W3C

Web Services CG

15 Mar 2005

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Jonathan_Marsh, [IPcaller], Steve, MChapman, Mike_Mahan, Hugo, SteveRT, MarkN, Michael
Regrets
Chair
Steve
Scribe
Hugo

Contents


 

 

<scribe> Scribe: Hugo

Approval of minutes

http://www.w3.org/2005/02/15-ws-cg-minutes.html approved

Notes from TP lunch

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2005Mar/0004.html have been sent to the mailing list

Schedule updates

Jonathan: Addressing and Description are meeting 19-22 in the Bay area
... and we're meeting from May 30 to June 3 in Berlin

<scribe> ACTION: Hugo to add Berlin meeting to calendar [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action01]

Review action items

<scribe> ACTION: Hugo to (possibly) work on an updated glossary and bring it for review [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Hugo to book table for lunch on Wednesday 2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Hugo to contact Eric Miller about WSCG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: Hugo to send email about XML 1.1 support and then dropping in WSDL 2.0 [PENDING] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Hugo will circulate to the CG Glen Daniels summary email about this issue from the task force employed to look at it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Hugo will cirulate to the CG David Orchards slides on this issue as they may contain useful context and usecase information [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action07]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Steve will put this on the agenda for the 15th March in order to come to an agreed solution to resolve the issue by the CG. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Martin Chapman will circulate the necessary material to the WS-CHOR WG to ensure they have the chance to input to this issue. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action09]

WS-Addressing Issue to resolve

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-cg/2005Mar/0003.html

Steve: do we want to wait for Mark?

Jonathan: the Async TF is still going on
... it didn't meet last week but is supposed to work tomorrow
... the invitation to participate has been extended to the XMLP WG

Steve: I wanted to discuss the division of the work

Jonathan: I'm not sure that we're ready
... we still have some fuzziness in the scenarios

Mike: I invited Mark to make an official invitation to the WG w.r.t. the taskforce
... XMLP is meeting tomorrow, and we will discuss that in the call

Jonathan: it's not clear that the Addressing Group has made any formal request

Mike: yes, this has been entirely informal

Mark: I agree with Jonathan that need to investigate a little more
... I will have informal discussions with XMLP to see how much interest we have

W3C Workshop on XML Schema 1.0 User Experiences and Interoperability

<SRT> The have been discussion about using schema to deal with interop problems. W3C is thinking of organisting a workshop in which experiences can be exchanged, identify interop problems and to imporve the shcmea test suite (and one other item I didn;t manage to get)

<SRT> ah: to demonstrate their implementations

Jonathan: how are people going to demonstrate interop?

Michael: we haven't decided yet

Jonathan: what if a user was showing how the vendors don't interoperate

Michael: we don't want to put the vendors on the spot, and yet the users will want to do so

Jonathan: this seems to be coming from the best practice group from WS-I
... I don't think that it's going anywhere
... an example: how to validate anyURI? you can do it at several levels
... Schema is a huge space
... I don't know why the Schema Group hasn't been the recipient of more more errata reports
... it's what happened in XML Core, but I'm not sure why this hasn't worked with Schema

Michael will talk to people offline

Michael: any conflicts with 21-22 June?

<inserted> Mark: XML Prague is the next week-end, but no direct conflict

WS WG reports and issues

-- Choreography

Martin: we are processing our LC issues
... we have processed all our P1's and P2's issues at the F2F
... we are looking into the P3 ones now
... we're still targetting the end of May for CR

Steve: we have an issue: Issue: Xpath2.0 and support for three valued logic as well as existential qualifiers?
... who should we punt this to?
... a work unit has a boolean expressing that we want to query with XPath; it could be true, false, or absent (null)
... who do we need to speak to to find out whether XPath 2.0 will support that?

Michael: there have been discussions around this
... but I don't the answer
... however, I'm a good point of contact

<scribe> ACTION: Martin to contact Michael about issue about XPath 2.0 and support for three valued logic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action10]

-- Description

Jonathan: we had a fairly productive F2F
... we still have about 55 issues to go through
... we have tackled the biggest ones

-- XMLP

Mike: we are trying to finish the PER for SOAP 1.2
... we now are investigating printing issues

-- Addressing

Mark: we're down to 1 issue to go to LC with Core and the SOAP binding
... we seem to be going in circles about it
... we should able to close it next week
... I'll be contacting chairs about reviewing the document

-- XML

Michael: we've discussed the workshop already

Addressing LC

Mark: it would be nice to know when groups would be able to do a review
... suppose that we could be going to LC next week
... would groups be able to give us comments by April 19?

Jonathan: WSDWG should have no problem

Mike: should we choose reviewers who are in the Addressing WG or others?

Mark: I've seen it happen both ways

Jonathan: it all depends on what candidates you get

Steve: Choreography will be interested in reviewing them
... we should be able to review the documents fairly rapidly
... I don't see any major issue with April 19

Mike: XMLP shoudl be fine too

Mark: that will give us a nice segue into our face-to-face

Next meeting

29 March

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Hugo to add Berlin meeting to calendar [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Martin to contact Michael about issue about XPath 2.0 and support for three valued logic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action10]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Hugo to (possibly) work on an updated glossary and bring it for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Hugo to send email about XML 1.1 support and then dropping in WSDL 2.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action05]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Hugo to book table for lunch on Wednesday 2 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action03]
[DONE] ACTION: Hugo to contact Eric Miller about WSCG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: Hugo will circulate to the CG Glen Daniels summary email about this issue from the task force employed to look at it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Hugo will cirulate to the CG David Orchards slides on this issue as they may contain useful context and usecase information [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Martin Chapman will circulate the necessary material to the WS-CHOR WG to ensure they have the chance to input to this issue. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Steve will put this on the agenda for the 15th March in order to come to an agreed solution to resolve the issue by the CG. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/03/15-ws-cg-minutes.html#action08]
 
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