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20:32:39 <patH> http://smi-web.stanford.edu/people/noy/nAryRelations/n-aryRelations-2nd-WD.html#RDFReification
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21:13:06 <dlm> http://www.ksl.stanford.edu/people/dlm/papers/dlhb-appendix.pdf
21:13:47 <patH> heres a simple basic glossary: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-mt/#gloss
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22:10:23 <ChrisW> zakim, who was here?
22:10:23 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, ChrisW.
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22:12:02 <ChrisW> meeting: OEP task force
22:12:05 <ChrisW> chair: ChrisW
22:12:36 <ChrisW> Topic: Sending "classes and values" and "value partitions" to "W3C Note" status
22:13:00 <ChrisW> Pat: Figure 1 looks terrible compared to other figs.
22:13:06 <ChrisW> Alan: Will try to fix
22:14:05 <ChrisW> general agreement that drafts need spell check, and validation (http://validator.w3.org/)
22:14:41 <ChrisW> notes should have pointer to place to check for "current version"
22:14:46 <ChrisW> in case there are future changes
22:15:05 <ChrisW> long discussion of possible glossary for terms used in OEP notes
22:15:15 <ChrisW> relation vs. property vs. tuple a real mess
22:16:02 <ChrisW> action: PatH to suggest a new term for "logically equivalent" in class as values note
22:16:35 <ChrisW> alan: classes as values lies in this very hot area of the difference between OWL DL and OWL Full
22:16:57 <ChrisW> ... this may become relevant eventually.  Need to acknolwedge it somehow.
22:17:20 <ChrisW> Topic:  n-ary note
22:17:53 <ChrisW> still a lot of terminology problems.  Strong interest in generating a glossary of terms.
22:18:09 <ChrisW> But not enough resources
22:19:02 <ChrisW> ChrisW: view this as an evolving effort - no one has time to put together such a glossary, but people have time to write *one term*...and then another
22:19:26 <ChrisW> action: ChrisW to propose a framework, web page where we can begin to contribute
22:19:53 <ChrisW> discussion of whether this should hold up note status for current WDs.
22:20:28 <ChrisW> general sense they should go to note
22:20:42 <ChrisW> topic: simple part-whole note
22:20:55 <ChrisW> No one has read yet.  Need to get reviews before f2f.
22:21:16 <ChrisW> topic: semantic integration note
22:21:23 <ChrisW> MikeU: No progress
22:21:36 <ChrisW> Topic: QCR note
22:22:00 <ChrisW> Alan: Guus intended this to be an OEP note.  I responded (pointer in OEP page)
22:22:22 <ChrisW> ... Guus was supposed to work on next draft based on comments
22:22:35 <ChrisW> action: Chrisw to ask guus about it
22:22:58 <ChrisW> topic: f2f
22:23:28 <ChrisW> Chris and Mike will attend.  Deb, Pat, Alan, willing to attend by telecon if time is suitable.
22:23:34 <ChrisW> Will wait for agenda to be posted.
22:24:14 <ChrisW> topic: recommending vocabularies
22:28:13 <ChrisW> Chris: shoudl we try to recommend vocabularies?
22:28:42 <ChrisW> Pat: maybe just get a purl.org namespace and publish our examples this way
22:28:54 <ChrisW> action: ChrisW to find out about getting a purl.org namespace
22:29:29 <ChrisW> rrsagent, draft minutes
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22:30:19 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items:
22:30:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: PatH to suggest a new term for "logically equivalent" in class as values note [1]
22:30:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/02/03-swbp-irc#T22-16-02
22:30:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ChrisW to propose a framework, web page where we can begin to contribute [2]
22:30:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/02/03-swbp-irc#T22-19-26
22:30:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Chrisw to ask guus about it [3]
22:30:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/02/03-swbp-irc#T22-22-35
22:30:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ChrisW to find out about getting a purl.org namespace [4]
22:30:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/02/03-swbp-irc#T22-28-54