01:05:19 RRSAgent has joined #ua 01:05:23 rrsagent, make log world 01:05:28 zakim, who's here? 01:05:28 On the phone I see ??P0, Matt, Peter_Korn, DPoehlman, Cathy_Laws, ??P4 01:05:29 On IRC I see RRSAgent, kyle, JONGUND, Zakim, MattSEA 01:05:40 zakim, ??P0 is Beijing 01:05:40 +Beijing; got it 01:07:19 korn has joined #ua 01:07:40 http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2005/03/ua-meeting 01:07:54 http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/ 01:07:59 http://www.w3.org/2004/12/allgroupoverview.html 01:09:44 jg: Tech Plenary f2f in March in Boston 01:09:46 jg: We will likely be meeting with HTML WG on Tuesday PM, SVG on Thursday 01:10:15 jg: Part of discussion on plenary day (Wednesday) is going to be on test suites. 01:13:03 pk: I'm planning to attend. Trying to figure out Mon-Thu or Tue-Fri. 01:13:23 kyle: How many people attending? 01:13:52 jg: Could be 10 or 12 people. 01:14:06 jg: Overall 300-400 who attend. 01:15:21 jessie: Detailed agenda? 01:15:38 jg: Not yet. Working on that over the next few weeks. People who want to discuss issues, send me or Matt and email. 01:16:53 pk: Will need to parcel out actions on tests, etc. 01:17:33 action: mm add f2f agenda item for test suite actions 01:17:48 jg: Update on keyboard specs? 01:18:00 pk: No functional changes that I'm aware of. 01:18:11 kyle: Still discussing some details. 01:18:21 kyle: Haven't published it. 01:18:25 pk: Functional changes? 01:18:36 kyle: Most significant changes will be moving in and out of form controls. 01:18:49 kyle: hasn't been decided. 01:20:05 jg: Thought about caret and non-caret modes? 01:22:50 cl: What's the latest version? 01:22:56 kyle: One from December. 01:23:08 jg: Date on Moz access site is September. Is that old? 01:23:15 http://www.mozilla.org/access/unix/keyboardproposal.html 01:24:19 no, the correct URL is http://www.mozilla.org/access/keyboard/proposal 01:25:56 http://cita.disability.uiuc.edu/mozilla/ts-index.html 01:26:58 jessie: I have found your keyboard requirements very useful. I have a question: not clear about some of the test cases. 01:27:23 jg: In Web apps, you may have other elements that can respond to keyboard events. onfocus and onblur events. Even with onclick, keyboard may respond. 01:28:46 jg: the word "enabled" comes from UAAG. That's what we call elements that can respond to user input. 01:31:13 jg: When moving around in caret mode, not necessarily in a different mode. 01:33:39 jg: last time we talked, [ and ] were control-focus-left and -right? 01:34:39 kyle: Aaron suggested us to move caret over text box, and have a key to actuate text box. 01:34:42 cl: Edit mode. 01:34:48 jg: Like forms mode in JAWS. 01:34:50 cl: Right. 01:36:07 http://cita.disability.uiuc.edu/mozilla/ts-bindings.html 01:37:11 jessie: Now support brackets to move out of form control. 01:37:18 s/bracket/alt-bracket/ 01:37:57 jg: What do you call when you give keyboard focus to the form control? 01:38:03 pk: That part doesn't change. 01:38:08 jg: control loses focus? 01:38:54 kyle: Will probably add edit mode in next version. 01:41:15 korn has joined #ua 01:41:23 korn has left #ua 01:41:25 korn has joined #ua 01:45:56 korn has left #ua 01:46:06 korn has joined #ua 01:46:07 jg: I'll update the applet and object parts of the tests. 01:48:53 jg: Mozilla extension: will have a new version available in the next week or two. 01:49:07 jg: Jessie and Kyle, have you been using this? 01:49:18 kyle: I downloaded the first version a few months ago. 01:50:18 jg: Works on Unix and Mac, too. Seems to work better on Mac, actually. 01:52:16 jg: Working on getting enumeration of what events apply to each control, and firing that from the extension. 01:53:41 jg: Our charter has been approved. 01:55:05 mm: May need to get a statement from people to adhere to the current patent policy. Otherwise, no action needed. 01:56:53 jg: Next meeting? 01:58:25 -DPoehlman 02:01:48 jg: 7/8 February 02:01:57 jg: Next meeting for UAWG: Thursday 02:02:08 korn has left #ua 02:02:17 -Matt 02:02:19 -Cathy_Laws 02:02:20 -??P4 02:02:25 rrsagent, bye 02:02:25 I see 1 open action item: 02:02:25 ACTION: mm add f2f agenda item for test suite actions [1] 02:02:25 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/01/12-ua-irc#T01-17-33