WS CG call

<hugo> Scribe: Hugco

<hugo> Scribe: Hugo

<SRT> Hi eveyone

SRT, I muted you as I couldn't hear David

<SRT> ok. Should be quiet now. I'm upstairs

Coordination with external organisations

Steve: we wanted to discuss how to coordinate with other organizations
... it came up as we discussed last week an MOU to coordinate around managament
... it was felt an MOU was too heavy, but the topic is important
... so we thought about inviting people from other organizations from time to time

David: we did this in the past, with Kelvin Lawrence as chair of the OASIS WS security TC
... it was useful, and the CG felt it was a good thing
... I would recommend inviting people as needed
... maybe we should have a document explaining that we are there to talk to

Steve: maybe we should work on a list of people who would be interesting to talk to

Hugo: as an example of a starting point, UN/CEFACT contacted us to start talking again as we had lost touch

<scribe> ACTION: Steve to send an email requesting list of contacts that would be interesting to talk to in the CG

Approve minutes

No minutes yet

<scribe> ACTION: Hugo to prepare minutes

Review action items

<scribe> ACTION: CG to ping Addison about progress and rechartering [IN PROGRESS]

<scribe> ACTION: Hugo to add some additional dates to calendar [PENDING]

<scribe> ACTION: [DONE] Steve to put coordination with other orgs and inviting chairs on next call's agenda

WS WG reports and issues

-- Choreography:

Steve: pretty amazing progress has been moved those past few months
... approaching last call stage
... we're putting together the draft

-- Description:

Hugo: a taskforce around MEPs has been started

Steve: we had a comment about F&P and compositors

Hugo: a proposal has been made, but I cannot comment on whether it'll be accepted at this point

-- XMLP:

David: we're in PR
... we have received a couple of comments at this point, but nothing substantive
... we still have an issue with I18N (issue 503)
... we feel that we dealt with their issue, and they are not satisfied
... Yves has been talking with Martin Duerst
... my own view is that if they want to pursue this, they should do a PR comment via one of their members
... advice for people going to PR: you need to make sure people are happy with your answer to the comment
... we have finished our implementation activities
... we have traces and everything works fine
... we haven't had meetings for the last couple of weeks as we don't have anything to discuss
... after Rec, we'll do some errata work, but there was no suggestion to work on new technology
... there was a desire to keep the Group together, as we have the expertise and people know how to work together

-- Addressing:

Mark: lots of things happening
... we are going to put people in bad standing, which was to be expected
... we decided to describe our spec with schema, and restricted ourselves to XML 1.0
... we are trying to meet with the TAG at the plenary

Steve: we may have a requirement on addressing
... it was discussed at the last F2F
... we're not quite sure yet, but we are investigating

-- XML CG:

See IRC log.

<MSM> XML CG minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2004Nov/0037.html

-- SWS IG:

Noone around

Next call

7 December 2004

<SRT> thnx hugo