IRC log of ua on 2005-01-12

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rrsagent, make log world

01:05:28 [MattSEA]

zakim, who's here?

01:05:28 [Zakim]

On the phone I see ??P0, Matt, Peter_Korn, DPoehlman, Cathy_Laws, ??P4

01:05:29 [Zakim]

On IRC I see RRSAgent, kyle, JONGUND, Zakim, MattSEA

01:05:40 [MattSEA]

zakim, ??P0 is Beijing

01:05:40 [Zakim]

+Beijing; got it

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01:07:40 [JONGUND]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2005/03/ua-meeting

01:07:54 [JONGUND]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/

01:07:59 [MattSEA]

http://www.w3.org/2004/12/allgroupoverview.html

01:09:44 [MattSEA]

jg: Tech Plenary f2f in March in Boston

01:09:46 [MattSEA]

jg: We will likely be meeting with HTML WG on Tuesday PM, SVG on Thursday

01:10:15 [MattSEA]

jg: Part of discussion on plenary day (Wednesday) is going to be on test suites.

01:13:03 [MattSEA]

pk: I'm planning to attend. Trying to figure out Mon-Thu or Tue-Fri.

01:13:23 [MattSEA]

kyle: How many people attending?

01:13:52 [MattSEA]

jg: Could be 10 or 12 people.

01:14:06 [MattSEA]

jg: Overall 300-400 who attend.

01:15:21 [MattSEA]

jessie: Detailed agenda?

01:15:38 [MattSEA]

jg: Not yet. Working on that over the next few weeks. People who want to discuss issues, send me or Matt and email.

01:16:53 [MattSEA]

pk: Will need to parcel out actions on tests, etc.

01:17:33 [MattSEA]

action: mm add f2f agenda item for test suite actions

01:17:48 [MattSEA]

jg: Update on keyboard specs?

01:18:00 [MattSEA]

pk: No functional changes that I'm aware of.

01:18:11 [MattSEA]

kyle: Still discussing some details.

01:18:21 [MattSEA]

kyle: Haven't published it.

01:18:25 [MattSEA]

pk: Functional changes?

01:18:36 [MattSEA]

kyle: Most significant changes will be moving in and out of form controls.

01:18:49 [MattSEA]

kyle: hasn't been decided.

01:20:05 [MattSEA]

jg: Thought about caret and non-caret modes?

01:22:50 [MattSEA]

cl: What's the latest version?

01:22:56 [MattSEA]

kyle: One from December.

01:23:08 [MattSEA]

jg: Date on Moz access site is September. Is that old?

01:23:15 [JONGUND]

http://www.mozilla.org/access/unix/keyboardproposal.html

01:24:19 [kyle]

no, the correct URL is http://www.mozilla.org/access/keyboard/proposal

01:25:56 [JONGUND]

http://cita.disability.uiuc.edu/mozilla/ts-index.html

01:26:58 [MattSEA]

jessie: I have found your keyboard requirements very useful. I have a question: not clear about some of the test cases.

01:27:23 [MattSEA]

jg: In Web apps, you may have other elements that can respond to keyboard events. onfocus and onblur events. Even with onclick, keyboard may respond.

01:28:46 [MattSEA]

jg: the word "enabled" comes from UAAG. That's what we call elements that can respond to user input.

01:31:13 [MattSEA]

jg: When moving around in caret mode, not necessarily in a different mode.

01:33:39 [MattSEA]

jg: last time we talked, [ and ] were control-focus-left and -right?

01:34:39 [MattSEA]

kyle: Aaron suggested us to move caret over text box, and have a key to actuate text box.

01:34:42 [MattSEA]

cl: Edit mode.

01:34:48 [MattSEA]

jg: Like forms mode in JAWS.

01:34:50 [MattSEA]

cl: Right.

01:36:07 [JONGUND]

http://cita.disability.uiuc.edu/mozilla/ts-bindings.html

01:37:11 [MattSEA]

jessie: Now support brackets to move out of form control.

01:37:18 [MattSEA]

s/bracket/alt-bracket/

01:37:57 [MattSEA]

jg: What do you call when you give keyboard focus to the form control?

01:38:03 [MattSEA]

pk: That part doesn't change.

01:38:08 [MattSEA]

jg: control loses focus?

01:38:54 [MattSEA]

kyle: Will probably add edit mode in next version.

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01:46:07 [MattSEA]

jg: I'll update the applet and object parts of the tests.

01:48:53 [MattSEA]

jg: Mozilla extension: will have a new version available in the next week or two.

01:49:07 [MattSEA]

jg: Jessie and Kyle, have you been using this?

01:49:18 [MattSEA]

kyle: I downloaded the first version a few months ago.

01:50:18 [MattSEA]

jg: Works on Unix and Mac, too. Seems to work better on Mac, actually.

01:52:16 [MattSEA]

jg: Working on getting enumeration of what events apply to each control, and firing that from the extension.

01:53:41 [MattSEA]

jg: Our charter has been approved.

01:55:05 [MattSEA]

mm: May need to get a statement from people to adhere to the current patent policy. Otherwise, no action needed.

01:56:53 [MattSEA]

jg: Next meeting?

01:58:25 [Zakim]

-DPoehlman

02:01:48 [MattSEA]

jg: 7/8 February

02:01:57 [MattSEA]

jg: Next meeting for UAWG: Thursday

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-Matt

02:02:19 [Zakim]

-Cathy_Laws

02:02:20 [Zakim]

-??P4

02:02:25 [MattSEA]

rrsagent, bye

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I see 1 open action item:

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ACTION: mm add f2f agenda item for test suite actions [1]

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