IRC log of swbp on 2004-10-14

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17:59:17 [PhilT]
hi all
17:59:21 [RalphS]
zakim, this will be swbpd
17:59:23 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled near this time, RalphS
17:59:25 [RalphS]
zakim, this will be swbp
17:59:29 [Zakim]
ok, RalphS; I see SW_BPD()2:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
17:59:47 [RalphS]
Meeting: SWBPD WG
18:00:23 [RalphS]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Oct/0053.html
18:00:33 [RalphS]
RalphS has changed the topic to: SWBPD WG agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Oct/0053.html
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18:02:05 [RalphS]
Previous: 2004-09-30 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Oct/0008.html
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18:03:46 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is here?
18:03:46 [Zakim]
sorry, ChrisW, I don't know what conference this is
18:03:47 [Zakim]
On IRC I see MIkeU, Natasha, GaryNg, ChrisW, David_Wood, aliman, Zakim, RRSAgent, RalphS, PhilT, aharth, libby, guus
18:04:09 [ChrisW]
zakim, list conferences
18:04:09 [Zakim]
I see SW_BPD()2:00PM, SVG_WG(css tf)2:00PM active
18:04:10 [Zakim]
also scheduled at this time is WAI_UAWG()2:00PM
18:04:18 [ChrisW]
zakim, this is sw_bpd
18:04:18 [Zakim]
ok, ChrisW; that matches SW_BPD()2:00PM
18:04:18 [RalphS]
Regrets: BenA, BenB, Bernard, Lars Marius, Brian
18:04:54 [dlm]
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18:05:15 [dlm]
i will be on the telecon a little late. i am finishing another telecon now
18:05:26 [RalphS]
zakim, who is on the phone?
18:05:26 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +44.774.092.aaaa, ??P1, Darren_Govoni, Guus_Schreiber, Libby_Miller, David_Wood, Evan_Wallace, ??P10, ??P11, [IBM], ??P14, Gary_Ng
18:05:36 [MIkeU]
This is a test.
18:05:47 [ChrisW]
zakim, [ibm] is temporarily ChrisW
18:05:47 [Zakim]
+ChrisW; got it
18:05:55 [libby]
[[
18:05:57 [libby]
IRC Chat: irc:irc.w3.org (port 6665), #swbp
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Web-based IRC (member-only):
18:05:57 [libby]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Jun/0033.html
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]]
18:07:55 [Zakim]
+??P16
18:08:24 [Zakim]
+Andreas_Harth (was ??P1)
18:08:28 [ChrisW]
zakim, ??P16 is Jeff
18:08:28 [Zakim]
+Jeff; got it
18:08:44 [dgovoni]
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18:09:33 [ChrisW]
zakim, aaaa is PhilT
18:09:33 [Zakim]
+PhilT; got it
18:09:57 [guus]
zakim, wo is here?
18:09:57 [Zakim]
sorry, guus, I do not understand your question
18:10:03 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is here?
18:10:03 [Zakim]
On the phone I see PhilT, Andreas_Harth, Darren_Govoni, Guus_Schreiber, Libby_Miller, David_Wood, Evan_Wallace, ??P10, ??P11, ChrisW, ??P14, Gary_Ng, Jeff
18:10:06 [Zakim]
On IRC I see dgovoni, dlm, MIkeU, Natasha, GaryNg, ChrisW, David_Wood, aliman, Zakim, RRSAgent, RalphS, PhilT, aharth, libby, guus
18:10:39 [ChrisW]
zakim, ??P10 Alistair
18:10:39 [Zakim]
I don't understand '??P10 Alistair', ChrisW
18:10:44 [ChrisW]
zakim, ??P10 is Alistair
18:10:44 [Zakim]
+Alistair; got it
18:10:53 [ChrisW]
zakim, ??P11 is Natasha
18:10:53 [Zakim]
+Natasha; got it
18:10:53 [guus]
zakim, ??p10 is Alistair
18:10:54 [Zakim]
I already had ??P10 as Alistair, guus
18:11:32 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is here?
18:11:32 [Zakim]
On the phone I see PhilT, Andreas_Harth, Darren_Govoni, Guus_Schreiber, Libby_Miller, David_Wood, Evan_Wallace, Alistair, Natasha, ChrisW, ??P14, Gary_Ng, Jeff
18:11:33 [dgovoni]
completed roll call & regrets
18:11:35 [Zakim]
On IRC I see dgovoni, dlm, MIkeU, Natasha, GaryNg, ChrisW, David_Wood, aliman, Zakim, RRSAgent, RalphS, PhilT, aharth, libby, guus
18:11:43 [dgovoni]
proposal to accept minutes of Sept 30 telecon
18:11:58 [dgovoni]
proposal was 2nd'd and resolved
18:13:18 [dgovoni]
proposed: accept minutes of Sept 16 with Adams changes (0067)
18:13:45 [Jeff]
Jeff has joined #swbp
18:14:19 [dgovoni]
proposal to accept Sept 16 minutes were second'd
18:14:26 [dgovoni]
resolved: minutes of Sept 16 accepted.
18:15:28 [dgovoni]
proposed: next telecon Oct 28th 1400
18:15:43 [dgovoni]
Proposal for agenda amendments?
18:15:51 [libby]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=28&month=10&year=2004&hour=14&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 <-- in your timezone
18:16:47 [dgovoni]
first agenda item closed
18:16:53 [dgovoni]
action item review begins
18:18:01 [dgovoni]
ACTION: jjc to update f2f by tuesday next (DONE)
18:18:01 [ChrisW]
zakim, list actions
18:18:01 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'list actions', ChrisW
18:18:10 [ChrisW]
rrsagent, list actions
18:18:10 [RRSAgent]
I see 1 open action item:
18:18:10 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: jjc to update f2f by tuesday next (DONE) [1]
18:18:10 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-18-01
18:18:46 [dgovoni]
ACTION: BenB read ODM documents (DONE for Guus, continue for Ben)
18:19:31 [dgovoni]
ACTION: Guus contact Pat and Jos about Web Arch comments (DISCONTINUE)
18:19:44 [dlm]
whenever you are on the f2f topic, could we get confirmation that there will be a high quality speaker phone available in the meeting to facilitate remote participation?
18:20:01 [dgovoni]
ACTION: Guus send e-mail about telecon attendance, as it's getting low (DONE)
18:20:12 [dgovoni]
ACTION: Ralph create a WBS registration page for the FtF (DONE)
18:20:39 [dgovoni]
ACTION: Ralph post his attendance analysis ('good standing' record) to the list (done, but msg needs to get to list) (DONE)
18:21:31 [dgovoni]
ACTION: gary ng review ODM (CONTINUE)
18:21:39 [dgovoni]
ACTION: chris welty review ODM (CONTINUE)
18:22:05 [dgovoni]
ACTION: Ralph to ask WG for feedback on requirement to embed RDF/XML markup in an XHTML document (CONTINUE)
18:22:16 [dgovoni]
ACTION: Jeremy to check semantics on DAWG use of XSD in abstract query model. (DONE)
18:22:29 [dgovoni]
ACTION: darren review DAWG use cases document (DONE)
18:22:52 [David_Wood]
Tom Adams sends belated regrets.
18:23:01 [dgovoni]
ACTION: danbri circulate links for his existing feedback/review to dawg (CONTINUE)
18:23:10 [dgovoni]
ACTION: jjc make a first sketch of short guideline note for using xml schema datatypes (in rdf/owl) (CONTINUE)
18:23:39 [dgovoni]
ACTION: jjc to send message to XSLT wg and query (DONE)
18:23:46 [dgovoni]
ACTION: jjc to send message to xmls wg (DONE)
18:23:53 [dgovoni]
ACTION: libby to summarize ADTF before f2f (DONE)
18:24:06 [dgovoni]
ACTION: PhilT to summarize interests from UK National Govt (DONE)
18:26:50 [David_Wood]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35495/2ndf2f-b/results
18:29:36 [guus]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35495/ftf-2/
18:30:33 [Zakim]
+??P17
18:31:06 [dlm]
i am on the phone now as well as just irc (deborah mcguinness)
18:31:11 [ChrisW]
zakim, ??P17 is deb
18:31:11 [Zakim]
+deb; got it
18:32:18 [libby]
docs for the f2f need to be ready by oct 25th
18:32:32 [aliman]
Zakim, mute Alistair
18:32:32 [Zakim]
Alistair should now be muted
18:32:46 [libby]
..agenda wil contain the list of documents (guus)
18:32:50 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is talking?
18:33:01 [Zakim]
ChrisW, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilT (4%), Guus_Schreiber (20%), Evan_Wallace (4%), David_Wood (29%), Natasha (4%), Gary_Ng (4%)
18:33:10 [libby]
4. WEB ARCHITECTURE DRAFT
18:33:23 [libby]
keep or drop....guss inclined to drop
18:33:30 [libby]
action is finished
18:33:49 [libby]
5. ODM / UML ONTOLOGY PROFILE
18:33:56 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is talking?
18:34:05 [Jeff]
Jeff has joined #swbp
18:34:09 [Zakim]
ChrisW, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Guus_Schreiber (14%), Evan_Wallace (4%), Gary_Ng (4%), Jeff (10%)
18:34:31 [libby]
guus: important contact for this group, good for several of us to review it
18:34:43 [libby]
...guus pleased has owl-full and rdfs in revised version
18:35:23 [libby]
[someone] it seems that they want to ahve a DL model at the centre to sdescribe everythign else in
18:35:48 [libby]
...they do describe an abstract model as a superset of all the others, but implementations eeem to be DL-based
18:36:13 [libby]
...happy that the scope encourages interop, has well articulated set of requirements
18:36:29 [libby]
..one caveat is the core DL representation...
18:36:35 [ChrisW]
I blieve this is GaryNg
18:37:10 [libby]
[lost thread there]
18:38:16 [libby]
evan: the DL metamodel may be dropped/made just an informative annex. not clear if they'll ahve a mapping hub, but if they do (rather than one to one mappings) - looks likie owl-full
18:38:57 [libby]
garyng: will post detailed questions about it on the list
18:39:18 [libby]
chris: worth asking [main author] to join a telecon?
18:40:09 [libby]
action chris ask main author or representative to join a telecon or f2f via phone
18:40:38 [libby]
ACTION: chrisW ask main author or representative to join a telecon or f2f via phone
18:41:34 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is talking
18:41:34 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is talking', ChrisW
18:41:37 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is talking?
18:41:49 [Zakim]
ChrisW, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Evan_Wallace (7%)
18:44:36 [libby]
ACTION: chrisw to review document - dropped
18:45:49 [libby]
evan: ODM schedule is now going to take until next calendar year, orginal schedule for revised version was this month
18:46:01 [libby]
..they want to work on mappings and profile
18:46:13 [dgovoni]
agenda item 6
18:46:20 [libby]
6. Comments to DAWG on RDF Data Access, XQuery, Rules
18:46:57 [MIkeU]
Apologies: I need to leave now; I'll check the IRC notes later.
18:47:04 [Zakim]
-Alistair
18:47:31 [ChrisW]
zakim, who is here?
18:47:31 [Zakim]
On the phone I see PhilT, Andreas_Harth (muted), Darren_Govoni, Guus_Schreiber, Libby_Miller, David_Wood, Evan_Wallace, Natasha, ChrisW, ??P14, Gary_Ng, Jeff, deb
18:47:34 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Jeff, dgovoni, dlm, MIkeU, Natasha, GaryNg, ChrisW, David_Wood, aliman, Zakim, RRSAgent, RalphS, PhilT, aharth, libby, guus
18:47:44 [libby]
[I think mike was wrongly named alistair on phone...]
18:48:01 [ChrisW]
zakim, ??P14 is Alistair
18:48:01 [Zakim]
+Alistair; got it
18:48:03 [aliman]
yup ... maybe I'm ??P14 ?
18:49:16 [libby]
action: philT look at garyng's message, see what actions if any this wg shoudl take
18:50:14 [libby]
TF review
18:50:15 [libby]
7.1 OEP (Deb)
18:50:36 [libby]
deb: none of us will be physically at f2f, deb happy to participate remotely
18:50:42 [aliman]
PORT TF update link: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Oct/0064.html
18:51:08 [dgovoni]
thanks for helping libby
18:51:10 [libby]
deb: telecon - suggestions for new notes mostly form those who were willing to write them
18:51:41 [dgovoni]
I was minuting outside of irc. :/
18:52:02 [libby]
if we're duplicating, I'll stop :)
18:52:20 [dgovoni]
its fine. I'll collate before posting
18:52:33 [libby]
ok, thanks
18:52:43 [dgovoni]
my first time scribing. :)
18:53:00 [dgovoni]
evan to take lead on part-of notes, alan deb to collaborate
18:54:05 [libby]
chrisw? 'offered to do some stuff on 'fluents' - properties only true for a certain time. can;t really do it in rdf...4 different ways of doing it, one is reification note
18:54:24 [libby]
alan rector: leading scholarly note on different approaches ot partof relations
18:54:33 [dgovoni]
different kinds of part-of relations
18:54:50 [libby]
...alan probably can't start it till next year
18:55:17 [libby]
guus: did you talk about units and measures?
18:55:26 [dgovoni]
no one took lead on it
18:56:14 [dgovoni]
deb: lisa kendall at sandpiper has info on modeling units and measures
18:56:40 [dgovoni]
guus: have candidates from institute on this matter
18:56:40 [libby]
guus also has someone from his institute who might particpate. needs a separate group?
18:57:53 [dgovoni]
guus: discuss at f2f in more detail . dave wood agrees
18:58:09 [dgovoni]
guus: to deb, feedback on sandpiper version
18:58:37 [libby]
action: chrisw approach sophia about units and measures particpating
18:58:44 [dgovoni]
guus: invited experts clearly needed for this issue
18:59:10 [Zakim]
+Ralph
18:59:23 [RalphS]
[apologies for being later than I'd expected]
18:59:53 [libby]
chris: are you guus interested in a note on numeric ranges?
19:00:16 [libby]
action chrisw: action to ask guus re numeric ranges (done)
19:01:20 [dgovoni]
new action: allen to ask about OWL vs. congeneric frame modeling
19:01:40 [Jeff]
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19:01:53 [libby]
action guus: note on numeric ranges after the xml datatypes TF has finished
19:03:22 [dgovoni]
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19:03:25 [Zakim]
-ChrisW
19:03:27 [Zakim]
-PhilT
19:03:27 [libby]
action deb: taking lead on ?closing roles? (missed exactly what, sorry)
19:03:48 [libby]
7.2 PORT (Alistair)
19:03:52 [aliman]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Oct/0064.html
19:04:14 [dgovoni]
test
19:04:19 [dgovoni]
connection, dropped sorry
19:04:24 [Zakim]
-Alistair
19:04:28 [aliman]
http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core/spec/
19:04:44 [libby]
al: with respect to skos-core, 5 prposals on table, all pretty far along with consensus, next couple of weeks action these
19:04:59 [libby]
after these, can regenerate the spec, workign draft hopefully just after f2f
19:05:26 [libby]
action: al send update of this message to indicate docs we shoudl read before f2f by 25th oct
19:05:46 [aliman]
http://esw.w3.org/topic/SkosCoreGuideToc
19:05:47 [RalphS]
[was it Natasha who dropped off the phone, perhaps?]
19:06:07 [libby]
al: the other document is the guide (see url above) shoudl have an early draft of that by 25th
19:06:45 [libby]
..also been extensive discussion on a couple of issues, esp skos:concxept and owl class or individual relationship: no consensus as yet, hints welcome
19:07:21 [libby]
...also how to represent version and change-management in a schema - DC and owl approaches don;t map to the way thesaurus people do it
19:08:04 [libby]
al: working draft ofvocab spec immediately after f2f, and working draft of guide 2-3 weeeks later
19:08:26 [libby]
7.3 WordNet (Aldo)
19:08:55 [libby]
noone here...guus thinks needs a little more effort needed
19:09:16 [RalphS]
Guus: with a little effort [on WordNet] we can get a lot done
19:09:31 [dgovoni]
ACTION: task force planning for wordnet
19:09:57 [libby]
7.4 XML Schema datatypes (Jeremey)
19:11:13 [libby]
..collaboration being discussed in telecon tomorrow night
19:11:49 [libby]
7.5 Vocabulary management (TomB)
19:13:41 [libby]
action chairs: check status of vocab management for f2f
19:13:48 [David_Wood]
Updated RDF-in-XHTML requirements doc: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2004-10-12-tf
19:13:55 [libby]
7.6 HTML (Ben)
19:14:21 [libby]
guus: there seem to be many proposals, are these being reconciled?
19:14:42 [libby]
david: see ben's document (url above) trying to collase the discussion into one document
19:15:01 [David_Wood]
http://www.formsplayer.com/notes/rdf-a.html
19:15:02 [RalphS]
s/collase/collapse/
19:15:09 [dgovoni]
david: two issues, 1) req docs 2) html working group latest proposal
19:15:16 [libby]
...trying to have a telecon next week about requirements doc and the html WG's latest proposal (see url above)
19:15:29 [libby]
guus: input docs for f2f?
19:15:38 [dgovoni]
david: eric is trying to drive Ben towads final req doc and geting feedback to HTML WG shortly
19:16:25 [libby]
david thinks there are good enough solutions on the table
19:17:10 [libby]
ralph: has action to ask this wg of its opinion of importance of syntactic embedding of rdf/xml in xhtml, which was part of the old req doc
19:17:12 [dgovoni]
old req doc required embedding RDF-XML into XHTML, but perhaps giving up on the idea given other solutions on table
19:18:06 [libby]
ralph: practicalities of that one might need examining further but in general agrees plenty of solutions on the table
19:18:25 [libby]
..we need more TF telecons...
19:18:26 [dgovoni]
ralph: more telecons needed to prepare for f2f
19:18:33 [dgovoni]
guus: next one is next week
19:18:48 [dgovoni]
guus: input by monday on issues and links to docs involved
19:19:14 [dgovoni]
guus: how are teh decisions arrived at? posteriori
19:19:52 [libby]
milestone: document describing the various options for the f2f
19:20:20 [libby]
7.7 ADTF (Libby)
19:20:21 [dgovoni]
by Oct 25
19:21:24 [dgovoni]
libby: one option is DOP
19:21:46 [dgovoni]
?)
19:21:56 [dgovoni]
libby: others to describe their own projects
19:22:26 [dgovoni]
guus: this years semweb conference dominated by demos
19:22:59 [dgovoni]
libby: provide short descriptions and use vocabulary of DOP
19:23:19 [dgovoni]
guus: make it semantically searchable
19:23:24 [dgovoni]
guus: RDF ,etc.
19:23:40 [dgovoni]
libby: Yes, will use RDF and perhaps other vocabulary
19:23:58 [dgovoni]
guus: make it a note and things to read before f2f
19:24:23 [dgovoni]
guus: high on priority list
19:24:27 [libby]
action libby: make that note into a document to read for the f2f by 25th oct
19:24:39 [libby]
7.8 Tutorial Page (TomA)
19:24:42 [libby]
...leave for now
19:24:45 [libby]
AOB
19:24:50 [dgovoni]
tomA regrets
19:24:53 [libby]
deb: good speaker phone for f2f?
19:24:54 [dgovoni]
guus: other business..
19:25:05 [libby]
speakerphone - yep
19:25:22 [libby]
guus telecon at f2f likely to be end of the european day
19:25:39 [libby]
deb expects to join telecon, maybe natasha, maybe chrisW
19:25:45 [dgovoni]
guus: telecon should occur late in day - European
19:25:53 [libby]
ralph: people shoudl note of this on the meeting registration
19:26:13 [libby]
guus: maybe meet in hiroshima
19:26:39 [dgovoni]
guus: adjorn meeting comments
19:26:41 [RalphS]
yes, folks can use the f2f registration page to indicate that they cannot attend f2f but intend to attend by telecon
19:27:00 [dgovoni]
Thank you for helping Scribe Libby!
19:27:14 [Zakim]
-Evan_Wallace
19:27:15 [Zakim]
-Gary_Ng
19:27:16 [Zakim]
-Alistair
19:27:16 [Zakim]
-David_Wood
19:27:19 [Zakim]
-Andreas_Harth
19:27:21 [dgovoni]
meeting adjorns 3:27 EST
19:27:21 [Zakim]
-Guus_Schreiber
19:27:24 [Zakim]
-deb
19:27:26 [RalphS]
[regrets from me for 28 Oct -- we have a W3C workshop that day]
19:27:26 [Zakim]
-Darren_Govoni
19:27:31 [Zakim]
-Jeff
19:27:33 [Zakim]
-Ralph
19:27:38 [libby]
no prblem dgovoni, hope it didnt make things more difficult!
19:27:41 [Zakim]
-Libby_Miller
19:27:42 [Zakim]
SW_BPD()2:00PM has ended
19:27:43 [Zakim]
Attendees were +44.774.092.aaaa, Darren_Govoni, Guus_Schreiber, Libby_Miller, David_Wood, Evan_Wallace, Gary_Ng, ChrisW, Andreas_Harth, Jeff, PhilT, Alistair, Natasha, deb, Ralph
19:28:05 [aliman]
bye all!
19:28:15 [libby]
bye al!
19:28:21 [RalphS]
zakim, bye
19:28:21 [Zakim]
Zakim has left #swbp
19:28:31 [libby]
dgovoni, this log gets put on the web somewhere
19:28:32 [Jeff]
bye
19:28:40 [RalphS]
rrsagent, pointer?
19:28:40 [RRSAgent]
See http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T19-28-40
19:28:46 [RalphS]
rrsagent, bye
19:28:46 [RRSAgent]
I see 28 open action items:
19:28:46 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: jjc to update f2f by tuesday next (DONE) [1]
19:28:46 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-18-01
19:28:46 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: BenB read ODM documents (DONE for Guus, continue for Ben) [2]
19:28:46 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-18-46
19:28:46 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Guus contact Pat and Jos about Web Arch comments (DISCONTINUE) [3]
19:28:46 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-19-31
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ACTION: Guus send e-mail about telecon attendance, as it's getting low (DONE) [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-20-01
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ACTION: Ralph create a WBS registration page for the FtF (DONE) [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-20-12
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ACTION: Ralph post his attendance analysis ('good standing' record) to the list (done, but msg needs to get to list) (DONE) [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-20-39
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ACTION: gary ng review ODM (CONTINUE) [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-21-31
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ACTION: chris welty review ODM (CONTINUE) [8]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-21-39
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ACTION: Ralph to ask WG for feedback on requirement to embed RDF/XML markup in an XHTML document (CONTINUE) [9]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-22-05
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ACTION: Jeremy to check semantics on DAWG use of XSD in abstract query model. (DONE) [10]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-22-16
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ACTION: darren review DAWG use cases document (DONE) [11]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-22-29
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ACTION: danbri circulate links for his existing feedback/review to dawg (CONTINUE) [12]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-23-01
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ACTION: jjc make a first sketch of short guideline note for using xml schema datatypes (in rdf/owl) (CONTINUE) [13]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-23-10
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ACTION: jjc to send message to XSLT wg and query (DONE) [14]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-23-39
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ACTION: jjc to send message to xmls wg (DONE) [15]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-23-46
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ACTION: libby to summarize ADTF before f2f (DONE) [16]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-23-53
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ACTION: PhilT to summarize interests from UK National Govt (DONE) [17]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-24-06
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ACTION: chrisW ask main author or representative to join a telecon or f2f via phone [18]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-40-38
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ACTION: chrisw to review document - dropped [19]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-44-36
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ACTION: philT look at garyng's message, see what actions if any this wg shoudl take [20]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-49-16
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ACTION: chrisw approach sophia about units and measures particpating [21]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-58-37
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ACTION: chrisw to action to ask guus re numeric ranges (done) [22]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T19-00-16
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ACTION: guus to note on numeric ranges after the xml datatypes TF has finished [23]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T19-01-53
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ACTION: deb to taking lead on ?closing roles? (missed exactly what, sorry) [24]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T19-03-27-1
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ACTION: al send update of this message to indicate docs we shoudl read before f2f by 25th oct [25]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T19-05-26
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ACTION: task force planning for wordnet [26]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T19-09-31
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ACTION: chairs to check status of vocab management for f2f [27]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T19-13-41
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ACTION: libby to make that note into a document to read for the f2f by 25th oct [28]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T19-24-27