IRC log of eo on 2005-04-01

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13:28:49 [pasquale]
I try in italy and for teleconference and is ok; and cheap ;-)
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zakim, this will be eo
13:29:00 [Zakim]
ok, shadi, I see WAI_EOWG()8:30AM already started
13:29:08 [shadi]
zakim, who is on the phone?
13:29:08 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Carol
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+Shadi
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+Jack
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+Doyle_Burnett
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+??P3
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zakim, Doyle_Burnett is Justin
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+Justin; got it
13:31:28 [Justin]
zakim, please mute me
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Justin should now be muted
13:31:35 [shawn]
ZAKIM, CODE?
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the conference code is 3694 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), shawn
13:31:41 [Justin]
zakim, ??P3 is Wayne
13:31:41 [Zakim]
+Wayne; got it
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+Shawn
13:32:02 [shawn]
ZAKIM, WHO IS HERE?
13:32:02 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn
13:32:03 [Zakim]
On IRC I see carol, Zakim, RRSAgent, Wayne, pasquale, Justin, shadi, shawn
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+Judy
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+Bingham
13:33:23 [shawn]
scribenick: wayne
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scribe: Wayne
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+[IPcaller]
13:34:37 [shawn]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2005JanMar/0194.html
13:34:58 [Wayne]
Topic: Outreach
13:36:47 [Wayne]
Topic: WAI Site Redesign
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+??P10
13:39:29 [Justin]
zakim, please mute me
13:39:29 [Zakim]
Justin was already muted, Justin
13:40:16 [Justin]
zakim, please unmute me
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Justin should no longer be muted
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+??P11
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13:41:22 [Wayne]
Shawn: Redesign was simplified
13:42:06 [Andrew]
??P11 is Andrew
13:42:19 [Wayne]
Shadi: I like it.
13:42:28 [Andrew]
zakim, ??P11 is Andrew
13:42:28 [Zakim]
+Andrew; got it
13:42:31 [Wayne]
Justin: Did I miss a meeting?
13:42:43 [Wayne]
Shawn: April Fools.
13:43:22 [Justin]
zakim, please mute me
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Justin should now be muted
13:43:30 [Andrew]
I obvioulsy missed the joke - teach me to be late :-)
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13:44:06 [Justin]
:)
13:44:29 [shawn]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ut1/Overview.html is an April Fools Joke
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zakim, who is here?
13:44:46 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, [IPcaller], ??P10, Andrew
13:44:48 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Harvey, shadi, Andrew, judy, carol, Zakim, RRSAgent, Wayne, pasquale, Justin, shawn
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13:45:12 [pasquale]
zachim, [IPcaller] is Pasquale
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zakim, ???P10 is Henk
13:45:37 [Zakim]
sorry, shawn, I do not recognize a party named '???P10'
13:45:44 [shawn]
zakim, ??P10 is Henk
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+Henk; got it
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zakim, [IPcaller] is Pasquale
13:46:03 [Zakim]
+Pasquale; got it
13:46:07 [shawn]
zakim, who is here?
13:46:07 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, Pasquale, Henk, Andrew
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On IRC I see shadi_, Harvey, shadi, Andrew, judy, carol, Zakim, RRSAgent, Wayne, pasquale, Justin, shawn
13:46:22 [Wayne]
Topic 3: WAI Translation
13:46:24 [shawn]
presnt: Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, Pasquale, Henk, Andrew
13:46:41 [shawn]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ut1/Overview.html is an April Fools Joke
13:46:56 [Andrew]
Nice comments for Shawn "Liking the crisp, clear style of these new WAI documents by Shawn Lawton Henry" - see http://www.accessify.com/2005/04/new-basic-principles-documents-from.asp
13:47:18 [shawn]
present: Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin (muted), Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, Pasquale, Henk, Andrew
13:50:26 [Wayne]
Judy: Bringing the whole group together on a breakout from Boston that addressed updates to WAI Translation Priorities
13:51:15 [Wayne]
Shawn: Are there any documents missing; do we need to change the order.
13:53:52 [Justin]
Justin was
13:56:36 [Wayne]
Henk: Bold and Italic text are not readable; inconsistent wording; schedule is unrealistic
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13:57:09 [judy]
...and name of doc is different
13:58:01 [Wayne]
Henk: (Wording) What is a companion document?
14:01:25 [Wayne]
Henk: Several links don't work properly, WCAG links didn't work;
14:01:30 [Andrew]
documents that we DO NOT want translated should not be in the list - add them when we are ready for translations
14:02:05 [Wayne]
Shawn: Incomplete documents are listed for planning; not translation
14:03:35 [Wayne]
Andrew: There are other documents that are stable, but not in the list. One might want to translate these.
14:04:42 [Wayne]
Judy: Unstable documents should be moved to the bottom of the order, but marked more clearly.
14:05:12 [Wayne]
Andrew: Why not note as comming soon.
14:05:55 [Wayne]
Judy: Worries that the priority may be distorted be comming soon designation.
14:11:28 [Wayne]
Pasquale: The list is right. Confusing to have the suites split. List together so the job can be done at once.
14:13:15 [Wayne]
Shawn: The split represents priority and merging again does not reflect priorities.
14:17:50 [Zakim]
-Judy
14:18:04 [judy]
sorry, rejoining
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+Judy
14:19:41 [Wayne]
Shawn: Is it more important to move related components up or to group suites.
14:22:30 [shawn]
q+ to say planning to send to translators list
14:23:04 [shawn]
ack shawn
14:23:04 [Zakim]
shawn, you wanted to say planning to send to translators list
14:26:47 [Wayne]
Topic 3: Next Face to Face
14:27:07 [shawn]
dates in June - after 8 June
14:31:18 [Wayne]
Judy: There will be an opportunity to meet in Europe in June 1- June 10?
14:31:32 [Wayne]
Pasquale: Free in June
14:31:52 [Wayne]
Henk: May have a conflict.
14:35:05 [Wayne]
Topic Evaluation Resource Suite
14:35:51 [Wayne]
Judy: Two issues restructuring and how the individuals documents work independently
14:38:03 [Wayne]
Henk: Likes the Evaluation Overview for its organization of the other documents.
14:38:26 [Justin]
looks good
14:38:33 [Wayne]
Carol: The split makes sense.
14:40:56 [Wayne]
Shdi: Does "Preliminary Review" stand on its own, and does the internal restructuring work.
14:43:27 [Wayne]
Pasquale: Works well, in last section 5: Link to previous step.
14:45:11 [Wayne]
Andrew: Users of preliminary review may not know best practices so Section 5, first point might be confusing.
14:46:43 [Wayne]
Shadi: Change Best Practices to Positive Aspects to accomodate first time users.
14:48:22 [Wayne]
Harvey: Reccommends adding Step 6 from the last point "reccommend follow up steps".
14:51:38 [Wayne]
Judy: Move to "Comprehensive Review"
14:53:44 [Wayne]
Judy: Should we replace Comrehensive with possibly Conformance. It is not comprehesisve because it does not include usability.
14:54:31 [Wayne]
Andrew: This point of view will require some change of the content.
15:01:39 [Justin]
yes
15:03:53 [Justin]
zakim, please unmute me
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Justin should no longer be muted
15:08:25 [Wayne]
Shadi: Some links may be confusing, back links to definition, links outside of the document.
15:08:30 [Justin]
zakim, please mute me
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Justin should now be muted
15:10:54 [Wayne]
Andrew: Change bullet shape to communicate heirarchy.
15:16:31 [carol]
Carol is off for a minute
15:19:40 [Wayne]
Andrew: Merge Overview with Introduction
15:21:41 [carol]
Carol is back
15:24:04 [Wayne]
Shawn: There are more additions that may result in overloaded section; Could we still work with the same partition and see how it works when the site is more complete.
15:24:45 [Wayne]
Andres: Change Overview to Introducing Evaluation...
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-Justin
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-Bingham
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-Shadi
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-Carol
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-Henk
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-Jack
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-Andrew
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-Pasquale
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rrsagent, make logs world
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/04/01-eo-minutes.html shawn
15:28:19 [shawn]
zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were Carol, Shadi, Jack, Justin, Wayne, Shawn, Judy, Bingham, Andrew, Henk, Pasquale
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/2003/template.html
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