21:05:16 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag
21:05:31 <bengt> that hurt, big ping with message :)
21:05:37 <Zakim> +??P7
21:05:53 <wendy> ben - are you P7?
21:05:57 <rellero> zakim, ??P7 is rellero
21:05:57 <Zakim> +rellero; got it
21:06:13 <rellero> zakim, mute me
21:06:13 <Zakim> rellero should now be muted
21:06:37 <Zakim> +Paul_Bohman
21:10:50 <wendy> action: wac add doyle, andi to wcag wg database for registration
21:12:06 <wendy> zakim, who's on the phone?
21:12:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Loretta_Guarino_Reid, [Microsoft], Dave_MacDonald, John_Slatin, Doyle, Bengt_Farre (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, rellero (muted), Paul_Bohman
21:12:09 <Zakim> John_Slatin has Wendy
21:13:03 <Zakim> +??P13
21:13:23 <wendy> zakim, ??P13 is Gregg_and_Ben
21:13:23 <Zakim> +Gregg_and_Ben; got it
21:15:13 <wendy> ===
21:15:24 <wendy> collect ideas agenda items for f2f, then prioritize
21:15:33 <wendy> conformance
21:15:48 <wendy> normativeness of checklists
21:16:09 <wendy> how to use the document
21:16:16 <wendy> (goes along w/conformance)
21:16:25 <wendy> scoping (subset of conformance)
21:16:55 <wendy> examples - aligning them with success criteria, techniques
21:17:22 <wendy> (non-html-specific)
21:19:28 <wendy> end-to-end process for at least one guideline (or success criteria)
21:19:37 <wendy> transition from 1.0 to 2.0
21:19:48 <wendy> (map all pieces need to support it)
21:20:17 <wendy> requirements documents
21:21:24 <wendy> plan (timelines, milestones)
21:22:11 <wendy> how to chunk things and assign action items
21:22:54 <wendy> glossary
21:24:28 <wendy> 3.1 - specific to english language? does it belong there or elsewhere (gateway? appendix?)
21:25:41 <wendy> discussion of JIS guidelines, updates, continue discussion from November
21:26:36 <doyle> Wendy, what does JIS stand for?  Sorry!
21:27:04 <wendy> JISC-Japanese Industrial Standards Committee
21:27:12 <doyle> Thanks
21:27:14 <wendy> http://www.jisc.go.jp/eng/
21:28:07 <wendy> ian's comments - report on (relation to xag)
21:28:57 <wendy> (to be posted to list this week)
21:29:16 <wendy> WCAG 1.0 revision and errata
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21:29:37 <rellero> Hi
21:29:40 <Roberto_Scano> hi
21:30:00 <Roberto_Scano> only IRC this evening
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21:32:11 <Zakim> + +1.202.647.aaaa
21:32:33 <Roberto_Scano> zakim, list conferences
21:32:33 <Zakim> I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM, SVG_WG()4:00PM active and no others scheduled
21:32:43 <Roberto_Scano> zakim, this is WAI_WCAG()
21:32:43 <Zakim> Roberto_Scano, this was already WAI_WCAG()4:00PM
21:32:44 <Zakim> ok, Roberto_Scano; that matches WAI_WCAG()4:00PM
21:32:54 <Roberto_Scano> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:32:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Loretta_Guarino_Reid, [Microsoft], Dave_MacDonald, John_Slatin, Doyle, Bengt_Farre (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, rellero (muted), Paul_Bohman, Gregg_and_Ben,
21:32:57 <Zakim> ... +1.202.647.aaaa
21:32:58 <Zakim> John_Slatin has Wendy
21:33:02 <wendy> if we were to do one thing with wcag 1.0: republish pdfs. loretta willing to help.
21:33:18 <wendy> let's do that - as a minimum.
21:34:42 <Zakim> +??P16
21:34:52 <wendy> action: loretta and wendy republish WCAG 1.0 PDFs (meet at csun? friday?)
21:34:53 <Roberto_Scano> zakim, +??P16 is Roberto_Scano
21:34:53 <Zakim> sorry, Roberto_Scano, I do not recognize a party named '+??P16'
21:35:05 <Roberto_Scano> zakim, ??P16 is Roberto_Scano
21:35:05 <Zakim> +Roberto_Scano; got it
21:35:11 <Roberto_Scano> zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
21:35:11 <Zakim> ok, Roberto_Scano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
21:35:12 <wendy> zakim, who's on the phone?
21:35:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see Loretta_Guarino_Reid, [Microsoft], Dave_MacDonald, John_Slatin, Doyle, Bengt_Farre (muted), Andi_Snow_Weaver, rellero (muted), Paul_Bohman, Gregg_and_Ben,
21:35:15 <Zakim> ... +1.202.647.aaaa, Roberto_Scano
21:35:16 <Zakim> John_Slatin has Wendy
21:35:29 <wendy> zakim, +1.202.647.aaaa is Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:35:29 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
21:35:57 <wendy> talking with WAI IG about transition WCAG 1.0 to 2.0
21:36:39 <wendy> conformance
21:38:40 <wendy> transition support materials:
21:38:49 <wendy> 1. mapping
21:38:50 <wendy> 2. faq
21:39:08 <wendy> 3. guidelines for migration (similar to html 4.01 to xhtml 1.0 guidelines in xhtml 1.0)
21:39:20 <wendy> gather questions for faq from WAI IG discussion.
21:39:53 <wendy> should have series of "diff docs" - diffs between JIS, 508, etc?  report differences.
21:40:24 <wendy> these could be submitted to the group via WG participants
21:40:26 <Roberto_Scano> one doc for every "standard"? humm....
21:41:01 <wendy> others: ibm guidelines.  where are we different? how are we different? why?
21:41:15 <wendy> state guidelines?
21:41:53 <Roberto_Scano> I think that is best that the point of reference must be WCAG: so for eg. IBM guidelines checkpoint refer to WCAG but not WCAG refer to IBM checkpoint
21:42:19 <rellero> I agree
21:42:34 <Roberto_Scano> WCAG are "the guidelines" :)
21:45:05 <Roberto_Scano> WCAG Policy Matrix?
21:49:49 <wendy> (prioritizing agenda items for f2f)
21:50:30 <Roberto_Scano> thank u wendy... now i understand :)
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22:09:33 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
22:09:34 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:09:34 <Zakim> -Paul_Bohman
22:09:34 <bengt> bye bye
22:09:34 <rellero> Bye
22:09:35 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:09:35 <Zakim> -Gregg_and_Ben
22:09:36 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
22:09:36 <Zakim> -John_Slatin
22:09:38 <Zakim> -Doyle
22:09:40 <Zakim> -Dave_MacDonald
22:09:42 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
22:09:44 <Zakim> -Roberto_Scano
22:09:57 <Zakim> -rellero
22:09:58 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
22:09:59 <Zakim> Attendees were Loretta_Guarino_Reid, [Microsoft], Dave_MacDonald, Bengt_Farre, Doyle, Wendy, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Gregg_and_Ben?, rellero, Paul_Bohman, Gregg_and_Ben, Roberto_Scano,
22:10:01 <Zakim> ... Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:10:48 <wendy> zakim, bye
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22:10:55 <wendy> RRSAgent, make log world-visible
22:11:02 <wendy> RRSAgent, bye
22:11:02 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items:
22:11:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: wac add doyle, andi to wcag wg database for registration [1]
22:11:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/03/11-wai-wcag-irc#T21-10-50
22:11:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: loretta and wendy republish WCAG 1.0 PDFs (meet at csun? friday?) [2]
22:11:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2004/03/11-wai-wcag-irc#T21-34-52
22:11:05 <Roberto_Scano> good night to all... and happy F2F :)