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14:26:41 <DanC> DanC has changed the topic to: RDF Data Access 2 Nov http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/
14:27:58 <DanC> Regrets: EricP
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14:28:47 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:28:47 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I don't know what conference this is
14:29:06 <AndyS> zakim, this is DAWG
14:29:06 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; that matches SW_DAWG()9:30AM
14:29:09 <Zakim> +AlbertoR
14:29:12 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:29:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see HowardK, ??P1, ??P2, AlbertoR
14:29:15 <Yoshio> zakim, call Yoshio-home
14:29:15 <Zakim> ok, Yoshio; the call is being made
14:29:16 <Zakim> +Yoshio
14:29:22 <DanC> Regrets+ Farrukh Najmi
14:29:35 <AndyS> zakim, ??P2 is AndyS
14:29:35 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:29:37 <AlbertoR> Regrest from ErcP too
14:29:38 <Zakim> +??P5
14:29:42 <SimonR> That's me: P5.
14:29:46 <AlbertoR> s/ErcP/EricP/
14:29:58 <AndyS> zakim, ??P5 is SimonR
14:29:58 <Zakim> +SimonR; got it
14:30:06 <Zakim> +DanC
14:30:30 <Zakim> +Kendall_Clark
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14:30:43 <kendall> zakim, mute me
14:30:43 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should now be muted
14:30:53 <Zakim> +??P8
14:30:59 <Zakim> +Kevin
14:31:02 <DanC> Zakim, ??P8 is DaveB
14:31:02 <Zakim> +DaveB; got it
14:31:07 <DanC> Zakim, who is on the phone?
14:31:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see HowardK, ??P1, AndyS, AlbertoR, Yoshio, SimonR, DanC, Kendall_Clark (muted), DaveB, Kevin
14:32:13 <HiroyukiS> P1 is me?
14:32:22 <Zakim> +SteveH
14:33:14 <kendall> I have.
14:33:19 <kendall> zakim, unmute me
14:33:19 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted
14:33:35 <kendall> zakim, mute me
14:33:35 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should now be muted
14:34:08 <DanC> Zakim, who is on the phone?
14:34:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see HowardK, HiroyukiS, AndyS, AlbertoR, Yoshio, SimonR, DanC, Kendall_Clark (muted), DaveB, Kevin, SteveH
14:34:17 <kendall> zakim, mute me
14:34:17 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark was already muted, kendall
14:34:19 <kendall> zakim, unmute me
14:34:19 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted
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14:35:30 <DanC> agenda + services
14:35:50 <DaveB> didn't we lose something on the agenda about disjunction last week?
14:36:06 <DanC> agenda + lifesci debrief
14:36:47 <DanC> ACTION AlbertoR: owns issue 'DESCRIBE'. CONTINUES. eta: mid nov
14:37:16 <DanC> agenda + tests (input from alberto, steve)
14:37:27 <DaveB> I have read Alberto's tests
14:37:40 <SimonR> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0186.html
14:38:06 <DanC> SimonR: I'm working on connecting kowari to tests.
14:38:14 <kendall> zakim, mute me
14:38:14 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should now be muted
14:38:17 <kendall> zakim, unmute me
14:38:17 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted
14:38:35 <kendall> excuse me
14:38:41 <kendall> battling a cold
14:38:44 <DaveB> I am also away 23rd, 30th
14:39:10 <Yoshio> regrets for the next week (I'm away to attend ISWC2004)
14:39:25 <DanC> ACTION DanC: owner of issue 'yes or no questions' CONTINUES (pending protocol doc).
14:39:33 <DanC> ACTION KendallC: write a protocol document draft
14:40:46 <DanC> ACTION DaveB: Update the source section 9... some progress. CONTINUES
14:40:54 <DanC> agenda + grammar/syntax ($ etc.)
14:42:03 <DanC> DONE: ACTION SteveH: take rs:size out of expected results from all tests (let's discuss under tests)
14:42:12 <DanC> ACTION SteveH: own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue
14:42:28 <AlbertoR> SteveH action done at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0196.html
14:42:36 <DanC> ACTION SteveH: owns issue 'nested optionals'
14:43:10 <kendall> zakim, mute me
14:43:10 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should now be muted
14:43:20 <DanC> . ACTION EricP: supply definitions for SELECT (vars ordered or not?) ala
14:43:20 <DanC> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0151.html
14:43:43 <DanC> Minutes of DAWG telecon 2004-10-26 for review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0194.html
14:43:56 <kendall> zakim, unmute me
14:44:03 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted
14:44:09 <DanC> ammended to show regrets from a few. (scribble them in please?)
14:44:24 <DanC> RESOLVED to accept 0194+regrets
14:44:30 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:44:30 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review record and agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0193.html" taken up [from DanC]
14:44:32 <AlbertoR> Previous teleconference minutes accepted http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0193.html
14:44:36 <DanC> Zakim, close agendum 1
14:44:36 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:44:37 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:44:38 <Zakim> 2. services [from DanC]
14:44:42 <DanC> Zakim, take up agendum 2
14:44:42 <Zakim> agendum 2. "services" taken up [from DanC]
14:45:21 <AlbertoR> as amendments http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0195.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0197.html
14:45:31 <kendall> are we being stalked? the heavy breather is bad today.
14:45:34 <DaveB> EricP, AndyS, SteveH and I have proposed a www2004 workshop on sparql
14:45:55 <SteveH> And I've been asked to write a couple of paras for Agent Link
14:45:57 <kendall> www2005?
14:46:02 <DaveB> & s/workshop/tutorial/ 
14:46:16 <AlbertoR> DanC is asking about producers and consumers of DAWG SPARQL enabled services
14:46:26 <kendall> daveb: in japan?
14:46:49 <DaveB> it' take a coupla secs to make my rdql demo into a sparql one
14:46:56 <DaveB> but it wouldn't be too exciting
14:46:58 <AlbertoR> SteveH they have got some computer science datasets made aval throuhg SPARQL/RSQL interface
14:47:07 <Yoshio> re: www2005, yes in Makuhari(Chiba)
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14:47:29 <Zakim> +PatH
14:47:54 <DaveB> use my sparql parser, SteveH :)
14:48:07 <SteveH> DaveB, I will
14:50:29 <AlbertoR> Alberto (Asemantics) has some SPARQL related demos i.e. take a SPARQL query and generate XML output into an XSLT pipeline - and some SPARQL to iCal
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14:50:55 <Zakim> +??P12
14:51:18 <AlbertoR> DaveB has some demos about educational material which might be put aval under a SPARQL interface
14:51:56 <AndyS> Who is planning to have a client or server over the protocol by March?  Not (just) a query engine i.e. where can we work over the web between two implementations?
14:52:21 <SimonR> We'll certainly have it by then.
14:52:22 <DaveB> the protocol better turn up soon, for that ;)
14:52:24 <SimonR> , Andy.
14:52:46 <kendall> I'm planning to have a client by March.
14:53:00 <AndyS> I'll have both soon, SimonR - let's try to interwork
14:53:20 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:53:20 <Zakim> agendum 3. "lifesci debrief" taken up [from DanC]
14:53:22 <SimonR> AndyS: You're on.  
14:53:25 <SteveH> I'l write a ECMASCript client soon after the protcol/result format is fixedish
14:53:35 <Yoshio> SPARQL was sparkling
14:53:56 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2004/07/swls-ws.html
14:54:05 <AlbertoR> AndyS and Kendall reports about Life Science workshop in Boston last week
14:54:23 <DanC> W3C Workshop on Semantic Web for Life Sciences http://www.w3.org/2004/07/swls-ws.html
14:55:19 <AlbertoR> Kendall says that the Life Science community seems needing a technology as DAWG SPARQL (query language and protocol)
14:55:58 <AlbertoR> AndyS says that there is an increasing awareness about RDF and related technologies (DAWG also)
14:56:16 <DanC> Zakim, next agenum
14:56:16 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next agenum', DanC
14:56:20 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:56:20 <Zakim> agendum 4. "tests (input from alberto, steve)" taken up [from DanC]
14:56:27 <DaveB> did somebody say there was a new UC from the workshop?
14:56:30 <AlbertoR> but most solutions are still "centralistic" and not really fitting the RDF model
14:56:49 <Yoshio> data federation was needed definitely
14:56:58 <AndyS> s/most solutions/some solutions/ esp if need fixed data models
14:57:19 <kendall> andy: yr right about the variations, but i meant specifically the pharma corps. there was variation across the whole workshop.
14:57:47 <AlbertoR> DaveB started to digest some SOURCE test cases as provided by Alberto - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0198.html
14:57:48 <DaveB> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0198.html
14:58:33 <patH> Chris Bizer just posted a msg to rdf-interest about querying named graphs, based on RDQL. Interesting.
14:58:33 <AlbertoR> DaveB points out that we need a simple vocabulary to describe the type of input and output (and query) documents
14:59:04 <AndyS> +1 (mildly) to typing input and output
15:00:35 <AlbertoR> Alberto supports RDF/XML as the format for input and output of tests
15:00:48 <AlbertoR> even though N3/Turtle syntax is pretty handy to type
15:01:20 <patH> Why not publish tests in both formats?
15:01:21 <SimonR> +1 to Alberto's comments.
15:01:22 <AlbertoR> SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to in/out RDF/XML
15:01:36 <AlbertoR> ACTION: SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to in/out RDF/XML
15:02:10 <DaveB> won't the urls have to change s/.n3/.rdf/ in all the queries, manifests etc.?
15:02:47 <SimonR> I'd really prefer to have only one normative version of the tests.
15:02:47 <AlbertoR> manifest.rdf is for RDF/XMl
15:02:53 <AlbertoR> manifest.n3 N3/Turtle
15:03:27 <patH> if there is only one (normative) then it should be the official XML. 
15:03:45 <AlbertoR> SimonR supports RDF/XML syntax for tests - but is alos looking  into Turtle
15:04:14 <Yoshio> I respect RDF/XML as a lingua franca
15:04:28 <DaveB> also Sesame's got a standalone Turtle parser in RIO
15:04:55 <AlbertoR> AndyS points out that SPARQL spec/document still contains some Turtle/N3 syntax vs. RDF/XML i.e. easier to read
15:05:23 <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/
15:05:32 <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/#sparql-query-example-2-1a
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15:09:06 <AndyS> dave - yes - there will be a chnage of URLs somewhere
15:09:08 <AlbertoR> as soon as we have got some rdf:parserType="LIteral" I think we start to see the benfits of RDF/XML vs. comma,sperated value format
15:09:52 <DanC> PROPOSAL: that tests shall have input in RDF/XML and turtle, query in SPARQL, output in RDF/XML and turtle, manifest in turtle; manifest to be enhanced to explicitly type files.
15:10:29 <DaveB> +1
15:11:07 <AndyS> +1
15:11:07 <AlbertoR> q+
15:12:25 <AlbertoR> me
15:12:30 <DanC> PROPOSAL: that tests shall have input in RDF/XML and turtle, query in SPARQL, output in RDF/XML and turtle, manifest in RDF/xml and turtle; manifest to be enhanced to explicitly type files.
15:12:41 <AlbertoR> DaveB and AndyS support manufest.n3
15:12:52 <AlbertoR> DaveB adn Alberto support manifest.n3 and manifest.rdf
15:12:59 <DanC> so RESOLVED.
15:13:08 <DanC> ACTION SteveH: make it so.
15:14:00 <kendall> +1
15:14:20 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
15:14:20 <Zakim> agendum 5. "grammar/syntax ($ etc.)" taken up [from DanC]
15:15:04 <kendall> I will object to $ only, I think. FYI.
15:15:12 <AlbertoR> Discussion is now about $ vs. ? on variable identifiers
15:15:44 <DaveB> last week's straw poll was very much $-favourable
15:15:58 <AlbertoR> ?: 3 votes
15:16:02 <AlbertoR> $: 3 votes
15:16:04 <Yoshio> Yoshio abstains
15:16:13 <HiroyukiS> +1 for ?
15:16:41 <kendall> zakim, mute me
15:16:41 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should now be muted
15:17:02 <AlbertoR> ACTION: AndyS to write a test cases which use ? and $ in the same query
15:17:20 <AndyS> Steve - yes
15:17:24 <AlbertoR> yes
15:17:29 <SteveH> fine
15:17:42 <AndyS> $ is a marker not part of the variable
15:18:07 <AlbertoR> AndyS the document will stick to ? but $ will be allowed - tests cases will nto generally be affected - but some $ tests cases are needed
15:20:14 <AlbertoR> discussion continued about newline (\n\r) and if they are allowed 
15:20:46 <AndyS> If one style - make it #
15:20:46 <kendall> zakim, unmute me
15:20:46 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted
15:21:03 <DaveB> wfm
15:21:03 <AlbertoR> comments syntax is still in discussion: RDQL had them all (single and multiline) both C, C++ and #
15:21:24 <kendall> i officially don't care about a language issue. yay for me!
15:22:17 <patH> Hey, just noticed: ?foo=$foo -1. I think that is a very bad idea. The first character is PART of the variable.
15:22:44 <AlbertoR> DaveB is working to implement SPARQL syntax and he found is probably too big - we might need some simplifications
15:22:48 <SimonR> +1 to DaveB's preference for single solutions to grammatical options
15:23:14 <kendall> +1, as long as mine wins. :)
15:23:33 <SimonR> +1 even if mine doesn't, frankly
15:23:44 <patH> kendall, you were made for an election day. 
15:23:50 <kendall> heh
15:23:56 <AlbertoR> One problem is that the syntax allows "too many syntactic sugar options" for the same clause -
15:24:16 <kendall> trying to be non-contentious with techie non-citizens *today* is v. hard for me. :)
15:24:19 <AlbertoR> which makes the grammar just bigger 
15:24:52 <AlbertoR> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0190.html
15:25:08 <AlbertoR> ?prefix:var
15:25:39 <AlbertoR> which would influence the Var terminal symbol into SPARQL BNF
15:26:17 <AlbertoR> SimonR there has been some offline discussion on IRC today about it with some people
15:26:36 <patH> suggest use a less generic prefix, "var" gets used for everything. ?prefix:queryVar?
15:26:57 <AlbertoR> SteveH does not like it
15:27:03 <AlbertoR> AndyS finds it confusing
15:27:25 <AndyS> FORTRAN only
15:27:54 <AndyS> APL?
15:27:54 <DaveB> I'll think about it re output xml format
15:28:01 <DanC> Zakim, close this agendum
15:28:01 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
15:28:02 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
15:28:18 <DaveB> next week - chair, scribe?
15:28:30 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kevin
15:28:36 <AlbertoR> DaveB will scrabe next week
15:28:42 <AlbertoR> s/scrabe/scribe/
15:28:45 <DaveB> since I'm away for 2 weeks after...
15:29:25 <AndyS> There are comments asking for disjunction
15:29:27 <AlbertoR> StaveH talking about dropping disjunction - he posted a message but he did not get enough feedback
15:29:29 <DanC> agenda + disjunction
15:29:33 <DanC> next agendum
15:29:43 <DanC> Steve: my position is to drop disjunction entirely.
15:29:56 <DanC> KC: I wanted to see more on nested optionals first
15:30:07 <AndyS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Oct/0008.html
15:31:02 <DaveB> steve's proposal 30Sep http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0604.html
15:33:19 <AlbertoR> disjunction issue needs more dicussion it seems i.e. drop it, keep simple disjunction or full disjunction
15:33:22 <DaveB> disjunction cases  from f2f3 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0492.html
15:33:28 <DanC> ACTION Simon: explain how much of disjuction can be done with optionals, nested or otherwise.
15:34:28 <AndyS> We have implementations - don't understand the case for its hard anymore - could someone explain (in email)
15:35:28 <DaveB> disjun & nested optionals easy?!
15:37:24 <kendall> zakim, mute me
15:37:24 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should now be muted
15:37:37 <kendall> zakim, unmute me
15:37:37 <Zakim> Kendall_Clark should no longer be muted
15:38:21 <AlbertoR> simple use-case on predicate dc1:title or dc2:title is good and simple enough to understand to me
15:38:35 <Zakim> -HowardK
15:38:38 <DanC> ciao, Howard
15:38:41 <kendall> AlbertoR: +1
15:39:26 <AlbertoR> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Sep/0000.html motivates simple disjunction
15:40:03 <AlbertoR> also true we can map that "expression" to some AND ?pred==dc1:title && ?pred==dc2:title -
15:41:32 <DanC> ACTION JanneS: send Jan ftf logistics
15:41:52 <DanC> ADJOURN.
15:41:55 <Zakim> -DaveB
15:41:57 <Zakim> -PatH
15:41:58 <Zakim> -JanneS
15:41:59 <Zakim> -Kendall_Clark
15:41:59 <Zakim> -DanC
15:42:00 <AlbertoR> meetign adjourned
15:42:00 <Zakim> -SimonR
15:42:01 <Zakim> -Kevin
15:42:02 <Yoshio> bye bye
15:42:03 <Zakim> -HiroyukiS
15:42:06 <Zakim> -AlbertoR
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15:42:10 <Zakim> -SteveH
15:42:22 <Zakim> -Yoshio
15:42:28 <AndyS> Anything anyone wants to talk about now?
15:42:33 <Zakim> -AndyS
15:42:34 <Zakim> SW_DAWG()9:30AM has ended
15:42:35 <Zakim> Attendees were HowardK, AlbertoR, Yoshio, AndyS, SimonR, DanC, Kendall_Clark, Kevin, DaveB, SteveH, HiroyukiS, PatH, JanneS
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15:42:59 <SimonR> You mentioned working on early interop....
15:43:19 <AndyS> SimonR - yes
15:43:27 <SimonR> Although it looks like my spare time for the next little while is going to be absorbed by the disjunction issue.
15:43:38 <AndyS> Well - no - interop of one is a bit boring :-)
15:43:52 <AndyS> s/disjunction/union/ and I heard more agreement.
15:44:18 <AndyS> and a syntax with "OR" doesn't have a long enough keyword for people to spot !
15:44:40 <AndyS> Where are you timewise on an networkable implementation?
15:45:57 <SimonR> Let's see -- I'd have to finish the parser and whatever network layer we're going to use.
15:47:05 <AndyS> HTTP not SOAP for now?
15:47:14 <SteveH> yes please
15:47:25 <SimonR> I despise SOAP -- I'm entirely in favor of HTTP.
15:47:43 <AndyS> Steve - for WWW2005 - only HTTP because it is hard to set up SOAP in the tutorial.
15:47:55 <SimonR> Just something simple we can do with servlets, I'd presume?
15:47:56 <AndyS> Time does down the drain
15:48:15 <AndyS> Kendall willing :-) YES
15:48:46 <AndyS> Its hard to see how it can't be as servlets are an API to incoming HTTP
15:49:30 <AndyS> http://host/service?query=SELECT... and lots of nasty % encodings.
15:49:46 <AndyS> No comments on the wire :-)
15:50:28 <AndyS> That sort of thing work for you?
15:50:53 <SimonR> GET or POST, I don't really mind.
15:50:59 <AndyS> GET
15:51:14 <SimonR> I don't think the servlet will care.
15:51:38 <AndyS> (I do both - GET with ?queryString is not cachded by default in HTTP RFC)
15:51:53 <AndyS> Servlet does not - just a different entry point.
15:52:11 <SimonR> And we'll be returning results in one of DaveB's formats, I'd presume.
15:53:31 <AndyS> Yes for XML (SELECT, ASK), RDF/XML otherwise (SELECT, CONSTRUCT, DESCRIBE) or MIME type neg .. let's leave the latter for now (I have the code already but its not core to SPARQL)
15:53:54 <AndyS> The XML retrun is the biggest piece of redesign for Joseki and its clients.
15:54:15 <AndyS> Can we start with RDF of result set?
15:54:44 <SimonR> I'd prefer that, personally.  I thought you pro-XML?
15:55:18 <AndyS> I'm neutral - it depends what the app wants to do with it.
15:55:54 <AndyS> I have seen just a few apps RDF->XML outside the XHTML case.
15:56:16 <AndyS> So RDF it is for stage 1.
15:57:20 <AndyS> You didn't quite get onto to timescale - but I have a doc to finish so I have limits here
15:57:35 <AndyS> Anyone else up for interop?
15:58:05 <SimonR> Realistically, it'll take me a while.  I might have something rickety up in a fortnight or so.
15:58:54 <AndyS> Can't guarantee that but I'll try.  I have most of the pieces and some coding will save me from spec overload.
16:00:12 <SimonR> We'll compare notes again next Tuesday and see where we are.  :)
16:00:21 <AndyS> :-)
16:00:57 <AndyS> I'll be on IRC as well.
16:01:28 <AndyS> Need to go now - my otherself will be logging
16:01:35 <SimonR> See you in time....
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18:31:14 <DanC> RRSAgent, pointer
18:31:14 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T18-31-14
18:31:22 <DanC> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
18:31:27 <DanC> RRSAgent, bye
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> I see 11 open action items:
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AlbertoR to owns issue 'DESCRIBE'. CONTINUES. eta: mid nov [1]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-36-47
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: DanC to owner of issue 'yes or no questions' CONTINUES (pending protocol doc). [2]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-39-25
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: KendallC to write a protocol document draft [3]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-39-33
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: DaveB to Update the source section 9... some progress. CONTINUES [4]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-40-46
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveH to own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue [5]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-42-12
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveH to owns issue 'nested optionals' [6]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T14-42-36
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveH is willing to adapt his testing infrastructure to in/out RDF/XML [7]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-01-36
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveH to make it so. [8]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-13-08
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AndyS to write a test cases which use ? and $ in the same query [9]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-17-02
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Simon to explain how much of disjuction can be done with optionals, nested or otherwise. [10]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-33-28
18:31:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JanneS to send Jan ftf logistics [11]
18:31:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/11/02-dawg-irc#T15-41-32