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18:34:04 <DanC_> Zakim, this will be dawg
18:34:04 <Zakim> ok, DanC_; I see SW_DAWG(TP)2:00PM scheduled to start in 26 minutes
18:34:12 <DanC_> agenda + Convene, take roll, review records and agenda http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ftf5-bos.html#agenda
18:34:28 <DanC_> agenda + issue: nestedOptionals
18:34:39 <DanC_> agenda + f2f6 proposals
18:35:44 <DanC_> agenda + test suite maintenance
18:35:55 <DanC_> agenda + valueTesting
18:36:02 <DanC_> agenda + XSCH review
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18:45:17 <Yoshio> hi all
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18:50:59 <DanC_> Amy? I don't see OlympiaC in http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/dialout.php3
18:51:05 <amy> hi
18:51:50 <Zakim> SW_DAWG(TP)2:00PM has now started
18:51:52 <Zakim> +OlympiaC
18:52:25 <amy> C, yes, ok good
18:52:38 <amy> np
18:52:39 <amy> bye
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19:00:57 <DanC_> Zakim, take up agendum 1
19:00:57 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review records and agenda http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ftf5-bos.html#agenda" taken up [from DanC_]
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19:01:21 <kendall> we're convened
19:01:25 <kendall> participants:
19:01:40 <kendall>     * Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> (W3C/MIT) : attending monday, tuesday
19:01:41 <kendall>     * Yoshio Fukushige <fuku@w3.org> (Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. (MEI)) : attending monday, tuesday
19:01:44 <kendall>     * Hiroyuki Sato <sato.hiroyuki@lab.ntt.co.jp> (Nippon Telegraph & Telephone Corp. (NTT)) : attending monday, tuesday
19:01:47 <kendall>     * Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@hp.com> (Hewlett Packard Company) : attending monday, tuesday
19:01:51 <kendall>     * Stephen Harris <swh@ecs.soton.ac.uk> (Southampton, University of) : attending monday, tuesday
19:01:54 <kendall>     * Kendall Clark <kendall@monkeyfist.com> (Maryland Information and Network Dynamics Lab at the University of Maryland) : attending monday, tuesday
19:01:58 <kendall>     * Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org> (W3C/MIT) : attending monday, tuesday
19:02:00 <kendall>     * Jos De Roo <jos.deroo@agfa.com> (Agfa-Gevaert N. V.) : attending monday, tuesday
19:02:03 <kendall> Plus:
19:02:06 <kendall> some observers:
19:02:14 <Yoshio> regrets for 8th meeting
19:02:23 <DanC_> ACTION DaveB: to consider use of xsi:dataType ala comment from Steer
19:02:37 <tlr> Thomas Roessler
19:02:40 <kendall> Ivan Herman, Jacek K.,
19:02:56 <DaveB> I can dialin for a bit.  But that action continues...
19:03:05 <kendall> hi dave!
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19:03:10 <DanC_> agenda?
19:03:19 <kendall> kendall has joined #dawg
19:03:47 <DaveB> hi kendall
19:03:56 <kendall> observer: Danny Weitzner
19:03:57 <DanC_> Zakim, close agendum 1
19:03:57 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
19:03:58 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
19:03:59 <Zakim> 2. issue: nestedOptionals [from DanC_]
19:04:02 <DanC_> Zakim, next agendum
19:04:03 <Zakim> agendum 2. "issue: nestedOptionals" taken up [from DanC_]
19:05:21 <kendall> [what's the latest re: nestedOptionals? latest QL draft 5.5. Been implemented and folks seem happy with it.]
19:05:56 <kendall> SteveH has same objections. "It's existence is unacceptable."
19:06:32 <kendall> DaveB has another proposal involving a side condition on the grammar.
19:07:10 <kendall> DaveB suggested making it not possible to *write* nested optionals, even though they'd still be possible semantically.
19:07:55 <kendall> SteveH fine with the DaveB proposal to "hide" nested optionals by disallowing them syntactically.
19:10:04 <kendall> debate about the relative merits of diff implementation strategies to implement nested optionals
19:11:36 <kendall> how much more difficult are these queries to write if you can't write nested optionals?
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19:15:26 <ericP> from [[
19:15:27 <ericP>       OPTIONAL { ( ?x vcard:N ?vc )
19:15:27 <ericP>                  ( ?vc vcard:Given ?gname )
19:15:27 <ericP>                  OPTIONAL ( ?vc vcard:Family ?fname ) }
19:15:30 <ericP> ]]
19:16:04 <kendall> Hmm, so we seem to agree that to write the equivalent query, you'll have to repeat some graph patterns
19:16:11 <ericP> to [[
19:16:13 <ericP>       OPTIONAL { ( ?x vcard:N ?vc )
19:16:13 <ericP>                  ( ?vc vcard:Given ?gname ) }
19:16:13 <ericP>       OPTIONAL { ( ?x vcard:N ?vc )
19:16:13 <ericP>                  ( ?vc vcard:Given ?gname )
19:16:16 <ericP>                  ( ?vc vcard:Family ?fname ) }
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19:16:18 <ericP> ]]
19:21:16 <Yoshio> is it that whether lack of appearence of B in the result means the failure of B or not?
19:24:04 <kendall> Jos suggests that in his system implementing nested optional (or just optional?) is difficult.
19:24:45 <SteveH> just optional
19:25:44 <kendall> debate about the value or advisability of making open or closed world assumption
19:28:25 <kendall> i think there are unshared views about the implications of OWA
19:29:35 <kendall> eric and jos discuss altenate  implementation strategies (translating sparql into n3, then filtering results... or something)
19:32:24 <kendall> Jos:
19:32:39 <kendall> A optional B has 2 interpretations:
19:32:47 <kendall> 1. A & (B v True)
19:32:53 <kendall> which creates unhelpful solutions
19:33:04 <kendall> 2. A & (B v ~B)
19:33:18 <kendall> which, if i follow, implies some closed world assumption, but works
19:33:38 <kendall> for jos
19:34:35 <Yoshio> so absence of B in the result means, in the 2nd interpretation, the failure of B? 
19:35:04 <kendall> danc suggests making the parts of QL that involve CWAs more explicit
19:35:17 <kendall> ACTION: AndyS to clarify 5.4 w/r/t closed world assumption
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19:36:05 <kendall> back to *nested* optionals
19:39:34 <Yoshio> my concern is that the restriction on the use of the variable names is complicated...
19:42:22 <Yoshio> I have to write 
19:42:33 <Yoshio> SELECT ?a ?b ?c
19:42:52 <Yoshio> WHERE OPTIONAL (?a foo ?b)
19:43:07 <Yoshio> OPTIONAL (?a bar ?c)
19:43:30 <Yoshio> enen when all I want to know is ?a and the other sole thing
19:44:11 <SteveH> SELECT ?a ?b OPTIONAL (?a ?p ?b) AND ?p=<foo> || ?p=<bar>
19:45:30 <AndyS> Drop OPTIONAL (they were only there to structure the first appraoch)
19:46:01 <DanC_> leaving... SELECT ?a ?b WHERE (?a ?p ?b) AND ?p=<foo> || ?p=<bar>
19:51:29 <Yoshio> hmm,,, I got inclined to draw my concern back... I can't tell which OPTIONAL is met without distinguishing ?b and ?c
19:53:25 <Yoshio> there should be many situations where I wnat to konw which
19:53:51 <kendall> ACTION: danc resume discussion of nestedOptionals
19:54:18 <DanC_> Zakim, close this agendum
19:54:18 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
19:54:19 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
19:54:21 <Zakim> 3. f2f6 proposals [from DanC_]
20:04:48 <DanC_> inconclusive data
20:05:48 <DanC_> how many to www2005? -JD +AS ~KC +YK +HS +EP +SH -DC
20:06:22 <patH> patH has joined #dawg
20:06:22 <DanC_> inconclusive data re amsterdam, southampton, florida, bristol offers
20:06:39 <patH> Hey, are we on the phone? What number?
20:06:40 <DanC_> Pat, where should we meet next? 1/2 ;-)
20:06:46 <DanC_> Zakim, passcode?
20:06:46 <Zakim> the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200), DanC_
20:07:16 <Zakim> +PatH
20:07:43 <Yoshio> WWW2005 is 10-14 May
20:08:22 <DanC_> www2005 ~-PH
20:09:57 <Yoshio> oh Dan is NOT coming... we should give up the hosting idea then...
20:09:59 <DanC_> Zakim, agenda?
20:09:59 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
20:10:00 <Zakim> 3. f2f6 proposals [from DanC_]
20:10:01 <Zakim> 4. test suite maintenance [from DanC_]
20:10:02 <Zakim> 5. valueTesting [from DanC_]
20:10:04 <Zakim> 6. XSCH review [from DanC_]
20:10:23 <DanC_> (then resume tomorrow with other stuff)
20:11:28 <DanC_> Zakim, next agendum
20:11:28 <Zakim> agendum 3. "f2f6 proposals" taken up [from DanC_]
20:11:34 <DanC_> Zakim, close item 3
20:11:34 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
20:11:35 <kendall> A one day meeting before (or after?) WWW05 got some interest.
20:11:35 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:11:37 <Zakim> 4. test suite maintenance [from DanC_]
20:11:41 <DanC_> Zakim, take up agendum 4
20:11:41 <Zakim> agendum 4. "test suite maintenance" taken up [from DanC_]
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20:13:55 <DanC_> SELECT ?PG WHERE ?PG =~ "http://www.w3.org/". # pls add this test case
20:14:08 <kendall> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/
20:14:37 <DanC_> SELECT ?PG WHERE ?PG dc:creator ?anybody AND ?PG =~ "http://www.w3.org/". # pls add this test case
20:14:54 <DanC_> should NOT match { <http://www.w3.org/"> dc:creator "anybody" }
20:15:33 <kendall> steve's action hereabouts continued
20:15:57 <kendall> (daveb's action re: xsi:datatype also continued earlier, in case that didn't get scribed)
20:16:04 <AndyS> Ivan - http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/
20:16:23 <Yoshio> how about (?u stringmatches: "http://www.w3.org/*) (?PG log;uri ?u)  
20:17:50 <kendall> (continued: ACTION: SteveH to to propose tests for str() and =~)
20:18:11 <kendall> ACTION: SteveH buy Andy a beer!
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20:19:53 <AndyS> GRAPH tests: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/source-named/untrusted-graph*.rq
20:20:03 <kendall> has PatH swapped in the new named graph stuff?
20:20:23 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#rdfDataset
20:20:33 <kendall> (keyword renaming... -sigh-)
20:22:39 <DanC_> (PatH finds the relevant tests, with andy's help)
20:23:33 <kendall> DanC withdraws suggesting formal defintions for SOURCE
20:24:00 <DanC_> (break 'till 3:40p Boston)
20:24:00 <Zakim> -PatH
20:39:12 <DanC_> agenda + SPARQL punctuation syntax (turtle, N3, ...)
20:40:34 <DanC_> agenda?
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20:42:06 <ericP> ping pat
20:42:45 <patH> hi guys. We back?
20:42:46 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2005/02/28-dawg-irc#T20-42-45
20:42:50 <ericP> yup
20:43:00 <Zakim> +PatH
20:43:20 <ericP> can you hear dan well (enough)?
20:43:42 <patH> just about. 
20:44:47 <ericP> [mutterings while looking for a particuarl test]
20:44:50 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/source-named/manifest.n3
20:47:32 <timbl> "requires a ton of my tools to build it"
20:48:46 <ericP> ACTION: EricP to pair with SteveH on making the HTML test results page
20:49:40 <DanC_> Zakim, next agendum
20:49:40 <Zakim> agendum 5. "valueTesting" taken up [from DanC_]
20:53:05 <ericP> walking through http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ExprEquals/query-eq-1.rq
20:54:25 <ericP> evaluated against http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ExprEquals/query-eq-1.rq
20:54:35 <timbl> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ExprEquals
20:54:41 <timbl> is the directory
20:54:44 <ericP> evaluated against http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ExprEquals/data-eq.ttl
20:55:45 <ericP> ivan: the parsers i use read "1" as 1
20:57:51 <ericP> [kendall warns that RDF/XML treatment of datatypes is broken]
20:58:41 <ericP> walking through http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/ExprEquals/query-eq2-1.rq
20:59:50 <patH> Pat protests that it may be ugly, but its not broken.
21:00:09 <kendall> no
21:00:23 <kendall> i warned that *rdflib* has no real typed literal support -- v. different issue
21:00:34 <ericP> equivlence test that can bind to one of several operators
21:00:41 <ericP> (answering yoshio)
21:01:22 <patH> Echo Yoshio. We seem to be using '=' for several differnt things.
21:02:01 <ericP> see 
21:02:01 <DanC_> SELECT ... AND ?p = dc1:title || ?p = dc2:title
21:02:09 <Yoshio> is it different from "=="?
21:02:10 <DanC_> also, users expect 1 = 1.0
21:02:23 <ericP> XPath overloading of the operators defined in http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery/#mapping
21:03:12 <DanC_> ack timbl
21:03:22 <timbl> q+ to suggest for every  = test case to make a test case with graph match
21:04:15 <timbl> q-
21:04:49 <ericP> tim: re-use the investment in value equiv test cases by copying them to graph test cases
21:05:10 <ericP> eg
21:05:11 <ericP>   (?x1 :p ?v1 )
21:05:11 <ericP>   (?x2 :p ?v2 )
21:05:11 <ericP>   AND ?v1 = ?v2
21:05:16 <ericP> goes to
21:05:27 <ericP> (?x1 :p ?v)
21:05:27 <patH> +q about entailing.
21:05:39 <ericP> (?x2 :p ?v)
21:05:41 <ericP> .
21:05:52 <Yoshio> q+ to ask if it is not "==" we are talikng about
21:06:11 <patH> Q+ 
21:06:38 <ericP> ACTION: Andy to add the above graph test cases
21:06:41 <DanC_> ack yoshio
21:06:41 <Zakim> Yoshio, you wanted to ask if it is not "==" we are talikng about
21:13:39 <DanC_> SELECT  ... WHERE (?exp :results ?x. ?exp2 :results ?y) AND ?x != ?y #@@@
21:13:42 <ericP> DanC: we don't have a spec that exactly matches the editor's understanding (cf. the == and eq in section 11)
21:14:13 <AndyS> SELECT  ... WHERE (?exp :results ?x) (?exp2 :results ?y) AND ?x != ?y
21:14:14 <DanC_> against { exp1 result "1/1"^^rational. exp2 result "2/2"^^rational)
21:15:19 <DanC_> ericp: the != will fail.
21:15:20 <DanC_> timbl: good
21:15:56 <DanC_> andys: or is it fn:not(?x = ?y) ?
21:17:15 <ericP> http://unagi/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#StandardOperations
21:17:31 <ericP> [[ Expressions generating errors cause the solution to be rejected (not to match). ]]
21:19:27 <DanC_> Andy convinces DanC (and EricP? and others?) that the != will turn into not( ... = ...) and yield true
21:20:27 <ericP> SteveH: propose "when you call the = op on datatypes that you don't understand, it fails"
21:21:26 <DanC_> ack path
21:22:47 <timbl> q+ to mention  need for warning levels when people have asked weird things such as type mismatches, e.g. comparing "wednesday" = 2.
21:22:50 <timbl> q-
21:22:52 <DanC_> ack jos
21:25:37 <timbl> q+ to suggest a appendix of places where the semantics of the operator differ from the F&O spec.      
21:25:50 <DanC_> "abc"^^integer
21:26:46 <ericP> ammend SteveH's proposal with first checking if the two are literally the same and the same integer
21:27:01 <ericP> s/integer/datatype/
21:27:03 <DanC_> REQUEST FOR TESTCASE: input data has "abc"^^integer
21:28:42 <DanC_> "10"^^byte = "10"^^integer?
21:29:51 <DanC_> "10"^^long = "10"^^integer
21:29:52 <DanC_> ?
21:30:33 <DanC_> "10"^^nonnegative = "10"^^integer?
21:30:45 <DanC_> REQUEST FOR TESTCASE
21:32:32 <DanC_> AndyS: for example, OWL uses nonnegativeinteger for cardianlity constraints
21:32:37 <DanC_> EricP seems convinced
21:32:42 <ericP> sadly so
21:33:06 <ivan> q+
21:33:36 <DanC_> ACTION EricP: propose to close valueTesting (bonus points for test cases, to EricP or others)
21:34:57 <DanC_> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-mt/#DTYPEINTERP
21:37:14 <DanC_> Zakim, next agendum
21:37:14 <Zakim> agendum 6. "XSCH review" taken up [from DanC_]
21:37:52 <DanC_> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/XSCH/xsch-sw-20050127/
21:38:11 <ericP> jacek: i would expect a W3C RDF query language to support all the XML schema datatypes and all of OWL
21:38:26 <ericP> patH: what does it mean to "support"?
21:39:29 <ericP> DanC: this sounds like requirements. take up in hallway discussion?
21:41:21 <SteveH> DaveB, observer, from DERI
21:41:48 <DaveB> I laughed when I read supporting all XSD and all owl.
21:42:12 <SteveH> yes, "laughed" ;)
21:50:57 <DanC_> Zakim, take up agendum 6
21:50:57 <Zakim> agendum 6. "XSCH review" taken up [from DanC_]
21:51:03 <patH> Hey, Im listening to a lovely exposition here. 
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21:52:29 <DanC_> ericp's action is withdrawn
21:52:42 <DanC_> Zakim, next agendum
21:52:42 <Zakim> agendum 7. "SPARQL punctuation syntax (turtle, N3, ...)" taken up [from DanC_]
21:53:42 <DanC_> DanC: since this wasn't on the agenda at T-2 weeks, I won't put any questions formally
21:57:34 <patH> q+ what exactly is meant here by N3? Is it just hte basic style of graph syntax used in N3?
21:58:38 <DanC_> EricP: but I don't argue to use  { ... } as a term
21:59:19 <patH> the phone is dropping out very freqently. Can yall turn up the mike?
21:59:34 <DanC_> ack path
21:59:47 <ivan> ivan-
21:59:55 <DanC_> see examples from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ftf4.html#item18
22:00:05 <ivan> q-
22:00:14 <ericP> turtle+variabels = turtle (with ',' and ';') + vars (eg ?x)
22:00:18 <timbl> q-\
22:00:22 <timbl> q-
22:01:17 <patH> Im happy with the N3 style as descrbed there. BUt Im also happy with turtle style.
22:02:11 <kendall> well, we've liberally changed keywords at just about every f2f, including helsinki, and that was only a month ago. :>
22:02:25 <patH> +kendall
22:02:39 <patH> Don't we all, Zakim
22:02:46 <kendall> hey! :>
22:02:57 <DanC_> timbl: for example S
22:03:11 <patH> example S??
22:03:24 <DanC_> timbl: for example SELECT ?who WHERE ?who :brother [ in Army ], :mother [ in Navy].
22:04:42 <kendall> a bnode in a graph pattern is == to an unused variable in a select or construct clause
22:04:45 <DanC_> andy: is that like ... ?who :brother ?notUsedElsewhere1. ?notUsedElsewhere1 in Army ... 
22:04:45 <DanC_> yes
22:04:59 <kendall> s/==/equivalent to/
22:05:22 <DanC_> Jos: in turtle, one can write :bob :brothers ( :pete :sam).
22:05:30 <ericP> turtle+variabels = turtle (with ',' and ';' and '()') + vars (eg ?x)
22:06:03 <DanC_> ... which suggests SELECT ?who WHERE ?who :borthers (:pete :sam).
22:06:40 <timbl> ; , .   ()  []    ?x
22:07:21 <patH> that's a pretty god transcription of what it sounds like on the phone, Tim
22:07:22 <JosD> see also http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2005JanMar/0111.html
22:08:28 <ericP> Yoshio, widely distributed, I believe the only implementations are from AndyS, DaveB and myself.
22:08:46 <DanC_> SteveH: my users are mostly folks dumping databases into RDF/XML
22:08:46 <ericP> and perhaps Ivan
22:09:04 <DanC_> SteveH: I support turtle input and noone uses it
22:11:32 <patH> DO we have to choose one? 
22:11:57 <kendall> we don't if/when we have an xml exchange syntax for sparql
22:12:14 <kendall> just map any old surface/user syntax into it, and send *that* to the server
22:14:30 <patH> That makes sense, indeed. XML to the rescue once again?
22:15:02 <kendall> well, you can then do neato schema web services stuff. that's gonna help adoption in areas where SW has little presently.
22:15:04 <AndyS> We need at least one common syntax for encoding into a protocol for web use
22:17:15 <patH> Maybe the issue is how the results get sent back. We need an XML for that too. 
22:17:38 <kendall> we have one for that, pat :>
22:18:38 <patH> Just testing.
22:19:37 <patH> I have to leave shortly. Don't do anything serious while Im gone.
22:19:44 <kendall> never!
22:25:45 <timbl> (([A-Z_a-z\u00c0-\u00d6\u00d8-\u00f6\u00f8-\u02ff\u0370-\u037d\u037f-\u1fff\u200c-\u200d\u2070-\u218f\u2c00-\u2fef\u3001-\ud7ff\uf900-\ufdcf\ufdf0-\ufffd\U00010000-\U000effff][\\-0-9A-Z_a-z\u00b7\u00c0-\u00d6\u00d8-\u00f6\u00f8-\u037d\u037f-\u1fff\u200c-\u200d\u203f-\u2040\u2070-\u218f\u2c00-\u2fef\u3001-\ud7ff\uf900-\ufdcf\ufdf0-\ufffd\U00010000-\U000effff]*)?:)?[A-Z_a-z\u00c0-\u00d6\u00d8-\u00f6\u00f8-\u02ff\u0370-\u037d\u037f-\u1fff\u200c-\u200d\u2070-\u218f\u2c
22:26:04 <timbl> qname in n3.n3
22:27:40 <AndyS> ?? Dot is UTF-8 002E
22:27:58 <Yoshio> doesn't "." in qname in N3 mean a path expression?
22:28:27 <patH> is that really ((...)?:)?...  ?? SO the : is optional?
22:30:24 <Yoshio> q+ to ask if "." in qname in N3 means a path expression
22:31:21 <DanC_> WHERE { GRAPH ?g  { ?g dc:source myPartOfUriSpace:foo.rdf } }  # sh, ar like this
22:32:23 <Yoshio> q-
22:33:07 <patH> Bye.
22:33:19 <Zakim> -PatH
22:35:20 <timbl> .BadSyntax: Line 5 of <file:/devel/WWW/2000/10/swap/test/syntax/trailing-dot-in-qname.n3>: Bad syntax (expected directive or statement) at ^ in:
22:35:23 <timbl> "...foo:  <http://example.com/>.
22:35:25 <timbl> foo:fred foo:loves foo:sushi. ^.
22:36:28 <timbl> Bad syntax (EOF found in middle of path syntax) at ^ in:
22:36:29 <timbl> "# DAWG meeting 2005-2-28
22:36:29 <timbl> #
22:36:29 <timbl> @prefix foo:  <http://example.com/>.
22:36:30 <timbl> foo:fred foo:loves foo:sushi.food .
22:36:32 <timbl> ^..."
22:38:20 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, OlympiaC, in SW_DAWG(TP)2:00PM
22:38:22 <Zakim> SW_DAWG(TP)2:00PM has ended
22:38:24 <Zakim> Attendees were OlympiaC, PatH
22:58:33 <timbl> WHERE      joe   age   [   >   5  ]
22:58:49 <timbl> WHERE    {  joe   age   [   >   5  ]  }
23:00:57 <DanC_> agenda?
23:03:16 <DanC_> ACTION EricP: propose results of N3 syntax discussion to DAWG
23:03:21 <DanC_> (based on mail from danc)
23:04:05 <DanC_> RECESS 'till 8:30am, with ericp in the scribe
23:13:55 <DanC_> RRSAgent, draft minutes
23:13:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2005/02/28-dawg-minutes DanC_
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