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14:28:32 <kendall> so that action can be dropped, IMIO
14:28:35 <kendall> er, immo
14:28:38 <kendall> errr! imo :>
14:29:01 <Zakim> +DanC
14:29:12 <Zakim> +??P11
14:29:18 <SimonR> That'd be me.
14:29:23 <Zakim> +??P12
14:29:25 <AndyS> zakim, ??P12 is AndyS
14:29:25 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:29:46 <JanneS> JanneS has joined #dawg
14:29:52 <ericP> zakim, please dial ericP-415
14:29:52 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
14:29:53 <Zakim> +EricP
14:29:54 <Zakim> +??P13
14:30:07 <Zakim> +Kendall_Clark
14:30:09 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P13 is SteveH
14:30:09 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
14:30:11 <Zakim> +??P14
14:30:38 <ericP> quiet here
14:31:54 <SteveH> +1 to ajourning
14:32:48 <AndyS> After call topic: what happnes to does rq23/ 
14:33:00 <AndyS> After call topic: what happens to rq23/ next
14:34:26 <Zakim> +Kevin
14:34:45 <DanC> Zakim, take up agendum 1
14:34:45 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene, take roll, review record and agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0096.html" taken up [from DanC]
14:34:58 <DanC> Zakim, who's on the phone?
14:34:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see PatH, DanC, SimonR, AndyS, EricP, SteveH, Kendall_Clark, JanneS, Kevin
14:34:59 <AndyS> "4 people" => Steve, Dave, Howard, Simon
14:35:30 <DanC> regrets: Dave Beckett, Jos De Roo, Howard, Farrukh
14:35:42 <KevinW> KevinW has joined #dawg
14:36:24 <kendall> SimonR scribe for 10-19 meeting
14:36:53 <AndyS> Possible regrets for Oct 19 - or maybe partial attenance
14:37:02 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:37:02 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Publication of SPARQL" taken up [from DanC]
14:37:06 <kendall> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004OctDec/0053.html -- APPROVED as minutes for last week's meeting (5 Oct)
14:37:21 <AndyS> Definite regrets for 26 Oct : on a plane
14:37:30 <kendall> Critical path for SPARQ QL for RDF -- EricP
14:37:50 <kendall> Draft has moved into W3C machinery, from which we hope some  good information will escape soon.
14:38:20 <kendall> PatH -- technical problems in definitions, which have been addressed, but he hasn't re-engaged since then
14:39:07 <kendall> AndyS would appreciate review of doc up to 4.3 -- post-pub review, that is.
14:39:16 <kendall> PatH -- can't do till Thursday
14:39:39 <kendall> ACTION PatH review SPARQL def'ns post-publication
14:39:55 <kendall> ACTION: PatH review SPARQL def'ns post-publication
14:39:58 <kendall> thx
14:40:29 <kendall> +1
14:40:43 <kendall> AndyS: issues should be raised distinctly from editorial points
14:40:58 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:40:58 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Publish UC&R" taken up [from DanC]
14:41:19 <kendall> EricP has req'd pub from W3C team
14:41:28 <kendall> re: UC&R
14:42:03 <kendall> status for UC&R is that we think we are finished
14:42:17 <kendall> no pending objectives or requirements, and editor would like to stop adding use cases
14:42:28 <kendall> SimonR: may have a use case for counting
14:42:53 <DanC> (counting... please no!)
14:42:56 <kendall> PatH: DAML ql potential users wanted counting
14:43:04 <ericP> q+ to ask about future changes to UC&R
14:43:24 <DanC> ack ericp
14:43:24 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask about future changes to UC&R
14:43:47 <kendall> EricP: reflected that there was some stability in the UC&R
14:44:58 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:44:58 <Zakim> agendum 4. "SPARQL Protocol" taken up [from DanC]
14:45:02 <kendall> me: blah blah :>
14:45:53 <ericP> cheers, all. i have to leave.
14:46:08 <AndyS> CU eric
14:46:22 <Zakim> -EricP
14:46:25 <AndyS> Thx for publication work.
14:47:05 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:47:05 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Web Services Constraints and Capabilities" taken up [from DanC]
14:47:19 <kendall> KendallC: protocol draft under furious work, should have something to show soonish -- for next week's meeting, ideally.
14:47:47 <kendall> EricP: attending the WS C&C workshop today; we anticipate a report from him next week.
14:48:02 <DanC> ACTION EricP: draft UC on overlap between RDF query and web service constraints with respect to WS-Policy
14:48:04 <DanC> continues
14:48:12 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:48:12 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Issues" taken up [from DanC]
14:48:32 <AndyS> AOB: Do we need to reply to any dawg-comments (Phil Dawes, others?)
14:48:51 <kendall> DanC: reformatted issues list from table to list
14:48:58 <DanC> agenda + comment from Dawes
14:49:06 <kendall> KendallC: let's chat about issues list after this meeting
14:49:19 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:49:19 <Zakim> agendum 7. "SOURCE" taken up [from DanC]
14:49:22 <kendall> [continue these actions...]
14:49:47 <kendall> ACTION SteveH: owns issue 'nested optionals'
14:49:47 <kendall> ACTION AlbertoR: owns issue 'DESCRIBE'
14:49:47 <kendall> ACTION DanC: owner of issue 'yes or no questions'
14:49:47 <kendall> ACTION SteveH: own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue
14:49:48 <kendall> ACTION DanC: talk with Kendall about issues list maintenance
14:49:55 <kendall> -- all continue
14:50:17 <kendall> SteveH: happy w/ amount of work re: SOURCE tests he's done so far; could do more later, if necessary
14:50:51 <kendall> ACTION: SteveH to turn his SOURCE tests into SPARQL ones
14:51:28 <kendall> ACTION SteveH: test cases (10 or so) re: current SOURCE design.
14:51:31 <kendall> completed
14:51:44 <kendall> ACTION AlbertoR: real test cases re: current SOURCE design. -- COMPLETED
14:51:57 <kendall> ACTION DaveB: Update the source section 9, add
14:51:57 <kendall> more formal links, update the examples, try to think about extra
14:51:57 <kendall> constraints as EricP proposed (SOURCE ?s and ?s only in in
14:52:00 <kendall> SELECT). Look at various people's source test cases.
14:52:03 <kendall> -- continues
14:52:11 <kendall> ACTION: Tom to send sample iTQL queries and result formats for 
14:52:14 <kendall> subqueries vs. disjunction  -- continues
14:52:58 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:52:58 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Comments from SWBP&D WG" taken up [from DanC]
14:54:05 <kendall> We are doing something HTTP-based.
14:54:34 <DanC> Zakim, next agendum
14:54:34 <Zakim> agendum 9. "comment from Dawes" taken up [from DanC]
14:55:19 <kendall> DanC: we have some obligation to pay some attention to comments that come in from others.
14:56:35 <kendall> ACTION: AndyS formally respond to phil dawes's comment, closing that loop for now 
14:56:46 <DanC> JC http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Sep/0007.html
14:58:28 <kendall> We informally note that this input is interesting and it will be considered in due course
15:00:30 <DanC> Zakim, agenda?
15:00:30 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:00:32 <Zakim> 9. comment from Dawes [from DanC]
15:03:01 <DanC> ADJOURN.
15:03:04 <kendall> -30-
15:03:09 <Zakim> -PatH
15:03:10 <Zakim> -JanneS
15:03:12 <Zakim> -SimonR
15:03:18 <Zakim> -Kevin
15:03:20 <DanC> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:03:25 <DanC> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
15:03:26 <KevinW> KevinW has left #dawg
15:03:28 <DanC> RRSAgent, pointer?
15:03:28 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T15-03-28
15:04:27 <DanC> RRSAgent, bye
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> I see 13 open action items:
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: PatH review SPARQL def'ns post-publication [1]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-39-55
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: EricP to draft UC on overlap between RDF query and web service constraints with respect to WS-Policy [2]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-48-02
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveH to owns issue 'nested optionals' [3]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-49-47
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AlbertoR to owns issue 'DESCRIBE' [4]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-49-47-1
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: DanC to owner of issue 'yes or no questions' [5]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-49-47-2
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveH to own (i.e. propose resolution to) disjunction issue [6]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-49-47-3
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: DanC to talk with Kendall about issues list maintenance [7]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-49-48
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveH to turn his SOURCE tests into SPARQL ones [8]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-50-51
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveH to test cases (10 or so) re: current SOURCE design. [9]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-51-28
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AlbertoR to real test cases re: current SOURCE design. -- COMPLETED [10]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-51-44
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: DaveB to Update the source section 9, add [11]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-51-57
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Tom to send sample iTQL queries and result formats for  [12]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-52-11
15:04:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AndyS formally respond to phil dawes's comment, closing that loop for now  [13]
15:04:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/10/12-dawg-irc#T14-56-35