IRC log of swbp on 2004-12-16

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Meeting: SemWeb Best Practices and Deployment WG

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Dec/0089.html

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Previous: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Dec/0087.html

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SW_BPD()2:00PM has now started

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+Evan_Wallace

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+Ralph

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+Tom_Baker

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+Tom_Baker.a (was Tom_Baker)

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+??P7

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+[IBM]

19:02:43 [Ralph]

zakim, ??p7 is Jeff_Pan

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+Jeff_Pan; got it

19:02:45 [ChrisW]

zakim, [ibm] is temporarily ChrisW

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+ChrisW; got it

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+Guus_Schreiber

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+??P12

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Regrets: TomA, Phil

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zakim, ??p12 is Alistair

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+Alistair; got it

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+Darren_Govoni

19:04:46 [guus]

zakim, who is her?

19:04:46 [Zakim]

I don't understand your question, guus.

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+??P14

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zakim, ??p14 is Natasha

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+Natasha; got it

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+Alistair_Miles (was Alistair)

19:06:26 [Ralph]

Regrets+ Brian, Libby, DanBri, Lars Marius, Fabien, Marco

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i can scribe

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+??P16

19:08:43 [guus]

zakim, who is here?

19:08:43 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Evan_Wallace, Ralph, Tom_Baker, Jeff_Pan, ChrisW, Guus_Schreiber, Alistair_Miles, Darren_Govoni, Natasha, ??P16

19:08:45 [Zakim]

On IRC I see ekw, aliman, Natasha, JeffP, dgovoni, tbaker, ChrisW, Zakim, RRSAgent, guus, Ralph

19:08:46 [Ralph]

zakim, ??p16 is Jeremey

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+Jeremey; got it

19:09:48 [tbaker]

Last call before changing to new telecon times

19:09:49 [Ralph]

zakim, jeremey is really Jeremy

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+Jeremy; got it

19:09:57 [aliman]

minutes of 02 dec http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Dec/0087.html

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Propose to accept minutes

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Ralph: two updates. I recorded my regrets in log.

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Also, telecon times shouuld include date.

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Dan Govoni: was in Boston forgot to send regrets.

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Jeremy: not enough review time for minutes, propose to leave for next telecon

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Guus: next telecon: 1800 UTC schedule starting Jan 13

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No telecon Dec 30

19:12:16 [tbaker]

Then keep to two-wk sched.

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Carried

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Agenda amendments?

19:12:43 [Ralph]

zakim, take up agendum 1

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agendum 1. "Administrivia" taken up [from Ralph]

19:13:07 [Ralph]

zakim, close this agendum

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agendum 1 closed

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I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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2. Action Item Review [from Ralph]

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+??P17

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zakim, next agendum

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agendum 2. "Action Item Review" taken up [from Ralph]

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Action item review (item 2)

19:13:20 [Ralph]

zakim, ??p17 is Mike_Uschold

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+Mike_Uschold; got it

19:13:58 [Ralph]

ACTION: fabio & new RDFTM TF members to post a short biog to SWBP list

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-- continued

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ACTION: ralph to set up a SETF mailing list, public archive and accessible

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-- continued

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s/continued/

19:14:38 [tbaker]

action 1 - carry

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Ralph: I asked Phil if the SE TF really wants a separate mailing list, I proposed they use the [SE] tag

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ralph action: dropped, task force can raise again if needed

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ACTION: phil to look into setting up a wiki for SETF

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-- completed

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ACTION: Phil to refine the TF terms of reference and publish as a TF

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-- completed

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phil action completed

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ACTION: Phil to contact all SETF interested parties not on the telecon

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phil SETF action completed

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ACTION: David to help Alistair to pbulish SKOS Core first WD

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david to help alistair - carry forward

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ACTION: guus send jeremy pointer about numeric ranges and XMLS

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DONE; http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Dec/0020.html

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ACTION: Brian and DanBri need to talk about what need to do for Wordnet document to be good enough

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brian and danbri action carried

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ACTION: Jeremy Clarify which parts of UML docs HP is most interested in reviewing

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jeremy clarify carried forward

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ACTION: ralph contact steve pemberton to clarify html wg's position on inclusion of rdf/a in their last call wd.

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s/steve/steven/

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+Mike_Uschold.a (was Mike_Uschold)

19:18:31 [tbaker]

ralph contact: ralph talked with stephen pemberton

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as of dec 2, html wg was holding last working draft for publication

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until including rdf-a in last draft

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holding til complete that work

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not seen official communication, but so told

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ACTION: Ralph take up TAG-SWBP agenda CG tomorrow

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ralph action completed

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ralph tag-swbp action

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we talked about it at cg

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action is probably completed

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not sure if tag can meet with us

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httpRange-14

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ralph hopes tag will want to consult with bp on http range

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ralph: consider this completed

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ralph: whether message from tag was an offer to meet with us as body

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or meet with other wgs individually

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apparently more the latter

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not impossible to meet as group, but rep more likely

19:22:58 [tbaker]

steve pepper had asked whether we could have 4 days of meeting time at tech plenary

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meeting planners say there is not sufficient meeting-room space

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only for thu-fri of the tech plenary week

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but we will have one of the biggest rooms

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sw ig will meet mon-tue

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danbri wants to split swig tue-thu

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swig should not conflict with other meetings

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-Jeremy

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wed is "real plenary day"

19:24:39 [Ralph]

DanBri's Tue-Thu split for swig was so that it not completely overlap DAWG or SWBPD

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Qst: what is SWIG?

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used to be RDF interest group

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generally a place for users and developers (mostly) of RDF and OWL and rule languages

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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/interest/

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spinoff activities, task forces

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^Semantic Web Activity

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FOAF work is related to it

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+ +47.23.23.aaaa

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s/Activity/Interest Group

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s/Activity/Interest Group/

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zakim, aaaa is Steve_Pepper

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+Steve_Pepper; got it

19:27:12 [tbaker]

3.1 OEP - skip....

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3.2 PORT - alistair

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zakim, move to next agendum

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agendum 3. "TF Updates" taken up [from Ralph]

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proposes that tomorrow or ASAP we turn the SKOS core guide and specs

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into first working drafts

19:27:39 [aliman]

http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/guide/2004-11-25.html

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guus: needs to be on agenda

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non-TF members need to review it

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alistair: they are almost in position to be 1st working drafts

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guus: start soliciting reviewers

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wie will take decision on jan 13

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solicit reviewers from within working group

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from that we get a proposal for publication

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and that is then on agenda of a WG telecon (or F2F)

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+??P18

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then we take decision, taking reviews into account

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http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/spec/

19:29:29 [Ralph]

zakim, ??p18 is Jeremy

19:29:29 [Zakim]

+Jeremy; got it

19:29:29 [tbaker]

we have four weeks to organize review

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ralph: reviewers yet?

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alistair: not yet

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ralph: ideally outside reviewers

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outside the TF, that is

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guus: someone who has done thesauri conversion

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(we presume the TF has consensus before proposing to the WG)

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proposes mark [fanossom] as reviewer

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Mark on behalf of Guus

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propose Mark van Assem as reviewer for PORT WD

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alistair: working draft: skos core spec and skos core guide

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spec is a namespace doc, overview of vocabulary

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spec aims to provide summary of each term - definition, comments, domains/ranges

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spec generated from underlying definition of skos core vocabulary

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a human-readable version of skos core

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guide is human-readable intro - how to use it

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features of vocabulary, with examples

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last telecon: make accessible to non-RDF people

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but that was nearly impossible to write - would have been extremely long

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rather: restrict scope to people who basically understand RDF

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then if we want to present porting issues, do in separate doc that

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explains basic concepts

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from there, we can look at developing add'nl method notes

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guus: quick start guide in working draft?

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alistair: yes, fine

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"quick guide to publishing thes on SW"

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wouyld be happy for review of quick guide too

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1) namespace; 2) core guide; 3) guide to publish controlled vocabs (not yet written)

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in this review: a, b, and c

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(refer to email)

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guus: problem of lost messages?

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ralph: all messages sent to list are now in archive.

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there was a delay, but AFAIK nothing lost

19:36:23 [aliman]

PORT TF docs summary in message: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Dec/0024.html

19:36:34 [tbaker]

guus: need one more reviewer

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preferably outside task force

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tom baker volunteers

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suggested timeline: send email to list with suggested TL (guus)

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should be done in 1-2 weeks?

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alistair: reviewed by next telecon?

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+Deb_McGuinness

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guus: if jan 13, then by monday of that week reviews should be done

19:38:16 [Ralph]

[hmm. Alistair thinks his message of 24 Nov was lost from archive; I will research that]

19:38:21 [tbaker]

guus: provide the docs after this telecon

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19:38:31 [DeborahM]

i am on on phone and irc now - Deborah McGuinness

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action: alistair send timeline to list

19:39:47 [Ralph]

Topic: OEP TF Update

19:40:07 [Ralph]

Mike: OEP had a telecon last Thursday

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... updated TF Web page

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... Alan Rector has taken over editorship of simple PartOf note

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... expect some new drafts before year-end for circulation w/in TF

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... no change on units & measures

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... waiting for ISI AC Rep to nominate Jerry Hobbs & student for WG participation

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... discussed whether UML work should be done in SE TF or OEP TF; we agreed it didn't matter where it was done

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... happy to keep UML work in OEP as it is a modelling language, but will move if SE really wants it

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ACTION: Ralph contact Elisa Kendall re: editorship & W3C Membership

19:44:07 [tbaker]

guus: message from people who have developed units and measures ontology

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group from technology for agriculture, web site

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url is on the list

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ralph: might have been delayed for permission to post to public list - handshake system

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makes people aware their email address will be public

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so this message should appear later

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ralph: "archive approval queue"

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it has now been forwarded to list

19:47:20 [Ralph]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Dec/0093.html

19:47:33 [Ralph]

"UnitDim: an ontology of physical units and quantities

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From Rijgersberg, Hajo <Hajo.Rijgersberg@wur.nl>

19:48:33 [tbaker]

Deb: draft for time hasn't been circulated because of author membership questions

19:48:42 [ChrisW]

draft is here: http://www.cs.rochester.edu/~ferguson/daml/

19:49:33 [tbaker]

Deb: discussion of N-ary doc: interest in updates, postings from Peter to our list

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Skipping Wordnet

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3.4 Datatypes

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Jeremy: we have version of doc with only one add-at

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not seen any review comments

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question: what next?

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19:51:00 [aliman]

s/add-at/@@TODO

19:51:38 [tbaker]

possible reviewers: assign WG reviewers and invite other groups to make informal comments

19:52:14 [tbaker]

jeremy: the other WGs I have in mind: DAWG, XSLT, Xquery, XML schema, maybe Webont and RDFcore

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because this note is a comment on their recommendations

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guus: need at least one reviewer from this group

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guus: volunteers?

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evan volunteers

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evan will do before next telecon

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jeremy: other groups would need time to review

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so implies we would publish after tech plenary

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we ask evan to do after next telecon?

19:55:06 [tbaker]

s/after/before/

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ACTION: evan reviews...

19:56:45 [Ralph]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Dec/0088.html

19:56:53 [Ralph]

"next steps on datatypes"

19:57:40 [Ralph]

Topic: VM TF Update

19:57:52 [Ralph]

TomB: everyone is supposed to be putting their input into the wiki or sending to TomB

19:58:06 [Ralph]

... I have been in touch with everyone who has actions to input material

19:58:16 [Ralph]

... I have some outside material on PRISM to work in

19:58:44 [Ralph]

... had problems with the wiki being vandalized; some parts of the draft disappeared, but this might have been accidental rather than vandal

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... several important contributions have not yet arrived

19:59:36 [Ralph]

... the original timeline is therefore slipping

19:59:47 [Ralph]

... hope the major pieces will be in place by the end of the year

20:00:03 [Ralph]

... by Jan 5 hope to be where I was hoping to have been on Dec 6

20:00:22 [Ralph]

... next plan is to move draft from the wiki and massage into a more readable draft for discussion

20:01:02 [Ralph]

... have gotten some materials and some convincing promises for other material

20:01:39 [Ralph]

Guus: consider seeking other volunteers for the material you want

20:02:11 [Ralph]

TomB: the people who have the actions now are talking about particular areas of their expertise

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... Jim Hendler has volunteered to contribute even though he has removed himself from the WG

20:02:46 [Ralph]

... I am confident that the material is coming, just late

20:03:07 [Ralph]

... reality is that the deadlines have slipped

20:03:26 [Ralph]

... had hoped to have all this before the holidays so the rough draft would have been available

20:03:48 [Ralph]

... new realistic goal is to have draft before 13 Jan telecon

20:04:00 [tbaker]

3.6 rdf-inhtml

20:04:20 [tbaker]

guus: syntax will be included in final draft (probably)

20:04:55 [tbaker]

steve pemberton reported that last draft on mark's plate

20:05:06 [tbaker]

guus: dan says no news from html wg

20:05:16 [Ralph]

s/dan/BenA/

20:05:22 [tbaker]

3.7 adtf - ongoing effort...

20:05:28 [tbaker]

3.8 topic map task force

20:05:55 [tbaker]

steve: good progress.

20:06:02 [tbaker]

survey of RDF/TM interop

20:06:14 [tbaker]

second deliverable: guidelines

20:06:22 [tbaker]

preparing test cases for using in preparing those guidelines

20:06:32 [tbaker]

at moment, fairly complete editors' drafts

20:06:41 [tbaker]

hope to announce to wg as whole in early january

20:06:55 [tbaker]

feedback welcome, especially on direction taking

20:07:06 [tbaker]

we are creating docs on wiki

20:07:11 [pepper]

http://tesi.fabio.web.cs.unibo.it/cgi-bin/twiki/bin/view/RDFTM/DraftSurvey

20:07:11 [pepper]

http://tesi.fabio.web.cs.unibo.it/cgi-bin/twiki/bin/view/RDFTM/TestCases

20:07:35 [tbaker]

steve will send email as well

20:07:48 [tbaker]

goal: something "complete enough" in early January

20:08:05 [tbaker]

ACTION: ralph add links to TF description

20:08:18 [Ralph]

specifically, RDFTM Wiki links

20:08:43 [tbaker]

steve: interested in press release - a WG issue, or elsewhere?

20:09:03 [tbaker]

guus: something to consider when publishing working draft

20:09:09 [tbaker]

steve: hopefully mid-January

20:09:33 [tbaker]

guus: at publication of working draft, " " of final note

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guus: for either Jan 13 or Jan 27 telecon

20:10:07 [tbaker]

3.9 Tutorial -

20:10:13 [tbaker]

3.10 Software Engineering

20:10:21 [tbaker]

guus: main issue is participants

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status of potential participants

20:11:22 [tbaker]

ralph will send link to invited expert policy

20:13:56 [pepper]

q+

20:14:33 [tbaker]

jeff: web page as further action in TF?

20:14:46 [tbaker]

considering setting up new web page on applications and topics

20:15:04 [tbaker]

and uses of ontologies in software engineering

20:15:16 [tbaker]

ralph: sounds like what demos TF doing

20:16:26 [tbaker]

guus: evan, deadline? Jan 10. So next telecon can discuss.

20:16:51 [tbaker]

Jeff: meeting on Jan 31 about

20:17:04 [tbaker]

ODM draft document deadline: Jan 10

20:17:12 [tbaker]

Meeting to discuss comments is Jan 31

20:18:07 [Ralph]

Jeff, http://www.w3.org/2004/08/invexp.html has some information about W3C invited expert process

20:19:27 [tbaker]

closing the call...

20:19:59 [tbaker]

steve: non-W3C non-invited-experts from orgs with which W3C has official liaison

20:20:14 [mikeU]

Does anyone know what days our F2F will be held in Boston?

20:20:54 [tbaker]

ralph, for example, working group can have liaison with ISO

20:21:44 [tbaker]

working-group-to-technical-committee basis

20:24:38 [tbaker]

adjourned... pleasant holidays...

20:24:40 [aliman]

bye bye all!

20:24:49 [Zakim]

-Darren_Govoni

20:24:49 [JeffP]

bye :-)

20:24:50 [Zakim]

-Evan_Wallace

20:24:51 [Zakim]

-Steve_Pepper

20:24:51 [Zakim]

-ChrisW

20:24:52 [Zakim]

-Natasha

20:24:52 [Zakim]

-Guus_Schreiber

20:24:53 [Zakim]

-Mike_Uschold.a

20:24:54 [Zakim]

-Jeff_Pan

20:24:56 [Zakim]

-Jeremy

20:25:03 [Ralph]

rrsagent, pointer?

20:25:03 [RRSAgent]

See http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T20-25-03

20:25:05 [Zakim]

-Alistair_Miles

20:25:17 [Ralph]

rrsagent, make log world

20:25:39 [Zakim]

-Deb_McGuinness

20:29:01 [Zakim]

-Ralph

20:30:35 [Zakim]

-Tom_Baker

20:30:36 [Zakim]

SW_BPD()2:00PM has ended

20:30:37 [Zakim]

Attendees were Evan_Wallace, Ralph, Tom_Baker, Jeff_Pan, ChrisW, Guus_Schreiber, Darren_Govoni, Natasha, Alistair_Miles, Jeremy, Mike_Uschold, +47.23.23.aaaa, Steve_Pepper,

20:30:39 [Zakim]

... Deb_McGuinness

20:30:48 [Ralph]

rrsagent, bye

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

I see 15 open action items:

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: fabio & new RDFTM TF members to post a short biog to SWBP list [1]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-13-58

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ralph to set up a SETF mailing list, public archive and accessible [2]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-14-03

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: phil to look into setting up a wiki for SETF [3]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-15-30

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Phil to refine the TF terms of reference and publish as a TF [4]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-16-00

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Phil to contact all SETF interested parties not on the telecon [5]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-16-17

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: David to help Alistair to pbulish SKOS Core first WD [6]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-16-30

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: guus send jeremy pointer about numeric ranges and XMLS [7]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-17-14

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Brian and DanBri need to talk about what need to do for Wordnet document to be good enough [8]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-17-28

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Jeremy Clarify which parts of UML docs HP is most interested in reviewing [9]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-17-49

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ralph contact steve pemberton to clarify html wg's position on inclusion of rdf/a in their last call wd. [10]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-18-02

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ralph take up TAG-SWBP agenda CG tomorrow [11]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-19-33

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: alistair send timeline to list [12]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-39-18

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ralph contact Elisa Kendall re: editorship & W3C Membership [13]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-43-36

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: evan reviews... [14]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T19-55-18

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ralph add links to TF description [15]

20:30:48 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/12/16-swbp-irc#T20-08-05