13:57:22 RRSAgent has joined #swbp 13:57:29 Zakim has joined #swbp 13:57:33 zakim, this will be swbp 13:57:39 ok, RalphS; I see SW_BPD()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes 13:57:42 zakim, this will be swbp 13:57:57 ok, RalphS; I see SW_BPD()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes 13:58:03 SW_BPD()10:00AM has now started 13:58:03 alistair has joined #swbp 13:58:05 +??P4 13:58:09 + +1.760.812.aaaa 13:59:43 +NickG 14:00:50 +??P13 14:00:55 +??P14 14:01:02 +Ralph 14:01:48 +??P18 14:01:53 zakim, ??p14 is Alistair 14:01:53 +Alistair; got it 14:02:06 zakim, ??p13 is DavidN 14:02:06 +DavidN; got it 14:02:23 zakim, aaaa GaryNG 14:02:23 I don't understand 'aaaa GaryNG', RalphS 14:02:28 zakim, aaaa is GaryNG 14:02:28 +GaryNG; got it 14:02:52 zakim, ??p18 is Jeremy 14:02:52 +Jeremy; got it 14:03:07 +Evan_Wallace 14:03:28 Meeting: SWBPD WG 14:03:32 Chair: Ralph 14:03:41 zakim, who's on the call? 14:03:41 On the phone I see ??P4, GaryNG, NickG, DavidN, Alistair, Ralph, Jeremy, Evan_Wallace 14:03:56 +Natasha_Noy 14:03:59 zakim, ??p4 is Alan 14:03:59 +Alan; got it 14:04:10 Natasha has joined #swbp 14:04:24 nmg has joined #swbp 14:04:28 Regrets: Fabien Gandon, Libby Miller, Thomas Baker, Jacco van Ossenbruggen, Jim Hendler, Deb McGuinness, Mike Uschold, Benjamin Nguyen, Aldo Gangemi 14:04:45 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004May/0063.html 14:05:10 rrsagent, please make logs world-visible 14:05:36 zakim, who's on the call? 14:05:36 On the phone I see Alan, GaryNG, NickG, DavidN, Alistair, Ralph, Jeremy, Evan_Wallace, Natasha_Noy 14:06:05 previous: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Apr/0170.html 14:06:11 jjc has joined #swbp 14:06:30 PROPOSED to accept 0170 14:06:33 RESOVED 14:06:37 RESOLVED 14:07:42 +Bernard_Vatant 14:07:56 Zakim, who's on the call? 14:07:56 On the phone I see Alan, GaryNG, NickG, DavidN, Alistair, Ralph, Jeremy, Evan_Wallace, Natasha_Noy, Bernard_Vatant 14:08:17 Toipic: Action Item review 14:08:20 ACTION Ralph will list future dates and times for the telecons on the web site 14:08:25 done, through 24 June http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/#Current 14:08:43 ACTION Mike to post a proposal to the list on the syntax to use in notes and email 14:08:50 done: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Apr/0197.html 14:09:01 ACTION Guus to contribute a pattern on quantities for May 27th telecon 14:09:17 continue 14:09:22 ACTION Guus to contribute a pattern on qualified-cardinality restriction for May 27th telecon 14:09:26 continue 14:09:30 ACTION Deborah to write a pattern on closing roles by June 10th telecon 14:09:36 continue 14:09:38 ACTION Jeremey to check with Jos if he is participating in the XSCH TF 14:09:50 done; Jos intends to participate 14:09:54 ACTION Ralph to add completed and "under consideration" TFs to the description on the web page (http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/#Tasks) 14:10:00 continue 14:10:03 ACTION Ralph to talk with the chair of the XML Schema WG to invite them to join the XSCH TF 14:10:08 continue 14:10:12 ACTION Ralph and Jeremy to update XSCH TF description 14:10:36 Jeremy: there is an update but another update is needed 14:10:41 continue 14:10:46 ACTION Aldo to forward comments from the WN group to the list 14:10:56 continue 14:11:04 ACTION Aldo to review the progress in the WN TF at the next telecon (May 13th) 14:11:22 ACTION Aldo to forward comments from the WN group to the list 14:11:23 done 14:11:33 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Apr/0217.html 14:11:55 ACTION Aldo to review the progress in the WN TF at the next telecon (May 13th) 14:11:55 ACTION Aldo to discuss a plan for the May 27th discussion on WN at the next telecon (May 13th) 14:12:04 withdraw both actions 14:12:33 ACTION Alistair, using the SKOS note as a strawman, to discuss how to adapt it to a WG note 14:12:47 related: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Apr/0209.html 14:13:02 action continued 14:13:18 Alistair: reviewed some papers, will post a message in the next week 14:13:35 ... expect to post a 2-part note: descriptions of schema and how to use it, and notes from Amsterdam groups 14:13:47 ACTION DanBri to propose a short-term paln for the THES TF 14:13:54 continue 14:13:59 ACTION DanBri to give access to TF homepage to Alistair 14:14:09 continue 14:14:12 ACTION Guus read bernard's e-mail with draft TMAP msg 14:14:18 continue 14:14:26 ACTION Evan to report on the status of the UML profile for ontologies in June 14:14:36 continue 14:14:46 won't be done until June 14:14:50 ACTION Jim report back on short-term plan for World Task Force. 14:14:55 done: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004May/0057.html 14:15:35 ACTION Libby and Brian propose repository for apps based on test-repository 14:15:51 done? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004May/0048.html 14:16:10 continue 14:16:15 ACTION Guus set up link from SWBP home to page to "tips and tricks" 14:16:20 continue 14:16:28 ACTION Aldo organize 30 min TF discussion on WNET for next telecon. 14:16:37 done: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004May/0075.html 14:17:05 Topic: Task Force report 14:17:14 OEP - Ontology Engineering and Patterns 14:17:49 Natasha: close-to-final draft of classes-as-values posted yesterday 14:18:12 q+ to suggest first publication with explicit plan for second 14:18:12 ... n-ary relations draft is under discussion, will probably be revised next week 14:18:19 jjc, you wanted to suggest first publication with explicit plan for second 14:18:43 Jeremy: felt that the proposed publication was a little premature, but also value in publishing early and often 14:18:55 ... haven't yet reached consensus on n-ary draft 14:19:23 ... would like first publication to give an explicit view to a second publication 14:20:13 ... level of consensus ought to be documented, but does not have to be complete 14:22:01 Bernard: concerning public review, can we include testimonials or other real-world comments about applications? 14:22:22 ... I have two real-world applications where classes as values are critical 14:22:32 q+ to suggest putting it in W3C format 14:22:51 jjc, you wanted to suggest putting it in W3C format 14:23:41 ACTION: Ralph provide W3C style pointers to Natasha 14:25:20 THES - Porting Thesaurii to RDF and OWL 14:25:36 (no representative) 14:25:54 WordNET 14:26:08 (no representative) 14:26:13 XSCH - XML Schema Datatypes 14:26:27 WRLD - World View 14:26:50 Jeremy: I will get an HP response to Jim's message 14:27:22 ... HP is still considering this issue 14:27:51 DavidN: at the moment I sort-of agree with Jim, but it is important that WRLD get going at some point 14:27:59 WRLD - World View 14:27:59 Coordinator: Jim Hendler REGRETS 14:27:59 XSCH - XML Schema Datatypes 14:28:31 Jeremy: since last meeting we have a fairly good membership from the WG 14:28:42 ... Pat Hayes and Jos are intending to participate 14:29:03 ... interaction with the XML Schema WG is main issue 14:29:10 [Ralph confesses to fumbling that ball] 14:34:27 -Evan_Wallace 14:34:29 -Alan 14:34:30 -NickG 14:34:31 -Jeremy 14:34:32 -DavidN 14:34:32 -Natasha_Noy 14:34:33 -Bernard_Vatant 14:34:34 -GaryNG 14:34:35 next meeting: 27 May, 1800Z 14:34:35 -Alistair 14:34:39 adjourned 14:34:40 davidn has left #swbp 14:34:45 -Ralph 14:34:51 SW_BPD()10:00AM has ended 14:34:52 Attendees were +1.760.812.aaaa, NickG, Ralph, Alistair, DavidN, GaryNG, Jeremy, Evan_Wallace, Natasha_Noy, Alan, Bernard_Vatant 14:39:29 rrsagent, bye 14:39:29 I see 1 open action item: 14:39:29 ACTION: Ralph provide W3C style pointers to Natasha [1] 14:39:29 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/05/13-swbp-irc#T14-23-41