IRC log of wstf on 2004-11-16
Timestamps are in UTC.
- 00:00:24 [shawn]
- ACTION: image: simplify. erase horizontal lines and busyness under arcs.
- 00:00:28 [AndrewA]
- ACTION: Try removing or fading the dark horizontal material under the bridge arcs
- 00:00:44 [shawn]
- michael: http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/sketchpad/viz-11h-bkm1.png
- 00:00:54 [shawn]
- & http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/sketchpad/viz-11h-slh1.png
- 00:01:15 [mlenz]
- mlenz has joined #wstf
- 00:01:36 [mlenz]
- url?
- 00:01:50 [Justin]
- the e-mail blossom sent with her design
- 00:01:55 [mlenz]
- roger
- 00:02:57 [mlenz]
- when was that?
- 00:03:25 [mlenz]
- 11/12, got it
- 00:03:33 [shawn]
- ACTION: shawn, get permission to use photo
- 00:05:32 [AndrewA]
- ML: image needs to be lighter and 'pushed back'
- 00:06:05 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, image desaturate and soften a bit
- 00:07:24 [Zakim]
- +Carol
- 00:10:37 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, fix contrast with tag line and line up with body text margin
- 00:12:11 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, image: left, smoother transition from bridge to darkish background
- 00:14:26 [AndrewA]
- Bridge URL: http://www.scd.ucar.edu/dig/cuglog/99/text/album/mpls/bridgesun.html
- 00:18:07 [AndrewA]
- BM: do we realy need the (R) mark in the logo?
- 00:18:19 [AndrewA]
- BM: Wells Fargo doesn't
- 00:18:32 [AndrewA]
- ML: Cisco does in Print, not on the Web
- 00:23:51 [AndrewA]
- BM: expect first two levels of heading to be coloured - currently we have H! black and H2 coloured
- 00:24:21 [AndrewA]
- BM should have been CC
- 00:26:44 [AndrewA]
- ACTION: Heading 1 - try a draft with H1 colour matching H2 colour
- 00:27:50 [AndrewA]
- BM: what do we tyhiunk about the H1 underline? Solid/colour/strong/pale?
- 00:30:29 [AndrewA]
- ACTION: try a lighter grey for the H1 underline
- 00:30:32 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom: H1 & H2 underline colour, maybe lighter version of one of the other colours on the site
- 00:35:54 [AndrewA]
- State for screen resolutions (not the same as browser resolutions) - http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004/October/res.php
- 00:36:51 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, quote: remove most of right margin so more words per line. try lining up left margin with the box
- 00:38:48 [shawn]
- ACTION: mlenz send sample treatment for top of left nav
- 00:39:09 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, fix treatment of W3C Home, and WAI Home
- 00:39:14 [shawn]
- in left nav
- 00:41:10 [Zakim]
- -Michael_Lenz
- 00:41:33 [AndrewA]
- ACTION: navigation squares should have the same internal colour (white)
- 00:41:34 [Zakim]
- +Michael
- 00:44:33 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, left nav: make nodes transparent background
- 00:47:26 [AndrewA]
- ACTION: need obvious indicator for 'current page' - try a background that links nav item to page content
- 00:47:39 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, strong visual indication of current page. try making the white go over the box lines and background color
- 00:48:42 [AndrewA]
- Sample Wells Fargo page - http://www.wellsfargo.com/wfonline/onlinestmts.jhtml;jsessionid=0I2R5ST1ZPGNOCQ10C3E4GQKBRKTMUM0
- 00:51:49 [AndrewA]
- ACTION: LHS menu - image is part of link, but with negative left margin to ensure menu items wrap under the text, not under the image
- 00:54:53 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, left nav icons, use the rust color for all including the pluses, etc
- 00:55:13 [AndrewA]
- ACTION: LHS navigation - or try both grey
- 00:57:38 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, try something to make fewer elements of the left nav. e.g., from removing the key lines or making one box with seprator
- 01:03:53 [shawn]
- ACTION: shawn, add to later: possibly make middle column wrap under thried or not
- 01:05:29 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, provide one option with the middle column wrapping under the right column
- 01:07:48 [Zakim]
- -Carol
- 01:07:49 [Zakim]
- -Justin
- 01:07:51 [AndrewA]
- ACTION: SLH - next review to focus on text/font size
- 01:08:04 [Zakim]
- -Andrew_Arch
- 01:08:23 [shawn]
- zakim, who is here?
- 01:08:23 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Shawn, Blossom, Charmane, Michael
- 01:08:24 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see mlenz, Justin, AndrewA, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn
- 01:17:18 [shawn]
- NOTE: that right block is different on the home page vs. the sub pages
- 01:17:49 [shawn]
- on the home page, its a separate thing
- 01:18:20 [shawn]
- on the subpages it;'s more connected to the body
- 01:19:42 [shawn]
- ACTION: blossom, on home page, make third column anchored to the banner (like left column)
- 01:19:59 [shawn]
- for subpages, right column is not a frame column, but more a float
- 01:23:35 [Zakim]
- -Charmane
- 01:26:47 [Zakim]
- -Michael
- 01:34:27 [Zakim]
- -Blossom
- 01:34:33 [Zakim]
- -Shawn
- 01:34:34 [Zakim]
- WAI_EOWG(wstf)6:00PM has ended
- 01:34:35 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Andrew_Arch, Justin, Shawn, Charmane, Blossom, Michael_Lenz, Carol, Michael
- 01:34:40 [shawn]
- bye, rrsagent
- 01:34:45 [shawn]
- rrsagent, byt
- 01:34:45 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'byt', shawn. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 01:34:50 [shawn]
- rrsagent, bye
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- I see 30 open action items:
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: AA to send code sample for IE keyboard focus to Blossom [1]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/15-wstf-irc#T23-40-28
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom top bar gray from browser skin [2]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/15-wstf-irc#T23-41-21
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom top bar - try both on right [3]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/15-wstf-irc#T23-41-29
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, top bar - try both on right [4]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/15-wstf-irc#T23-41-38
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: andrew and blossom: use a:focus a:hover and a:active [5]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/15-wstf-irc#T23-42-01
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, try doing an arc treatment to the top of the boxes [6]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/15-wstf-irc#T23-48-43
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: image: simplify. erase horizontal lines and busyness under arcs. [7]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-00-24
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Try removing or fading the dark horizontal material under the bridge arcs [8]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-00-28
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: shawn, get permission to use photo [9]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-03-33
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, image desaturate and soften a bit [10]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-06-05
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, fix contrast with tag line and line up with body text margin [11]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-10-37
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, image: left, smoother transition from bridge to darkish background [12]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-12-11
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Heading 1 - try a draft with H1 colour matching H2 colour [13]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-26-44
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: try a lighter grey for the H1 underline [14]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-30-29
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom: H1 & H2 underline colour, maybe lighter version of one of the other colours on the site [15]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-30-32
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, quote: remove most of right margin so more words per line. try lining up left margin with the box [16]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-36-51
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: mlenz send sample treatment for top of left nav [17]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-38-48
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, fix treatment of W3C Home, and WAI Home [18]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-39-09
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: navigation squares should have the same internal colour (white) [19]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-41-33
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, left nav: make nodes transparent background [20]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-44-33
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: need obvious indicator for 'current page' - try a background that links nav item to page content [21]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-47-26
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, strong visual indication of current page. try making the white go over the box lines and background color [22]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-47-39
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: LHS menu - image is part of link, but with negative left margin to ensure menu items wrap under the text, not under the image [23]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-51-49
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, left nav icons, use the rust color for all including the pluses, etc [24]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-54-53
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: LHS navigation - or try both grey [25]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-55-13
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, try something to make fewer elements of the left nav. e.g., from removing the key lines or making one box with seprator [26]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T00-57-38
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: shawn, add to later: possibly make middle column wrap under thried or not [27]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T01-03-53
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, provide one option with the middle column wrapping under the right column [28]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T01-05-29
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: SLH - next review to focus on text/font size [29]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T01-07-51
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: blossom, on home page, make third column anchored to the banner (like left column) [30]
- 01:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/16-wstf-irc#T01-19-42