IRC log of rdfcore on 2003-12-05
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- ericm has changed the topic to: rdfcore dec 5 telecon
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- SW_RDFCore()10:00AM has now started
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- +DanC
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- Zakim, this is RDF
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- ok, DanC
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- +??P18
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- +FrankM
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- -??P18
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- +??P18
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- +DanC
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- +DanBri
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- +??P21
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- -DanC
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- +Mike_Dean
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- +DanC
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- -DanBri
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- agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Dec/0006.html
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- zakim, dial emiller-bos
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- ok, ericm; the call is being made
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- +Emiller
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- Zakim,who's on the call?
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- Zakim, who's on the call?
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- On the phone I see ??P18, FrankM, DanC, ??P21, Mike_Dean, Emiller
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- +??P20
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- Zakim, ??P20 is danbri
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- +danbri; got it
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Dec/0006.html
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- Zakim, ??P21 is jjc
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- +jjc; got it
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- Zakim, ??P18 is ilrt
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- +ilrt; got it
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- 1. Admin
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- - scribe
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- - roll call
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- - approve minutes of the previous meeting
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Nov/0063.html
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- 2. Update from team on PR
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- 3. mime-type registration
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- 4. Postponed issues: advice to the CG on what to do about them.
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- Zakim, who's on the call?
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- On the phone I see ilrt, FrankM, DanC, jjc, Mike_Dean, Emiller, danbri
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- Received on
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- roll call
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- Zakim, ilrt has bwm, jang, daveb
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- +bwm, jang, daveb; got it
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Nov/0063.html
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- DanC: minutes comment
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- Zakim, mute danbri
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- danbri should now be muted
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- zakim, mute danbri
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- danbri was already muted, ericm
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- Zakim, who's talking
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- I don't understand 'who's talking', jjc
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- Zakim, who's speaking
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- I don't understand 'who's speaking', jjc
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- Zakim, who's speaking?
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- jjc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ilrt (15%), FrankM (39%)
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- on minutes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Nov/0065.html
- 15:08:25 [DaveB-scr]
- amendments are the last mod dates and size sin 0065
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- of th docs to publish
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- +GrahamKlyne
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- -GrahamKlyne
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- +GrahamKlyne
- 15:09:45 [DaveB-scr]
- jang: dated zip files are made for each tetst cases doc
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- bwm: happy with amendment 0065?
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- seconded; danc
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- against: not
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- ... none
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- minutes of 2003-11-07 approved
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- -danbri
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- item 2 - discuss PR request status with the team
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- ilrt += danbri
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- congrats were given to having lots of detailed test cases
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- summary or rdf core test results http://www.w3.org/2003/11/results/rdf-core-tests
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- frankm points to http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-primer-20030117/Overview.html
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- dec 5
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- Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:03:21 GMT
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- Content-Length: 425004
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- md5sum 4ec3fa06098da0e9821cc96beea77328
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- RRSAgent, pointer?
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- See http://www.w3.org/2003/12/05-rdfcore-irc#T15-19-32
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- primer... http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-primer-20030117/Overview.html
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- -Mike_Dean
- 15:26:19 [danbri_dna]
- q+ to report RDFS modifications outstanding (but agreed in WG prior to PR req decision), option (I expect likely won't) to make minor wording tweaks per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003OctDec/0124.html plus change range of rdf:predicate to be rdfs:Resource per WG decision.
- 15:27:08 [DanC]
- I get: cvs update: nothing known about WD-rdf-primer-200301117
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- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-primer-20030117/
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- ~/w3ccvs/WWW/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR$
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- then redirected to a file, local diffed
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- www/cvs.w3.org/WWW/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-primer-20030117
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- $ cvs diff -bwu -r1.22 -r1.25 Overview.html |less
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- see http://www.redland.opensource.ac.uk/tmp/rdfcore.txt
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- cvs co -D'Wed, 05 Nov 2003 02:27:20 GMT' -p WWW/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-primer-20030117/Overview.html > some file
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- ---
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- primer, danC to add:
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- action: brian to review latest changes to primer are ok.
- 15:35:29 [danbri_dna]
- (I just made the rdf:predicate changes above to RDFS.)
- 15:36:15 [DaveB-scr]
- syntax - changes outlined 1) german spelling 2) changelog pointers in changelog
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- daveb has license to make changes above
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- shema -
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- schema
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- danbri - changes outstanding, some wording fixes (editorial advisory) - not needed to make them
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- 2nd was to be consistent with range of rdf:predicate consist with semantics - want to make that change
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- ... think that is ready to go now in the CVS version
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- ----------------------------
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- revision 1.46
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- date: 2003/12/05 15:33:30; author: danbri; state: Exp; lines: +3 -3
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- Range of rdf:predicate is rdfs:Resource, per change agreed by WG in
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Nov/0063.html
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- -
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- danbri: also changed the xml file in the dir - rdfs schema file
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- revision 1.46
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- date: 2003/12/05 15:33:30; author: danbri; state: Exp; lines: +3 -3
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- golden
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- bwm: ack
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- semantics
- 15:39:32 [danbri_dna]
- I'm going to double-check these over weekend, but I believe RDFS is done.
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- primer - above
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- test cases
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- jang: an explicit marker added for simple entailment, added with auth last time
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- ... updates to table
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- daveb: missing ' or "
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- ... in ntriples
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- 7Nov meeting corresponds to test cvs 1.64
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- 1.68 ok?
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- bwm: o
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- k
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- ok
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- concepts
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- as of 7Nov wG meeting we were at revision 1.55
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- date: 2003/10/07 14:19:58;
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- "PR changes made." 1.56 2003/11/15 15:02:04
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- "Change prev version link" 1.57 2003/11/15 15:06:05
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- bwm: good
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- schema: done. syntax: epsilon. test: epsilon. concepts: done primer: done. semantics: pat-state.
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- q+ to ask whether LBase gets republished too
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- q?
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- schema: done. syntax: epsilon. test: epsilon. concepts: done primer: done pending bwm review. semantics: pat-state.
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- Test case todo: [[
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- From: Carlos Viegas Dam&sio <cd@di.fct.unl.pt>
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- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:29:02 +0100
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- X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/01ba01c39267$e6197260$dc9e17c3@pccd
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- http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-rdf-testcases-20031010/#datatypeString
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- fix to:
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- datatypeString ::= '"' string '"' '^^' uriref
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- ]]
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- < <td><a href="#string">string</a> '^^' <a
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- ---
- 15:47:33 [DaveB-scr]
- > <td>'"' <a href="#string">string</a> '"' '^^' <a
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- jcarroll: most of changes were the changelog
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- 3 mime type
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- gk: registriation is in a fine state
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- just a condition of timing
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- ... sufficiently stable to point at, reasonable to request reg publication
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- but seen a doc says we should wait to REC
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- gk...but wouldn't favour that
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- ack danc
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- DanC, you wanted to think out loud
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- danc: current state, cites concepts
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- daveb: & syntax
- 15:50:25 [DanC]
- no, not current...
- 15:50:30 [DanC]
- I'm asking about the terminal state
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- gk: mime type reg will cite w3c doc
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- current http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-swartz-rdfcore-rdfxml-mediatype-03
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- gk: iana reg will cite published RFC
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- that RFC will cite the w3c doc
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- danc: & w3c doc will cite rfc?
- 15:51:29 [dajobe_]
- gk: not sure
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- gk: no formal last call but an IESG approved pub
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- gk: currently aiming for informational rfc
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- daveb: points to syntax, concepts and model theory
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- ... undated tr urls
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- gk: suggests to pick up after any PR publication of docs
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- general agreement
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- q?
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- AOB bwm: TAG last call on arch doc soon, looking for volunteers
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- item 4 postponed issues
- 15:55:41 [danbri_dna]
- also AOB+, date of next meeting?
- 15:57:01 [dajobe_]
- bwm suggest people looking at postponed issues http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#futures
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- and discuss via email
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- danbri: short & long term
- 15:57:19 [DanC]
- Issues Postponed till a future Version of RDF http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#futures
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- donm? & afterwards, how often
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- after get to REC that is
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- danbri/bwm: unavail next week
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- em: no urgency on feedback
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- bwm: take to email
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- bwm: maybe one more meeting, possibly not till next year
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- meeting closed
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- ---
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- thanks.
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- -Emiller
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- -DanC
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- -jjc
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- -FrankM
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- -ilrt
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- -GrahamKlyne
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