14:05:02 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag
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14:05:37 <Zakim> +??P40
14:05:43 <Zakim> +??P41
14:05:51 <sh1m> Zakim, who is on the phone?
14:05:53 <Zakim> +Wendy
14:05:54 <ben> zakim, ??P40 is Ben
14:05:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], ??P20, Don_Evans, ??P22, ??P40, ??P41, Wendy (muted)
14:05:59 <Zakim> +Ben; got it
14:06:19 <wendy> zakim, unmute wendy
14:06:19 <Zakim> Wendy was not muted, wendy
14:06:48 <JimT> JimT has joined #wai-wcag
14:06:51 <sh1m> Zakim, ??41 is Tom
14:06:51 <Zakim> sorry, sh1m, I do not recognize a party named '??41'
14:07:00 <sh1m> Zakim, ??P41 is Tom
14:07:00 <Zakim> +Tom; got it
14:07:04 <sh1m> Zakim, I am Tom
14:07:06 <Zakim> ok, sh1m, I now associate you with Tom
14:07:16 <wendy> zakim, who's on the phone?
14:07:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], ??P20, Don_Evans, ??P22, Ben, Tom, Wendy
14:07:29 <wendy> zakim, ??P20 may be Chris_Ridpath
14:07:29 <Zakim> +Chris_Ridpath?; got it
14:07:37 <wendy> zakim, ??P22 may be Dave_MacDonald
14:07:37 <Zakim> +Dave_MacDonald?; got it
14:07:40 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
14:08:13 <wendy> test matrix
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14:08:59 <wendy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/att-0667/draft_test_matrix_v2.html
14:09:08 <MichaelC> zakim, who's on the phone?
14:09:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jim_Thatcher, [Microsoft], Chris_Ridpath?, Don_Evans, Dave_MacDonald?, Ben, Tom (muted), Wendy, Michael_Cooper
14:09:47 <wendy> criteria for deciding p1, p2, or p3?
14:10:05 <wendy> percentage of use in the world?
14:12:37 <wendy> window-eyes not on the list
14:13:03 <wendy> home page reader should be browser
14:13:11 <wendy> (window-eyes is on the list, just far off to the right)
14:23:35 <wendy> action: michael send message to IG to ask about assistive technologies in other languages (info for test matrix)
14:30:20 <wendy> jenae is recording edits to make to the test matrix
14:37:44 <wendy> http://w3m.sourceforge.net/
14:46:04 <wendy> mac browsers: http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/browser_chart/index_mac.html
14:49:47 <JimT> AT on Linux/UNIX http://www.tracecenter.org/linux/current.html
14:58:26 <Zakim> -Jim_Thatcher
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14:59:54 <Zakim> -Wendy
15:01:09 <Zakim> +Wendy
15:04:12 <ben> 1.4.1 and 2.2.2 - animated content - not clear which points belong in which section
15:05:02 <ben> looking for stratgies for splitting up the ideas or cross-referencing
15:05:23 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
15:05:31 <ben> zakim, who's making noise?
15:05:42 <Zakim> ben, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Wendy (77%), Ben (9%), Tom (37%)
15:06:00 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:06:16 <ben> zakim, [Microsoft] is Jenae
15:06:16 <Zakim> +Jenae; got it
15:09:08 <ben> 2.4.2 - use of metadata to describe collections - move to RDF techniques?
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15:13:10 <wendy> 1.4.1. and 2.2.2 - redundant?
15:13:11 <wendy> 2.4.2 - "document collections"
15:13:11 <wendy> carried over from core?
15:13:13 <wendy> nothing in guideline 2.4 about document collections - providing metadata to navigate between pages. higher-level issue?
15:14:15 <wendy> ties back to level 2 #2 (for 2.4)
15:14:31 <wendy> yes - have something generic in gateway. could have techs in html and rdf (at min)
15:14:52 <wendy> 2.5.1 Error handling
15:15:21 <wendy> also ref uaag
15:16:08 <wendy> user-centered design refs
15:16:14 <wendy> annotated refs 
15:17:09 <wendy> 2.1 and 2.2 - be better to break up into separate techniques (instead of a list). useful to have a guideline and underneath, a general intro before going into techniques?
15:19:29 <wendy> break up guidelines into tasks or success criteria?
15:20:11 <wendy> action: tom send list of issues and questions to list (about gateway techs) to get discussion of latest draft.
15:21:13 <wendy> discuss gateway techs next week
15:21:44 <wendy> action: wendy create "plan to publish gateway to TR" (aiming to publish end of april) - prioritize issues from tom, set milestones
15:21:48 <wendy> techs submission form
15:23:36 <wendy> public-wcag2-techs
15:27:40 <wendy> action: wac check with rigo re: ipr of tech submission form.
15:28:14 <ben> public archive - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/
15:32:24 <wendy> action: chris will add techniques submissions to bugzilla
15:33:02 <wendy> action: ben and chris talk about adding bugs to bugzilla
15:36:08 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
15:36:09 <Zakim> -Tom
15:36:10 <Zakim> -Chris_Ridpath?
15:36:10 <Zakim> -Wendy
15:36:11 <Zakim> -Ben
15:36:11 <Zakim> -Jenae
15:36:13 <Zakim> -Don_Evans
15:36:35 <Zakim> -Dave_MacDonald?
15:36:36 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG(techniques)10:00AM has ended
15:36:37 <Zakim> Attendees were Jim_Thatcher, Don_Evans, Wendy, Ben, Tom, Chris_Ridpath?, Dave_MacDonald?, Michael_Cooper, Jenae
15:36:58 <wendy> RRSAgent, make log world-visible
15:37:03 <wendy> RRSAgent, bye
15:37:03 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items:
15:37:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: michael send message to IG to ask about assistive technologies in other languages (info for test matrix) [1]
15:37:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T14-23-35
15:37:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: tom send list of issues and questions to list (about gateway techs) to get discussion of latest draft. [2]
15:37:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-20-11
15:37:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: wendy create "plan to publish gateway to TR" (aiming to publish end of april) - prioritize issues from tom, set milestones [3]
15:37:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-21-44
15:37:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: wac check with rigo re: ipr of tech submission form. [4]
15:37:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-27-40
15:37:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: chris will add techniques submissions to bugzilla [5]
15:37:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-32-24
15:37:03 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ben and chris talk about adding bugs to bugzilla [6]
15:37:03 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/04/07-wai-wcag-irc#T15-33-02