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19:55:13 <sh1mmer> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:55:13 <Zakim> ok, sh1mmer, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started
19:55:20 <sh1mmer> Zakim, who is on the phone?
19:55:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft]
19:55:34 <sh1mmer> RRSAgent, make logs world visible
19:55:34 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make logs world visible', sh1mmer.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
19:56:41 <Zakim> +??P1
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19:57:03 <nabe> good morning
19:57:04 <bengt> zakim, ??p1 is Bengt_Farre
19:57:04 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
19:57:14 <bengt> zakim, I am Bengt_Farre
19:57:14 <Zakim> ok, bengt, I now associate you with Bengt_Farre
19:57:22 <bengt> zakim, mute me
19:57:22 <Zakim> Bengt_Farre should now be muted
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19:59:08 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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19:59:50 <Zakim> +Becky_Gibson
19:59:58 <Zakim> +Tom_Croucher
19:59:58 <Zakim> +John_Slatin
20:00:15 <bengt> hmm, I cant hear anything !
20:00:17 <rcastaldo> rcastaldo has joined #wai-wcag
20:00:26 <rcastaldo> HI all
20:00:47 <Zakim> +??P6
20:00:48 <Zakim> +??P7
20:00:51 <sh1mmer> Zakim, I am Tom
20:00:51 <Zakim> ok, sh1mmer, I now associate you with Tom_Croucher
20:00:52 <sh1mmer> mute me
20:00:56 <sh1mmer> Zakim, mute me
20:00:56 <Zakim> Tom_Croucher should now be muted
20:01:09 <sh1mmer> Zakim, [Microsoft] is Mike
20:01:09 <Zakim> +Mike; got it
20:01:16 <Zakim> +??P8
20:01:17 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
20:01:19 <sh1mmer> Zakim, unmute me
20:01:19 <Zakim> Tom_Croucher should no longer be muted
20:01:38 <Zakim> +??P1
20:01:46 <sh1mmer> Zakim, mute me
20:01:47 <Zakim> +Wendy
20:01:48 <Zakim> Tom_Croucher should now be muted
20:01:49 <bengt> zakim, ??P1 is Bengt_Farre
20:01:49 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:01:58 <rcastaldo> Zakim, I am Roberto_Castaldo
20:01:58 <Zakim> sorry, rcastaldo, I do not see a party named 'Roberto_Castaldo'
20:02:00 <bengt> zakim, I am Bengt_Farre
20:02:00 <Zakim> ok, bengt, I now associate you with Bengt_Farre
20:02:05 <wendy> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:02:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Becky_Gibson, Tom_Croucher (muted), John_Slatin, ??P7, ??P6, ??P8, Bengt_Farre, Wendy
20:02:06 <bengt> zakim, mute me
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20:02:07 <Zakim> Bengt_Farre should now be muted
20:02:16 <sh1mmer> Zakim, unmute me
20:02:16 <Zakim> Tom_Croucher should no longer be muted
20:02:17 <wendy> zakim, who's making noise?
20:02:19 <bengt> zakim, who is making noise
20:02:19 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is making noise', bengt
20:02:26 <bengt> zakim, who is making noise ?
20:02:27 <Zakim> wendy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Mike (24%), Tom_Croucher (44%), ??P7 (90%), ??P8 (36%)
20:02:29 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
20:02:38 <Zakim> bengt, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Mike (17%), Katie_Haritos-Shea (4%), John_Slatin (37%), ??P7 (33%), ??P8 (7%), Wendy (18%)
20:02:46 <Zakim> +Matt
20:02:47 <rcastaldo> I've muted
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20:03:00 <sh1mmer> Zakim, who's on the phone?
20:03:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Becky_Gibson, Tom_Croucher, John_Slatin, ??P7, ??P6, ??P8, Bengt_Farre (muted), Wendy, Michael_Cooper, Matt
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20:03:05 <MichaelC> zakim, I am Michael_Cooper
20:03:05 <Zakim> ok, MichaelC, I now associate you with Michael_Cooper
20:03:09 <MichaelC> zakim, mute me
20:03:09 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper should now be muted
20:03:17 <sh1mmer> Zakim, ??P7
20:03:17 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P7', sh1mmer
20:03:19 <rcastaldo> I should be ??P7
20:03:21 <sh1mmer> Zakim, mute ??P7
20:03:21 <Zakim> ??P7 should now be muted
20:03:36 <wendy> zakim, ??P7 may be Roberto_Castaldo
20:03:36 <Zakim> +Roberto_Castaldo?; got it
20:03:38 <bengt> noise gone
20:03:40 <wendy> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:03:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Becky_Gibson, Tom_Croucher, John_Slatin, Roberto_Castaldo? (muted), ??P6 (muted), ??P8, Bengt_Farre (muted), Wendy, Michael_Cooper
20:03:42 <rcastaldo> k
20:03:43 <Zakim> ... (muted), Matt
20:03:57 <bengt> watanabe ?
20:03:59 <wendy> zakim, ??P6 may be Takayuki
20:03:59 <Zakim> +Takayuki?; got it
20:04:06 <wendy> zakim, ??P8 may be Gregg_and_Ben
20:04:06 <Zakim> +Gregg_and_Ben?; got it
20:04:09 <rcastaldo> Hi Michael
20:04:15 <wendy> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:04:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Becky_Gibson, Tom_Croucher, John_Slatin, Roberto_Castaldo? (muted), Takayuki? (muted), Gregg_and_Ben?, Bengt_Farre (muted), Wendy,
20:04:18 <Zakim> ... Michael_Cooper (muted), Matt
20:04:20 <MichaelC> Hi Roberto - long time...
20:04:20 <nabe> Yes, I think P6 is me.
20:04:27 <rcastaldo> :_)
20:04:29 <rcastaldo> :-)
20:05:13 <wendy> can someone minute?
20:05:38 <wendy> i guess i will. 
20:05:50 <wendy> latest draft:
20:05:52 <wendy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20040602.html
20:06:16 <nabe> I can't hear anything on the phone.
20:06:22 <wendy> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0667.html
20:06:45 <wendy> takayuki - maybe call back in?
20:06:47 <Zakim> +Sailesh_Panchang
20:06:51 <Zakim> -Takayuki?
20:07:22 <Zakim> +??P6
20:07:46 <wendy> zakim, ??P6 is Takayuki
20:07:46 <Zakim> +Takayuki; got it
20:08:01 <wendy> you can hear now. ;)
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20:08:30 <wendy> leave 1.1 aside for now since it is in process of being reworded.
20:08:40 <rcastaldo> HI Roberto
20:08:40 <wendy> 1.2
20:09:03 <rellero> hi, my line is only 28 Kbps, I follow only in irc
20:09:53 <wendy> scoping may help sort out issues with 1.2
20:10:08 <wendy> ack john
20:10:15 <wendy> refer to jason's recent email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0676.html
20:10:27 <wendy> basis of proposal: don't think scoping at level of individual success criteria
20:10:56 <Zakim> + +1.512.339.aaaa
20:11:09 <wendy> zakim, +1.512.339.aaaa is Andi
20:11:09 <Zakim> +Andi; got it
20:14:08 <GVAN> Q+
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20:14:16 <wendy> ack gvan
20:16:06 <sh1mmer> 1+
20:16:08 <sh1mmer> q+
20:16:50 <wendy> q+ to ask "others for reaction to jason's msg. he posits 2 options. can people speak to the issues he raises?"
20:17:29 <Zakim> -Sailesh_Panchang
20:17:42 <wendy> ack tom
20:18:35 <wendy> axes: content type (e.g., images), levels, scoping
20:18:50 <Zakim> +Sailesh_Panchang
20:19:42 <Zakim> -Sailesh_Panchang
20:19:43 <wendy> ack wendy
20:19:43 <Zakim> wendy, you wanted to ask "others for reaction to jason's msg. he posits 2 options. can people speak to the issues he raises?"
20:20:40 <Zakim> +Kerstin_Goldsmith
20:22:13 <Zakim> +Sailesh_Panchang
20:22:18 <MichaelC> q+
20:22:59 <wendy> current draft text: The scope of the conformance claim. The scope describes which parts of a site or application are included in the claim. (for example, a single page, an entire site, or a clearly defined portion of a site.)
20:23:35 <wendy> how do we describe what is included in scope of conformance claim or not?
20:23:40 <wendy> ack john
20:23:58 <wendy> not do scoping in success criteria, but provide guidance in conformance/scoping section.
20:24:06 <wendy> zakim, who's making noise?
20:24:17 <wendy> ack michael
20:24:19 <Zakim> wendy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Mike (5%), Katie_Haritos-Shea (18%), John_Slatin (61%), Gregg_and_Ben? (14%), Wendy (9%)
20:24:46 <wendy> support first of jason's proposals
20:25:01 <wendy> unless expect conformance claims to be machine-readable, not sure it makes much difference.
20:25:36 <wendy> general scoping mechanisms are the only that make sense
20:25:56 <wendy> q+ to say, "conformance profiles"
20:26:18 <GVAN> Q+
20:26:30 <wendy> ack wendy
20:26:30 <Zakim> wendy, you wanted to say, "conformance profiles"
20:26:31 <GVAN> ack wendy
20:28:20 <Andi> q+
20:29:10 <wendy> ack gvan
20:29:11 <sh1mmer> q+
20:29:17 <MichaelC> zakim, mute me
20:29:17 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper should now be muted
20:29:27 <wendy> conformance profiles? templates and examples to help people write their conformance claims.
20:30:26 <wendy> possible profiles: type of content (multimedia or document vs web application), purpose of content (portal vs e-commerce vs education)
20:30:34 <wendy> guidance (ala UAAG 1.0, but not as complicated)
20:31:10 <wendy> how do we deal w/fact that if we went with 1 but not 2, it would eliminate success criteria b/c we know they can't be applied everywhere.
20:31:35 <wendy> ack and
20:31:36 <wendy> ack andi
20:31:58 <wendy> exceptions in the guidelines are not a good idea, but things will be in level 1 that policy makers will require conformance to, when it might not be appropriate.
20:32:10 <wendy> conformance profiles could help people udnerstand when and what to apply to
20:32:21 <wendy> something stronger, e.g., model policy?
20:32:26 <wendy> ack tom
20:32:41 <wendy> agenda+ conformance profiles or model policies?
20:32:48 <GVAN> Q+
20:33:00 <wendy> what's scope vs what's defining appropriate methods?
20:33:15 <wendy> e.g., 1.1 "text equivalents are explicitly associated...exception..."
20:33:39 <wendy> if we got rid of the exception, unless put back in by policy makers it would make accessible spelling tests impossible.
20:33:46 <wendy> is that scoping or dealing w/accessibility issue?
20:34:46 <wendy> difference between what is scoping to define what needs to be done and scoping for the bounds of reasonableness (and not creating unusable guidelines). should be separated.
20:34:58 <wendy> q?
20:35:09 <wendy> ack john
20:35:44 <wendy> example of something that would come out o flevel 1 if we don't scope?
20:36:24 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:36:28 <Andi> wendy, mute me please
20:36:29 <wendy> move forward, carry these ideas to see if they hold up as we walk through
20:36:40 <wendy> andi, you can mute yourself by typing, "zakim, mute me"
20:36:52 <Andi> zakim, mute me
20:36:52 <Zakim> Andi should now be muted
20:36:56 <wendy> :)
20:37:35 <wendy> tests; could say "we do 1.1 except we don't provide captions for spelling tests"
20:37:53 <wendy> how do you avoid, "we're level 1 conformant except we don't provide alternatives for images"
20:38:12 <bcaldwell> q+
20:38:34 <wendy> ack gvan
20:38:40 <wendy> 1.2 - wanted to leave out webcams
20:39:28 <bcaldwell> q-
20:40:45 <Zakim> -Sailesh_Panchang
20:40:49 <sh1mmer> q+
20:41:11 <sh1mmer> ack Tom
20:42:05 <wendy> webcams w/speech recognition? scoping them out is not dealing w/accessibility, dealing w/hardships
20:42:26 <Zakim> +Sailesh_Panchang
20:46:36 <Andi> q+
20:47:48 <wendy> ack andi
20:48:12 <wendy> concept of "essential function"
20:48:33 <wendy> e.g., for ski resort, need webcam to get info? not usually, often available elsewhere on the site.
20:48:41 <wendy> ack john
20:48:44 <GVAN> q+
20:49:23 <wendy> asked question about images transmitted from rover (generated from tool, auto transmitted, and published w/no human intervention)
20:49:29 <wendy> webcams seem to have similar issues
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20:50:41 <wendy> ack gvan
20:50:47 <wendy> function is important concept.
20:51:01 <wendy> "essential function" can be problematic. e.g., of mobile phone.
20:51:05 <wendy> primary: dialing and talking
20:51:11 <wendy> secondary: charging batteries, etc.
20:51:13 <wendy> not useful
20:51:40 <wendy> ack Mike
20:51:48 <GVAN> q+
20:52:36 <wendy> creating scoping for people to create conformance claims, if they have inaccessible content doesn't make snse.
20:52:37 <wendy> ack gvan
20:53:26 <wendy> gregg uses analogy of building w/windows and need to describe what you can see outside of the windows.
20:53:34 <wendy> in order to make the building accessible
20:53:49 <wendy> webcams are often like windows
20:54:23 <wendy> we're writing guidelines on how to make content accessible, in conformance we say "you can't make claim if you aren't accessible" except where there is undue burden.
20:54:59 <wendy> ack john
20:55:29 <Zakim> -Mike
20:55:41 <Zakim> -Roberto_Castaldo?
20:56:04 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Goldsmith
20:56:05 <Zakim> +??P0
20:56:10 <Zakim> +??P7
20:56:36 <wendy> zakim, who's making noise?
20:56:45 <wendy> zakim, who's muted?
20:56:45 <Zakim> I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bengt_Farre, Michael_Cooper muted
20:56:47 <Zakim> wendy, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Tom_Croucher (45%), Takayuki (4%), ??P7 (48%), Gregg_and_Ben? (44%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (76%), Wendy (10%)
20:56:55 <wendy> zakim, ??P7  may be Roberto_Castaldo
20:56:55 <Zakim> +Roberto_Castaldo?; got it
20:57:01 <wendy> zakim, mute Roberto_Castaldo
20:57:01 <Zakim> Roberto_Castaldo? should now be muted
20:57:08 <wendy> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:57:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea (muted), Becky_Gibson, Tom_Croucher, John_Slatin, Gregg_and_Ben?, Bengt_Farre (muted), Wendy, Michael_Cooper (muted), Matt, Takayuki, Andi,
20:57:11 <Zakim> ... Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Sailesh_Panchang, ??P0, Roberto_Castaldo? (muted)
20:57:18 <wendy> zakim, ??P0 may be Kerstin
20:57:18 <Zakim> +Kerstin?; got it
20:57:55 <wendy> what are the resolutions for 1.2?
20:58:16 <wendy> moving on to 2.1
20:58:38 <wendy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20040602.html#keyboard-operation
21:02:51 <wendy> " where the functionality or its outcome can be described in a sentence," - can this be removed?
21:04:29 <wendy> sentences can be very long. is this an issue?
21:04:40 <wendy> needs to be rewritten and clarified
21:05:04 <wendy> why not "words" - sentence is too long.  however, "words" is even more vague.
21:05:16 <wendy> what about "phrase?"
21:06:09 <wendy> if get rid of scoping in level 1, it is the same as the level 3 criterion.
21:07:05 <wendy> 2.2
21:07:06 <wendy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20040602.html#time-limits
21:07:54 <wendy> most are methods, not exceptions. those that are exceptions: 
21:07:54 <wendy> the time limit is an important part of a real-time event (for example, an auction), and no alternative to the time limit is possible or;
21:07:54 <wendy> the time limit is part of an activity where timing is essential (for example, competitive gaming or time-based testing) and time limits can not be extended further without invalidating the activity.
21:08:08 <wendy> (level 1 criterion)
21:09:22 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
21:10:45 <wendy> overarching "scope" for whole guideline, "unless specific real-time events or rules of competition make such control impossible."
21:11:08 <wendy> also, scope in most criterion ala, "content that blinks for more than 3 seconds" and " moving or time-based content."
21:11:18 <wendy> thus, not exceptions, but scoping is built in
21:12:03 <wendy> 2.4
21:12:04 <wendy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20040602.html#navigation-mechanisms
21:12:14 <wendy> "documents greater than 50,000 words or sites larger than 50 perceived pages"
21:12:33 <wendy> how to require structure around a 1 paragraph note?
21:12:49 <wendy> just one p element...but says, "hierarchical structure, 
21:12:49 <wendy> table of contents (for pages) or site map (for sites), 
21:12:49 <wendy> alternate display order (for pages) or alternate site navigation mechanisms (for sites)
21:12:51 <wendy> "
21:13:08 <wendy> trying to say, "if small enough, don't have to do"
21:13:34 <wendy> times when don't need to provide skip navigation links
21:14:08 <Zakim> -Andi
21:14:19 <wendy> 2.5
21:14:21 <wendy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20040602.html#minimize-error
21:14:40 <wendy> "If a user error is detected, and suggestions for correction are known and can be provided without jeopardizing security or purpose (for example, test validity), they are provided "
21:14:47 <wendy> similar or different than what have seen before?
21:16:06 <wendy> types of exceptions: impossibility (e.g., if can't describe in words, no need for description), destroy function (e.g., captioning spelling tests), counter-productive (e.g., no need for skip nav links if onl y have 3 links),
21:16:39 <wendy> this seems to be combo of impossibility (may not be able to provide suggestions) and function (jeopardizing security)
21:16:56 <wendy> "Where consequences are significant and time-response is not important"
21:17:29 <wendy> if not significant, not useful to do. therefore, additional category, "useful"
21:17:57 <wendy> level 3 for 2.5
21:17:58 <wendy> Where the input options are known, there are less than 75 of them, and they can be provided without jeopardizing security, test validity, etc, users are allowed to select from a list of options as well as to enter text directly. 
21:18:21 <wendy> "known" = possibility, "<75" = counterproductive, "jeoparding..."=function
21:18:46 <wendy> 3.1
21:18:46 <wendy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20040602.html#meaning
21:19:37 <wendy> level 2, #4: note "This does not include use of foreign words in text where such usage is a standard extension of the language."
21:21:45 <wendy> scoping related to this, i.e., art, poems
21:23:05 <wendy> but, only 3.1 level 3 #4
21:23:12 <wendy> the others are applicable, even to poems or archives
21:23:31 <wendy> however, #4 (complexity of content) could it be scoped out for art? archives?
21:23:47 <wendy> 4.1
21:23:48 <wendy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20040602.html#use-spec
21:23:59 <wendy> "Except where the site has documented that a specification was violated for backward compatibility or compatibility with assistive technology,"
21:24:48 <wendy> that's scoping that applies across the site
21:24:56 <wendy> falls into counterproductive category?
21:26:41 <wendy> we've identified 4 primary reasons to create scopig (refer to 4 categories)
21:30:18 <sh1mmer> q+
21:30:26 <wendy> ack tom
21:30:40 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:30:49 <wendy> RRSAgent, make log world
21:31:42 <wendy> action: gregg write up 4 categories of exceptions that we identified to begin discussion on the list
21:31:57 <wendy> horizontal vs vertical concept?
21:32:01 <wendy> clarification about scoping
21:32:20 <Zakim> -Kerstin?
21:32:21 <wendy> proposals about conformance profiles?
21:32:36 <wendy> in some cases we see scoping and in others we see exceptions.
21:32:51 <wendy> is there a way to make them all one or the other?
21:33:12 <wendy> ack loretta
21:33:31 <wendy> can we capture the reasons that we have scoping/exceptions?
21:33:43 <wendy> then, within each guideline, we can highlight where the principles change the interpretation
21:34:21 <wendy> need to capture how we intend this to be used, particularly by regulatory bodies
21:34:53 <wendy> if we assume vertical scoping, but wcag 2.0 adopted by someone who does not allow vertical scoping...creates an issue
21:36:05 <nabe> q+
21:36:36 <wendy> action: loretta work with gregg on capturing how intend wcag 2.0 to be used, particularly by regulatory bodies.
21:36:57 <wendy> vertical: large parts of site don't conform (archive)
21:37:07 <wendy> horizontal: images (pieces taht go across several page)
21:37:18 <wendy> vertical: one particular page or section of site
21:37:35 <Zakim> -Matt
21:37:45 <wendy> horzizontaL: particular element applied across site (e.g., images, webcams that create content)
21:38:01 <wendy> my site is accessible, except this page that has a webcam - then that's vertical
21:38:39 <wendy> problem: if say "site except advertisements" but every page has ads...how handle?
21:38:47 <wendy> perhaps another category, "source of content"
21:40:36 <rcastaldo> Goodbye folks
21:40:37 <Zakim> -Tom_Croucher
21:40:38 <Zakim> -Wendy
21:40:38 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:40:39 <Zakim> -Becky_Gibson
21:40:40 <Zakim> -John_Slatin
21:40:41 <Zakim> -Sailesh_Panchang
21:40:42 <Zakim> -Gregg_and_Ben?
21:40:43 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
21:40:44 <Zakim> -Takayuki
21:40:46 <Zakim> -Roberto_Castaldo?
21:40:47 <rcastaldo> rcastaldo has left #wai-wcag
21:40:48 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:40:50 <Zakim> Attendees were Bengt_Farre, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Becky_Gibson, Tom_Croucher, John_Slatin, Mike, Wendy, Michael_Cooper, Matt, Roberto_Castaldo?, Takayuki?, Gregg_and_Ben?,
21:40:53 <Zakim> ... Sailesh_Panchang, Takayuki, Andi, Kerstin_Goldsmith, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Kerstin?
21:41:05 <wendy> reminders
21:41:12 <wendy> 1. poll re: 2 lists or 1
21:41:27 <wendy> 2. registration for f2f open. closes on 7 july
21:41:34 <wendy> 3. reduced rate for hotel expires on 29 june
21:41:39 <wendy> RRSAgent, bye
21:41:39 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items:
21:41:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: gregg write up 4 categories of exceptions that we identified to begin discussion on the list [1]
21:41:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/06/17-wai-wcag-irc#T21-31-42
21:41:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: loretta work with gregg on capturing how intend wcag 2.0 to be used, particularly by regulatory bodies. [2]
21:41:39 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/06/17-wai-wcag-irc#T21-36-36