IRC log of eo on 2005-04-01
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2005/04/01-eo-irc
- 13:28:49 [pasquale]
- I try in italy and for teleconference and is ok; and cheap ;-)
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- zakim, this will be eo
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- ok, shadi, I see WAI_EOWG()8:30AM already started
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 13:29:08 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Carol
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- +Shadi
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- +Jack
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- +Doyle_Burnett
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- +??P3
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- zakim, Doyle_Burnett is Justin
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- +Justin; got it
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- zakim, please mute me
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- Justin should now be muted
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- ZAKIM, CODE?
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- the conference code is 3694 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), shawn
- 13:31:41 [Justin]
- zakim, ??P3 is Wayne
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- +Wayne; got it
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- +Shawn
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- ZAKIM, WHO IS HERE?
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- On the phone I see Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn
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- On IRC I see carol, Zakim, RRSAgent, Wayne, pasquale, Justin, shadi, shawn
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- +Judy
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- +Bingham
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- scribenick: wayne
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- scribe: Wayne
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- +[IPcaller]
- 13:34:37 [shawn]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2005JanMar/0194.html
- 13:34:58 [Wayne]
- Topic: Outreach
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- Topic: WAI Site Redesign
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- +??P10
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- zakim, please mute me
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- Justin was already muted, Justin
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- zakim, please unmute me
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- Justin should no longer be muted
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- +??P11
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- 13:41:22 [Wayne]
- Shawn: Redesign was simplified
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- ??P11 is Andrew
- 13:42:19 [Wayne]
- Shadi: I like it.
- 13:42:28 [Andrew]
- zakim, ??P11 is Andrew
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- +Andrew; got it
- 13:42:31 [Wayne]
- Justin: Did I miss a meeting?
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- Shawn: April Fools.
- 13:43:22 [Justin]
- zakim, please mute me
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- Justin should now be muted
- 13:43:30 [Andrew]
- I obvioulsy missed the joke - teach me to be late :-)
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- :)
- 13:44:29 [shawn]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ut1/Overview.html is an April Fools Joke
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- Harvey Joined
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- zakim, who is here?
- 13:44:46 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, [IPcaller], ??P10, Andrew
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- On IRC I see Harvey, shadi, Andrew, judy, carol, Zakim, RRSAgent, Wayne, pasquale, Justin, shawn
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- 13:45:12 [pasquale]
- zachim, [IPcaller] is Pasquale
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- zakim, ???P10 is Henk
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- sorry, shawn, I do not recognize a party named '???P10'
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- zakim, ??P10 is Henk
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- +Henk; got it
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- zakim, [IPcaller] is Pasquale
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- +Pasquale; got it
- 13:46:07 [shawn]
- zakim, who is here?
- 13:46:07 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, Pasquale, Henk, Andrew
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- On IRC I see shadi_, Harvey, shadi, Andrew, judy, carol, Zakim, RRSAgent, Wayne, pasquale, Justin, shawn
- 13:46:22 [Wayne]
- Topic 3: WAI Translation
- 13:46:24 [shawn]
- presnt: Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, Pasquale, Henk, Andrew
- 13:46:41 [shawn]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ut1/Overview.html is an April Fools Joke
- 13:46:56 [Andrew]
- Nice comments for Shawn "Liking the crisp, clear style of these new WAI documents by Shawn Lawton Henry" - see http://www.accessify.com/2005/04/new-basic-principles-documents-from.asp
- 13:47:18 [shawn]
- present: Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, Pasquale, Henk, Andrew
- 13:50:26 [Wayne]
- Judy: Bringing the whole group together on a breakout from Boston that addressed updates to WAI Translation Priorities
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- Shawn: Are there any documents missing; do we need to change the order.
- 13:53:52 [Justin]
- Justin was
- 13:56:36 [Wayne]
- Henk: Bold and Italic text are not readable; inconsistent wording; schedule is unrealistic
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- 13:57:09 [judy]
- ...and name of doc is different
- 13:58:01 [Wayne]
- Henk: (Wording) What is a companion document?
- 14:01:25 [Wayne]
- Henk: Several links don't work properly, WCAG links didn't work;
- 14:01:30 [Andrew]
- documents that we DO NOT want translated should not be in the list - add them when we are ready for translations
- 14:02:05 [Wayne]
- Shawn: Incomplete documents are listed for planning; not translation
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- Andrew: There are other documents that are stable, but not in the list. One might want to translate these.
- 14:04:42 [Wayne]
- Judy: Unstable documents should be moved to the bottom of the order, but marked more clearly.
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- Andrew: Why not note as comming soon.
- 14:05:55 [Wayne]
- Judy: Worries that the priority may be distorted be comming soon designation.
- 14:11:28 [Wayne]
- Pasquale: The list is right. Confusing to have the suites split. List together so the job can be done at once.
- 14:13:15 [Wayne]
- Shawn: The split represents priority and merging again does not reflect priorities.
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- -Judy
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- sorry, rejoining
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- +Judy
- 14:19:41 [Wayne]
- Shawn: Is it more important to move related components up or to group suites.
- 14:22:30 [shawn]
- q+ to say planning to send to translators list
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- ack shawn
- 14:23:04 [Zakim]
- shawn, you wanted to say planning to send to translators list
- 14:26:47 [Wayne]
- Topic 3: Next Face to Face
- 14:27:07 [shawn]
- dates in June - after 8 June
- 14:31:18 [Wayne]
- Judy: There will be an opportunity to meet in Europe in June 1- June 10?
- 14:31:32 [Wayne]
- Pasquale: Free in June
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- Henk: May have a conflict.
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- Topic Evaluation Resource Suite
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- Judy: Two issues restructuring and how the individuals documents work independently
- 14:38:03 [Wayne]
- Henk: Likes the Evaluation Overview for its organization of the other documents.
- 14:38:26 [Justin]
- looks good
- 14:38:33 [Wayne]
- Carol: The split makes sense.
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- Shdi: Does "Preliminary Review" stand on its own, and does the internal restructuring work.
- 14:43:27 [Wayne]
- Pasquale: Works well, in last section 5: Link to previous step.
- 14:45:11 [Wayne]
- Andrew: Users of preliminary review may not know best practices so Section 5, first point might be confusing.
- 14:46:43 [Wayne]
- Shadi: Change Best Practices to Positive Aspects to accomodate first time users.
- 14:48:22 [Wayne]
- Harvey: Reccommends adding Step 6 from the last point "reccommend follow up steps".
- 14:51:38 [Wayne]
- Judy: Move to "Comprehensive Review"
- 14:53:44 [Wayne]
- Judy: Should we replace Comrehensive with possibly Conformance. It is not comprehesisve because it does not include usability.
- 14:54:31 [Wayne]
- Andrew: This point of view will require some change of the content.
- 15:01:39 [Justin]
- yes
- 15:03:53 [Justin]
- zakim, please unmute me
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- Justin should no longer be muted
- 15:08:25 [Wayne]
- Shadi: Some links may be confusing, back links to definition, links outside of the document.
- 15:08:30 [Justin]
- zakim, please mute me
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- Justin should now be muted
- 15:10:54 [Wayne]
- Andrew: Change bullet shape to communicate heirarchy.
- 15:16:31 [carol]
- Carol is off for a minute
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- Andrew: Merge Overview with Introduction
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- Carol is back
- 15:24:04 [Wayne]
- Shawn: There are more additions that may result in overloaded section; Could we still work with the same partition and see how it works when the site is more complete.
- 15:24:45 [Wayne]
- Andres: Change Overview to Introducing Evaluation...
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- -Justin
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- -Andrew
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- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/04/01-eo-minutes.html shawn
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin, Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, Andrew, Henk, Pasquale
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2003/template.html
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