbri]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/WNET/wnNounsyb_v7.owl 404s (link from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Feb/0066.html)
- 17:25:08 [Natasha]
- Guus: suggests to update the TF description to reflect the addition
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- and we will discuss it at the next telecon
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- ACTION: Aldo to update the TF description
- 17:25:28 [Zakim]
- danbri, you wanted to ask re http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/WNET/wordnet-sw-20040713.html
- 17:26:16 [Natasha]
- DanB: relationship to the document that Brian began to draft last year. Is it obsoleted by Aldo's work?
- 17:26:20 [danbri]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/WNET/wordnet-sw-20040713.html
- 17:26:46 [aldogan]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Feb/0068.html
- 17:26:58 [Ralph]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2004/11/01-swbp#item12 November f2f WNET discussion minutes
- 17:27:20 [danbri]
- all i can find is rdf/owl doc... http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/WNET/wordnet_datamodel.owl
- 17:27:49 [Natasha]
- Aldo: the datamodel is still based on the one Brian suggested
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- but it has changed a bit
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- Changes are described in the document
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- Some of the documentation is in the OWL file and should be moved to the document directly
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- Guus: It will be good to have another TF telecon discussion on teh datamodel
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- -Aldo
- 17:30:38 [danbri]
- ah, found the big file: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/WNET/wnNounsyn_v7.owl (via browsing directory)
- 17:30:38 [Natasha]
- Agenda item 2.1 Proposed resolution httpRange-14
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- Topic: Proposed resolution httpRange-14
- 17:31:00 [Natasha]
- ACTION davidw to draft the http-range-14 message
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- completed
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Mar/0202.html
- 17:31:28 [danbri]
- q+ to note that I started a document on this topic (drafted as VM but without coordination w/ VM TF members)
- 17:31:36 [Natasha]
- David: woudl be interested to know what happened on the TAG side
- 17:32:10 [danbri]
- my sketch http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/VM/httpclass/1
- 17:32:54 [danbri]
- q+ to note that TAG minutes showed Tim as misunderstanding our position (I sent mail)
- 17:32:58 [Natasha]
- Ralph advised Dan Connolly that if TAG wanted to devise a forum to discuss the technical issues with us, we will be glad to do that
- 17:33:21 [ChrisW]
- i agree with david
- 17:33:24 [Natasha]
- David: How much energy/time are we willing to spend on this?
- 17:34:42 [Zakim]
- danbri, you wanted to note that I started a document on this topic (drafted as VM but without coordination w/ VM TF members) and to note that TAG minutes showed Tim as
- 17:34:46 [Zakim]
- ... misunderstanding our position (I sent mail)
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- q?
- 17:37:16 [Natasha]
- DanBri started a document to describe the positions
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- zakim, wo's talking?
- 17:37:18 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, guus.
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- zakim, who is talking?
- 17:37:43 [Zakim]
- guus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ralph (82%), Jeff (4%)
- 17:37:58 [Natasha]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0012.html
- 17:39:39 [DavidW]
- zakim, mute me
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- David_Wood should now be muted
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- 17:40:49 [danbri]
- hi tom
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- hi dan
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- +Tom_Baker
- 17:41:24 [Natasha]
- Ralph: we need to distinguish ehether our arguments are deployment-oriented (something in our charter) vs architecture-driven arguments
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- +Tom_Baker.a (was Tom_Baker)
- 17:43:05 [Natasha]
- Guus proposes action: Chairs to discuss the httpRange-14 issue at the coordination level
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- ACTION: Chairs to discuss the httpRange-14 issue at the coordination level
- 17:44:09 [Natasha]
- Agenda item 2.2 OMG: ODM review
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- ACTION Guus to review OWL metamodel
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- continued, trying to finish this week
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- ACTION Deb to go over OWL metamodel and provide a summary
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- continued
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- ACTION Chris to provide input to DAWG based on deployment experience.
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- completed
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0021.html Chris's summary of his DAWG action
- 17:45:16 [Natasha]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0021.html
- 17:45:31 [Natasha]
- ACTION deb sort SOURCE issue discussion timing out with DanC how you
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- like; copy in davidw
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- done
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- ACTION jjc to review XML schema LC draft
- 17:46:11 [Natasha]
- continued; the draft is coming out shortly
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- ACTION jeff to review XML schema LC draft
- 17:46:28 [Natasha]
- continued; the draft is coming out shortly
- 17:47:53 [Natasha]
- Agenda item 3. TF UPDATE
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- SWBPD FAQ proposal: last time we agreed to do it
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- Last week we decided that FAQ will be part of the Tutorial work
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- Topic: OEP TF
- 17:49:51 [Natasha]
- ACTION Guus review of part-whole draft
- 17:49:57 [Ralph]
- Yes, Benjamin volunteers for FAQ in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Mar/0213.html
- 17:50:28 [Natasha]
- completed: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0017.html
- 17:50:34 [Natasha]
- ACTION Bill review of part-whole draft
- 17:51:25 [Ralph]
- Regrets+ Brian
- 17:51:29 [Natasha]
- completed: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Mar/0209.html
- 17:51:48 [Natasha]
- There was also a review by Natasha: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Mar/0219.html
- 17:52:20 [guus]
- zakim who is here?
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- q?
- 17:53:02 [Ralph]
- Natasha: the current draft doesn't talk about any patterns at the instance level
- 17:53:29 [Ralph]
- Alan: there is a set of examples about geography that I wanted to deal with separately
- 17:53:45 [Ralph]
- ... have to be careful with expressing qualifiers
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- Natasha: I just wanted to point out to people that the relationships can be expressed just as a normal property
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- Alan: welcome additions from Natasha
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- publication status of OEP Notes
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- Chris cleaning up some pubrules violations
- 17:55:13 [ChrisW]
- ... in the specified values note
- 17:55:17 [Natasha]
- Ralph: Classes as values is ready to go; sent for transition approval; might be published today
- 17:55:50 [Natasha]
- Chris: no further progress on other OEP notes
- 17:57:04 [Ralph]
- Evan: semantics of business rules work has potential overlap with ODM
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- ... there is some coordination contention in OMG about how much consistency is desired between that spec and ODM
- 17:58:04 [Ralph]
- ... business rules work does not have a formal semantics
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- Topic: XML Schema datatypes
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- ACTION: jeff to coordinate editorial changes, formatting requirements, etc for XML schema dtypes
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- --done
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- ACTION: Ralph help Jeff and Jeremy with XML Schema Datatype publication request
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- -Chris
- 17:59:04 [Natasha]
- Natasha has left #swbp
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- -Natasha
- 17:59:34 [Ralph]
- Jeff: Vocabulary Management
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- TomB: DanBri drafted a small note "Some Things that HTTP URIs can name"
- 18:00:25 [Ralph]
- ... we wanted to cover things like this in the VM Note
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- ... intend to schedule some TF telecons in next 2-3 weeks
- 18:02:09 [Ralph]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/VM/httpclass/1 Some Things That Hashless HTTP URIs Can Name
- 18:02:26 [Ralph]
- DanBri: I'd like Task Force members to take a look at what I've started
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- Guus: can this be merged with the main document?
- 18:03:08 [Ralph]
- DanBri: the separate document may be a focal point for our interaction with TAG
- 18:03:27 [Ralph]
- TomB: the material might be 2-3 paragraphs in the main document, so it is appropriate to have it separate for now
- 18:04:00 [Ralph]
- Topic: RDF in XHTML
- 18:04:19 [Ralph]
- ACTION: DanBri help write an rdf schema for the additional xhtml2 namespace elements
- 18:04:44 [Ralph]
- DanBri: I had assumed that this action would be triggered by a new XHTML2 Working Draft
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- ralph: tf had a telecon earlier this week
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- ...both mark b. and steven p attended
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- ...update in the public record from them
- 18:05:36 [danbri]
- ... a new URI for an editor's draft (not on the w3.org site)
- 18:05:49 [danbri]
- (http://www.w3.org/2005/03/28-editor-style.html btw defines Editor's Drafts; a new page)
- 18:05:59 [danbri]
- ...not clear if we want to work from an editor's draft vs wait
- 18:06:39 [Ralph]
- ACTION: Gavin find out from his community and contacts if they have use cases
- 18:06:47 [Ralph]
- --continues
- 18:06:50 [Ralph]
- ACTION: Tom Baker ask DC colleagues if many use rdf inside html
- 18:07:02 [tbaker]
- can i respond to that?
- 18:07:21 [Ralph]
- TomB: I got two responses that I summarized to the WG list
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- ... can get more feedback if necessary
- 18:07:54 [Ralph]
- -- action complete
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- ACTION: BenA set a time for the RDF-in-XHTML telecons
- 18:08:05 [Ralph]
- -- done
- 18:08:16 [Ralph]
- ACTION: the rdf in html tf to discuss whether GRIDDL needs to work on XHTML2 documents
- 18:08:25 [Ralph]
- -- continues
- 18:08:43 [Ralph]
- Guus: this seems a general goal of the TF, propose to withdraw
- 18:08:54 [Ralph]
- -- action withdrawn
- 18:09:17 [Ralph]
- Guus: only action DanBri and action Gavin still outstanding
- 18:09:39 [Ralph]
- DanBri: it is important to have a way to extract RDF from RDF/A
- 18:09:50 [Ralph]
- ... this should be a part of the TF agenda
- 18:10:10 [Ralph]
- Guus: I asked Jeremy to give a talk on the status of this work at WWW2005
- 18:10:23 [danbri]
- (reason for fussing on this is that the qnames-in-attribute values aspect complicates things, as it raises the Q of whether GRDDLs are XSLT 1.0 or 2.0, how to deploy w/ both environments, etc etc.)
- 18:10:23 [Ralph]
- ... am worried that there may not be a public WD by then
- 18:11:15 [Ralph]
- Ralph: we are putting a lot of pressure on the HTML WG to issue a new public WD
- 18:11:30 [Ralph]
- Topic: RDFTM
- 18:11:43 [Ralph]
- Guus: constructive comments from Steve Newcomb
- 18:11:47 [Ralph]
- Topic: ADTF
- 18:11:58 [libby]
- [[
- 18:11:58 [Ralph]
- Libby: I've been looking at the notes from Boston f2f
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- *
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- only applications and demos with their own [WWW]DOAP descriptions will be included
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- *
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- only freely downloadable apps and demos will be included unless they are products of a W3C member company
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- *
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- for the time being only RDF, RDFS and OWL applications will be included
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- ]]
- 18:12:36 [Ralph]
- Libby: have we made an official decision on these criteria?
- 18:12:54 [Ralph]
- Ralph: I thought the meeting gave the authority to the TF to decide the criteria
- 18:13:01 [Ralph]
- Libby: good, we'll send a note out then
- 18:13:41 [Ralph]
- Topic: Tutorial Page
- 18:13:54 [Ralph]
- Guus: Benjamin and Jeff volunteered to work on this
- 18:14:44 [Ralph]
- ... happy to have two people
- 18:15:21 [Ralph]
- ... I'd like a simple procedure proposed for people to submit questions
- 18:15:35 [Ralph]
- ... per Alan's suggestion in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Mar/0097.html
- 18:15:57 [JeffP]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Mar/0215.html
- 18:16:03 [Ralph]
- ACTION: Jeff to talk with Benjamin to propose a process for submission of FAQ questions
- 18:16:17 [Ralph]
- Topic: SE TF
- 18:16:43 [Ralph]
- Jeff: telecon considered whether automated software engineering experts were needed in the TF
- 18:16:50 [Ralph]
- ... consensus of TF was that we do need such expertise
- 18:17:32 [Ralph]
- Guus: for an invited expert, we need a good description of a person with the required expertise and an explanation of why this expertise is not available among the W3C Membership
- 18:18:16 [Ralph]
- ... main point is that the critical expertise is not present in the WG and justification for why the recommended person works for an organization that is not a W3C Member
- 18:19:05 [Ralph]
- Jeff: re status of draft: we're working on Michael and David's comments
- 18:19:13 [guus]
- q?
- 18:19:18 [Ralph]
- ... example section is being restructured
- 18:19:57 [Ralph]
- ... we would like more review of the existing examples in the draft
- 18:20:11 [Ralph]
- ... Michael suggested that we need an example for section 3.3
- 18:20:32 [Ralph]
- ... we would like the WG to supply an example for 3.3 else we will drop that section
- 18:20:55 [Ralph]
- ... we hope to have a document for review by 23 April
- 18:21:32 [Ralph]
- ... proposed idea section will make the concept of ontology-driven architecture more clear
- 18:22:13 [Ralph]
- ... we have a workshop proposal on "Semantic Web Enabled Software Engineering" for ISWC accepted, chaired by Evan
- 18:22:31 [Ralph]
- Guus: a report of that workshop would be a useful contribution to this group
- 18:22:38 [Ralph]
- Topic: PORT TF
- 18:23:06 [danbri]
- Alistair's PORT TF summary: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Apr/0015.html (i) SKOS core ready to go (ii) Tom has some issues (which he'll summarise) (iii) minor comments re Publishing thes doc.
- 18:23:33 [Ralph]
- DanBri: we have 3 documents that we hope to publish at the same time
- 18:23:39 [Ralph]
- ... all have been reviewed
- 18:23:46 [Ralph]
- ... SKOS Core Guide appears to be ready to go
- 18:23:59 [Ralph]
- ... SKOS Core Specifications had some comments from TomB
- 18:24:25 [Ralph]
- TomB: my comments were to be precise about the relationship between parts of the specification and the corresponding RDF schema
- 18:24:39 [danbri]
- (re status w.r.t. notion of Editor's Draft, we can now cite http://www.w3.org/2005/03/28-editor-style.html to explain what these are)
- 18:24:51 [Ralph]
- TomB:... which version is authoritative?
- 18:25:09 [Ralph]
- ... when changes are made, how to describe what the status of those changes will be
- 18:25:29 [Ralph]
- ... some additional citations needed for people to find explanations of the different document types
- 18:25:55 [Ralph]
- ... some more work needs to be done, but these are not issues that should hold up publication
- 18:26:21 [Ralph]
- DanBri: 3rd doc is Quick Guide to Publishing a Thesaurus on the Semantic Web
- 18:26:33 [Ralph]
- ... some debate about whether to use the word "publish" or "convert"
- 18:26:48 [Ralph]
- ... I think the 3 documents are basically ready to go
- 18:27:54 [Ralph]
- Guus: we need a proposal on the agenda to approve these for publication
- 18:28:42 [Ralph]
- ... I am willing to handle the publication proposal by mail if the TF wishes
- 18:29:16 [Ralph]
- TomB: I expect to sit down with Alistair next week and we can review the draft then
- 18:29:43 [Ralph]
- Guus: we'll propose to consider publication of the set of 3 documents at the next telecon
- 18:29:53 [Ralph]
- ... TF can ask for earlier consideration by mail if you wish
- 18:30:00 [danbri]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/03/28-editor-style.html
- 18:30:10 [Ralph]
- DanBri: editors should note Style Guide for Internal Editors Drafts
- 18:31:22 [Zakim]
- -Alan
- 18:31:23 [Ralph]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2005AprJun/0012.html Style for Group-internal Drafts (or, "How to avoid confusion with TR page documents") [Ian Jacobs 2005-04-07]
- 18:31:26 [Ralph]
- adjourned
- 18:31:29 [Zakim]
- -Evan_Wallace
- 18:31:31 [Zakim]
- -Gary_Ng
- 18:31:32 [Zakim]
- -Jeff
- 18:31:32 [Zakim]
- -David_Wood
- 18:31:33 [Zakim]
- -Tom_Baker.a
- 18:31:35 [Zakim]
- -Ralph
- 18:31:56 [Zakim]
- -bristol
- 18:32:03 [Zakim]
- -Guus
- 18:32:40 [Zakim]
- -Darren_Govoni
- 18:33:16 [Zakim]
- SW_BPD()1:00PM has ended
- 18:33:17 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Ralph, Aldo, Darren_Govoni, danbri, libby, Evan_Wallace, Jeff, Gary_Ng, [IPcaller], Natasha, Guus, +1.703.418.aaaa, Chris, David_Wood, Alan, Tom_Baker
- 18:33:35 [Ralph]
- rrsagent, please make logs world-visible
- 18:33:45 [Ralph]
- rrsagent, please draft minutes
- 18:33:45 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-minutes.html Ralph
- 18:34:05 [Ralph]
- rrsagent, bye
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- I see 13 open action items:
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: chairs & ralph to organise straw poll on f2f location [1]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T17-16-10
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Guus to organise straw poll on f2f location [2]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T17-16-42
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ralph investigate what action may be taken when an [3]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T17-18-23
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Aldo to update the TF description [4]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T17-25-25
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Chairs to discuss the httpRange-14 issue at the coordination level [5]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T17-43-30
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: jeff to coordinate editorial changes, formatting requirements, etc for XML schema dtypes [6]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T17-58-40
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ralph help Jeff and Jeremy with XML Schema Datatype publication request [7]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T17-58-59
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: DanBri help write an rdf schema for the additional xhtml2 namespace elements [8]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T18-04-19
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Gavin find out from his community and contacts if they have use cases [9]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T18-06-39
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Tom Baker ask DC colleagues if many use rdf inside html [10]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T18-06-50
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: BenA set a time for the RDF-in-XHTML telecons [11]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T18-07-59
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: the rdf in html tf to discuss whether GRIDDL needs to work on XHTML2 documents [12]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T18-08-16
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Jeff to talk with Benjamin to propose a process for submission of FAQ questions [13]
- 18:34:05 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/04/07-swbp-irc#T18-16-03
- 18:34:17 [dgovoni]
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