T16-57-34
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:57:34Z
description: RRSAgent has joined #ietf
creator: Person
  nick: RRSAgent

T16-58-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:58:11Z
description: +Michael_Mealing
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T16-58-26
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:58:26Z
description: Ralph has joined #ietf
creator: Person
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T16-58-34
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:58:34Z
description: ok, how does Zakim know that?
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T16-58-43
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:58:43Z
description: caller-id
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T16-58-54
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:58:54Z
description: which is odd since it got my last name wrong....
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T16-59-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:59:11Z
description: somebody made the binding between your number and your name in a previous telcon
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T16-59-21
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:59:21Z
description: ahhh...
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T16-59-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:59:32Z
description: you can correct the spelling ala: Zakim, Michael is really _right spelling_
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T16-59-46
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:59:46Z
description: Zakim, Michael is really Michael Mealling
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T16-59-46-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:59:46Z
description: I don't understand 'Michael is really Michael Mealling', MikeM
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T16-59-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T16:59:53Z
description: no spaces
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-00-08
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:00:08Z
description: Zakim, Michael is really Michael_Mealling
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T17-00-08-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:00:08Z
description: +Michael_Mealling; got it
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-00-26
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:00:26Z
description: +DanC
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-03-19
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:03:19Z
description: Zakim, mute me
creator: Person
  nick: tim-lex

T17-03-19-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:03:19Z
description: sorry, tim-lex, I do not see a party named 'tim-lex'
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-03-27
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:03:27Z
description: Zakim, mute me
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-03-27-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:03:27Z
description: TimBL should now be muted
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-04-55
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:04:55Z
description: porr no is odd
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-07-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:07:32Z
description: typing w knuckles -- grea sandwich
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-08-16
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:08:16Z
description: +Leslie_Daigle
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-09-09
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:09:09Z
description: Zakim, who is on the phone?
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-09-09-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:09:09Z
description: On the phone I see Ted_Hardy, TimBL (muted), Michael_Mealling, DanC, Leslie_Daigle
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-09-45
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:09:45Z
description: leslie has joined #ietf
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-09-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:09:47Z
description: I'm expecting Martin Duerst, Michael Sperberg-McQueen
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-09-50
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:09:50Z
description: Zakim, who is on the phone?
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-09-50-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:09:50Z
description: On the phone I see Ted_Hardy, TimBL (muted), Michael_Mealling, DanC, Leslie_Daigle
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-10-16
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:10:16Z
description: hardie has joined #ietf
creator: Person
  nick: hardie

T17-10-24
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:10:24Z
description: MSM has joined #ietf
creator: Person
  nick: MSM

T17-10-37
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:10:37Z
description: +Amy
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-10-40
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:10:40Z
description: Howhowdy; just shifted to an outside account.
creator: Person
  nick: hardie

T17-10-42
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:10:42Z
description: -Amy
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-11-43
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:11:43Z
description: +Michael
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-12-02
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:12:02Z
description: agenda + review of action
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-12-08
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:12:08Z
description: agenda + WebDAV/DASL
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-12-18
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:12:18Z
description: agenda + input to URI CG
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-12-38
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:12:38Z
description: agenda + IANA registry referencing
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-12-42
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:12:42Z
description: agenda + next meeting
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-12-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:12:47Z
description: +??P27
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-13-05
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:05Z
description: Extracted action items from last meeting:
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-13-05-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:05Z
description: [**1] Ted Hardie -- set up an http archive of w3c-policy@apps.ietf.org readable by the subscribers
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-13-05-2
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:05Z
description: [**2] Ted Hardie -- estimate last call on draft-freed-mime-p4-*.
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-13-05-3
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:05Z
description: [**3] Ted Hardie -- enquire with IESG members such as Harald about what's expected in a new smil draft, and whether the author has been notified.
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-13-05-4
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:05Z
description: [**4] Leslie Daigle -- update this forum on next steps [for draft-iab-char-rep]
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-13-07
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:07Z
description: [**5] Michael Mealling -- raise the "uri maintenance team" idea in the W3C URI CG.
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-13-42
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:42Z
description: Zakim, who is on the phone?
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-13-42-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:42Z
description: On the phone I see Ted_Hardy, TimBL (muted), Michael_Mealling, DanC, Leslie_Daigle, Michael, MartinD
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-13-44
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:44Z
description: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3c-ietf-coord/2003Oct/0004.html for W3C team
creator: Person
  nick: timbl
relation: 0004.html

T17-13-50
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:50Z
description: is Leslie's message.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-13-58
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:58Z
description: Zakim, take up item 1
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-13-58-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:13:58Z
description: agendum 1. "review of action" taken up [from DanC]
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-14-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:14:47Z
description: Zakim, unmute me
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-14-47-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:14:47Z
description: TimBL should no longer be muted
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-15-09
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:15:09Z
description: _________________________________
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-15-14
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:15:14Z
description: Action items
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-15-40
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:15:40Z
description: Ted's action hsn't ahppned because apps.ietf.org is in transision. ned free has health leave
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-16-04
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:16:04Z
description: **2 ongoing
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-16-05
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:16:05Z
description: -Ted_Hardy
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-16-28
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:16:28Z
description: danC: Can we add MIME typed to the agenda?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-16-37
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:16:37Z
description: various: consider it part of AIANA ite,m
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-17-26
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:17:26Z
description: Leslie: It is not clear to me when the last call ends
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-17-31
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:17:31Z
description: 2-4 qweeks?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-18-02
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:18:02Z
description: draft-freed-mime-p4-*.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-18-25
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:18:25Z
description: MikeM: I was not aware of existence of this draft.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-18-36
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:18:36Z
description: Michael SMcQ - I was but haven't teda it
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-18-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:18:53Z
description: [ted rejoind conferenced in ny Leslie, from outside due to fire alarm]
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-19-06
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:19:06Z
description: 2003-10-27 is last call deadline
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-19-19
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:19:19Z
description: In other words befroe Minneapolis IETF.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-19-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:19:32Z
description: Whether IESG gets to look at it depnds on Ned Freed'ds progress.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-19-37
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:19:37Z
description: ACTION ITME #3
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-19-43
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:19:43Z
description: ITEM #3
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-20-06
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:20:06Z
description: Ted: Harald sent email on that which resolved question
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-20-16
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:20:16Z
description: DanC: PH sent ,ail sayingit was not resolved
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-21-34
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:34Z
description: Ted's office number: +1 408 423 0307
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-21-42
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:42Z
description: Tim: Issue is SMIL ___?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-21-48
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:48Z
description: [[
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-21-49
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:49Z
description: From: Philipp Hoschka <ph@w3.org>
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-21-49-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:49Z
description: To: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-21-49-2
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:49Z
description: Cc: w3c-policy@apps.ietf.org
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-21-49-3
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:49Z
description: Subject: SMIL media type change request (was: Re: minutes 17Jun for review
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-21-49-4
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:49Z
description: Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 00:13:30 +0200
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-21-50
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:50Z
description: Martin Mime type registrartion?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-21-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:21:53Z
description: ]
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-23-00
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:23:00Z
description: ACTION DanC: get ted's office number to PH
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-23-06
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:23:06Z
description: ACTION DanC get Ted's phone # to PH
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-23-12
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:23:12Z
description: ACTION ITEM #4
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-23-34
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:23:34Z
description: (action #3 is re http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3c-ietf-coord/2003Jul/0000.html)
creator: Person
  nick: timbl
relation: 0000.html

T17-23-43
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:23:43Z
description: Martin: I wanted top talk about this.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-24-27
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:24:27Z
description: ... i wanto know whether that doc is on thcritical parth for the new ____
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-24-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:24:32Z
description: IRI draft
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-24-36
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:24:36Z
description: Leslie: yes, there are IMHO
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-25-10
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:25:10Z
description: I spoke with Michelle a month ago, and we can agree that there were things that were not undersood in a largercontext [sic - sribe is not following]
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-25-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:25:32Z
description: Martin: Should we just move aheda with teh IRI draft?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-25-50
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:25:50Z
description: Leslie; too many directions at once.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-26-19
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:26:19Z
description: ...., I realize that IRI can't wait for resource poblems elsewhere.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-26-31
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:26:31Z
description: Ted: Internationalizing email -- rqeuest from J Klenson for a BOF.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-26-48
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:26:48Z
description: Klensin?
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-26-49
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:26:49Z
description: Normally Ned would handle the BOF request,but Ned still out of action.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-27-00
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:27:00Z
description: We do notknow whether Ned will be in Minniapolis.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-27-12
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:27:12Z
description: Some discussions around IRI connected with that would b good.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-27-25
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:27:25Z
description: Email folks don't understand issues which will ahpepend with mailto:
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-27-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:27:35Z
description: Dan -- yes, Klensin
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-27-37
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:27:37Z
description: yes, Klensin. e.g. http://forum.icann.org/cctld/38BD531A00000004.html
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: 38BD531A00000004.html

T17-27-58
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:27:58Z
description: If both URI and email mke transitions, it would be nice if they could remnain compatible though the mailto: link
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-28-03
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:28:03Z
description: -ted
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-28-29
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:28:29Z
description: Might need an update to deal with bi-di - martin
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-28-33
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:28:33Z
description: (what might?)
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-28-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:28:35Z
description: @@
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-29-50
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:29:50Z
description: Action ietm #5: [**5] Michael Mealling -- raise the "uri maintenance team" idea in the W3C URI CG.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-30-05
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:05Z
description: continues. Atleast a link from the web page exists, more effort necessary.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-30-08
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:08Z
description: +Ted_Hardy
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-30-15
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:15Z
description: See agenda item 4 - inout to URI CG
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-30-24
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:24Z
description: agenda?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-30-34
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:34Z
description: Zakim, close item 1
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-30-34-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:34Z
description: agendum 1 closed
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-30-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:35Z
description: I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-30-36
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:36Z
description: 2. WebDAV/DASL [from DanC]
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-30-38
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:38Z
description: Zakim, next item
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-30-38-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:38Z
description: agendum 2. "WebDAV/DASL" taken up [from DanC]
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-30-59
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:30:59Z
description: Ted: Question - take DASL forard? This is abscially XML search.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-31-16
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:31:16Z
description: Is there work on XML search in W3C? What sort of coordination needed?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-31-29
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:31:29Z
description: MSM: What do you mean by XML search?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-31-58
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:31:58Z
description: ted: DASl was a sepate group for searching and locating fo the metadata in DAV.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-32-24
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:32:24Z
description: It was separate. It is constructed in XML namespaces and elements.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-32-46
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:32:46Z
description: Tim: So it is equiavalent to the propblem of searching an XML document?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-33-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:33:11Z
description: ted: Evry resource is part of a collection - how does on scope the search to collections ro groups of collections.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-33-23
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:33:23Z
description: There is the collection structure which is not expressed in XML relationships themselves.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-33-36
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:33:36Z
description: M<artin: What about XML Query?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-33-45
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:33:45Z
description: ... we are just in that discussion.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-34-12
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:34:12Z
description: XML query is targetted at searching single documents but also collections of them, butmaybe notwith the DAV-like structure.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-34-44
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:34:44Z
description: Ted: Would XML-query be the right place to establish the relationship?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-35-03
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:35:03Z
description: Martin: The revisiosn of xpatyh happend withing a group XQ and XSLT working closely together.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-35-12
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:35:12Z
description: sure... folks have been popping in and out with regularity
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T17-35-19
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:35:19Z
description: Tim: Paul Cotton contact, as chair of XQ?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-35-43
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:35:43Z
description: MSM: You might also want to talk to Liam Quin, whowillalso have some knowledge of DAV.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-36-05
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:36:05Z
description: TEd: Jim Whitehead is a co-chair.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-36-16
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:36:16Z
description: Lias desaut (sp?) arethe chairs.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-36-22
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:36:22Z
description: Lisa Dusseault
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T17-36-49
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:36:49Z
description: ACTION Ted: Put cochairs in touch with Liam and Paul.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-36-58
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:36:58Z
description: Lisa Dusseault
creator: Person
  nick: hardie

T17-37-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:37:11Z
description: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2003Oct/0005.html
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: 0005.html

T17-37-21
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:37:21Z
description: DanC: MSM, does the XQ working group consider protocols for XQ iover the wire? I think Whitehead is lookoing at that.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-38-00
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:38:00Z
description: ... in response to ted's message I discussed this with [various] se resulting message [above linked]
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-38-41
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:38:41Z
description: "Lisa Dusseault" <lisa@xythos.com>
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-38-44
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:38:44Z
description: "Lisa Dusseault" <lisa@xythos.com>
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-38-49
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:38:49Z
description: snap
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-38-56
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:38:56Z
description: ______
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-39-06
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:39:06Z
description: Zakim, close this item
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-39-06-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:39:06Z
description: agendum 2 closed
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-39-07
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:39:07Z
description: I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-39-08
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:39:08Z
description: Zakim, take up next agenda
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-39-08-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:39:08Z
description: 3. input to URI CG [from DanC]
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-39-09
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:39:09Z
description: agendum 3. "input to URI CG" taken up [from DanC]
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-39-10
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:39:10Z
description: Zakmi, next item
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-39-57
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:39:57Z
description: Ted: Discussison on the impact of new schemes and their registration on teh existing scehmes and polices of the IETf and W3C.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-40-16
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:40:16Z
description: Do these schemes provdie possibly dangerous alternatie registration mechanisms?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-40-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:40:35Z
description: Should the URI CG be in the loop?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-41-19
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:41:19Z
description: Witthe DOI and indo: schemes specifcially, the DOI for example saw itself as an alternative registaryion system, and info: saw itself as a way of bringingin namespacxes wfor which they were not the authority.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-41-34
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:41:34Z
description: These look like attempts by bother groups to bypasss the existing polices.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-42-14
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:42:14Z
description: Question: What should the IESG do about such things?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-42-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:42:53Z
description: DanC: After the march meeting, I wrote a draft about keeping IANA registries on the web. Ned Freed picked it up - any progerss.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-43-01
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:43:01Z
description: Leslie: See next agenda item.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-43-40
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:43:40Z
description: DanC: Meanwhile, as michale said, many things are brewing,. the URI CG has not met yet, but I propose that we invite these people and tim to discuss them.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-44-38
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:44:38Z
description: DanC: For exmaple, these grouppospose info you cannot look up, which eth TAG considers a bad idea.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-44-58
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:44:58Z
description: ted; LArry is working on non-ietf trees.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-45-17
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:45:17Z
description: there is a gripe that the process in the ietf tree takes too lonmg.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-45-41
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:45:41Z
description: This is disingenuous for doi as they have never put in a regstration.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-46-03
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:46:03Z
description: this was dois as a urn.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-46-21
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:46:21Z
description: DOI hand handles have ebeen part of the URN scheme going back to 1994.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-46-36
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:46:36Z
description: Thereare falgs in the ___ algorithm for accommodating handles.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-46-48
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:46:48Z
description: DDDS
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-46-59
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:46:59Z
description: They are poposing a resolution system which replaces DNS where DNS fits in.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-47-41
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:47:41Z
description: They refused to coorperate as a URN scheme becase they wantd to be a full URI scheme.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-47-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:47:52Z
description: Ted: I could ocme to themeeting - depedns on when and where.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-48-16
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:48:16Z
description: the next two months are evil
creator: Person
  nick: hardie

T17-48-25
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:48:25Z
description: [attempts to discuss calendaring for URI CG meeting]
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-48-55
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:48:55Z
description: Ted: last 1.5 weeks of this month are bad for me
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-49-03
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:49:03Z
description: it was MM
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-49-27
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:49:27Z
description: I'll be in chicago then open for a week before the ietfv meeting
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-49-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:49:35Z
description: IETF is 9-14 november.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-49-41
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:49:41Z
description: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/IETF-58.html
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: IETF-58.html

T17-50-46
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:50:46Z
description: ACTION DanC propose a meeting with 7 days notice
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-51-06
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:06Z
description: next week , e.g. Fri, and week before IETF look less bad than others
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-51-09
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:09Z
description: Zakim, close this item
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-51-09-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:09Z
description: agendum 3 closed
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-51-10
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:10Z
description: I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-51-10-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:10Z
description: Zakim, next item
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-51-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:11Z
description: 4. IANA registry referencing [from DanC]
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-51-12
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:12Z
description: agendum 4. "IANA registry referencing" taken up [from DanC]
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T17-51-29
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:29Z
description: draft-connolly-w3c-accessible-registries
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T17-51-40
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:40Z
description: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-connolly-w3c-accessible-registries-00.txt
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: draft-connolly-w3c-accessible-registries-00.txt

T17-51-41
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:41Z
description: Two issues. IANA registration online.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-51-50
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:50Z
description: the draft has expired but has been reposted
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T17-51-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:53Z
description: and SMIL mime types
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-51-56
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:51:56Z
description: DanC:
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-52-07
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:52:07Z
description: There is a TAG issue about media types and URIs.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-52-15
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:52:15Z
description: The TAG said use URIs for importan things.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-52-26
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:52:26Z
description: So, what areth URIs for inetrnet media types?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-52-41
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:52:41Z
description: IANA has a web site, but no policy for persistence.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-52-48
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:52:48Z
description: Policy would need an internet draft.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-52-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:52:53Z
description: DanC write draft,
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-53-17
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:53:17Z
description: Ned took and action to take the issue to the IANA folks.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-54-00
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:54:00Z
description: Recently, MicahelM pointed out tht there is a BCP for using URNs.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-54-18
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:54:18Z
description: MM: Do you wnat to be anble to dereference this, or encode all theattrributes too?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-54-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:54:47Z
description: Don eastlake's draft encodes everything
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-54-57
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:54:57Z
description: DanC: refer is essential, formal spec is fragvy.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-55-01
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:55:01Z
description: gravy.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-55-02
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:55:02Z
description: so the URN with DDDS would be derferencing here?
creator: Person
  nick: hardie

T17-55-12
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:55:12Z
description: danc: no need for all the attrributes.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-57-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:57:53Z
description: Tim: You don't need to encode the attributes, because they are only read when you understand the internet conet type name
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-58-09
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:58:09Z
description: leslie: the polices may not be consistent with the iana expectations
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-58-40
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:58:40Z
description: but leavingthat aside, even assuming that is dioable, it is not clear to me what you expect a the end fo the day
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-58-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:58:52Z
description: when you dereference it.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-59-30
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:59:30Z
description: If we had a URI scheme which would dereference it ..
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-59-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:59:47Z
description: MM: Why not use DDDS?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T17-59-54
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T17:59:54Z
description: DAnC: Why is DDS better?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-00-22
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:00:22Z
description: MM: you may need to change iana.org to something different.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-00-39
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:00:39Z
description: danc: are ou claimingthat ddds provdies persistence?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-00-50
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:00:50Z
description: mm: ddds provdies persistence.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-01-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:01:11Z
description: mm: things like ianat.org change
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-01-55
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:01:55Z
description: danc: these is adderssed inthe draft
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-02-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:02:32Z
description: mm; If we go danc's way you'd never get new URI schemes.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-02-55
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:02:55Z
description: leslie ... it isnot the ietf's veiew that that is possible
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-02-59
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:02:59Z
description: danc: are you speeaking for the ietf/
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-03-02
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:03:02Z
description: ?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-03-45
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:03:45Z
description: Leslie: In the particular case of iana.org we concluded that that was a dubious thing?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-04-16
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:04:16Z
description: We can do this as an open battle, or we can do it collegially.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-04-31
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:04:31Z
description: An individal draft does have to be pushed. - mm
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-05-03
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:05:03Z
description: Ted; It has to be an IESG member if it is a BCP.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-05-37
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:05:37Z
description: Danc: anyone else feelobliged to pick up the action of ned's?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-05-49
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:05:49Z
description: leslie: If we did, it would have to be Ted.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-06-10
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:06:10Z
description: Leslie: Or you can send it to the RDF editor yourself.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-06-54
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:06:54Z
description: Ted; That is a mechanistic thing - but in this case as a proposed BCP it would boiuce back.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-07-44
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:07:44Z
description: [discussion omitted]
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-11-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:11:35Z
description: uri.arpa
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-11-46
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:11:46Z
description: iana.org
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-12-22
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:12:22Z
description: Note: the key issue is ip delegation, which is not an IETF function, as opposed to protocol parameters which are.
creator: Person
  nick: hardie

T18-12-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:12:32Z
description: iana.org is also used for ip assignment
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-13-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:13:11Z
description: http://216.239.57.104/search
creator: Person
  nick: hardie
relation: http://216.239.57.104/search

T18-13-25
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:13:25Z
description: (Geoff Huston's public plenary talk about this)
creator: Person
  nick: hardie

T18-15-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:15:52Z
description: thx for the pointer, hardie
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T18-16-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:16:11Z
description: ironic that it comes from the google cache, eh?
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T18-16-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:16:35Z
description: :)
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-16-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:16:52Z
description: oh, I see, google is providing ppt->html service, not persistence, in this case.
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T18-16-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:16:53Z
description: It coems from eth google cache only as a ppot -> standards translator
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-17-18
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:17:18Z
description: Martin: Aslso similar iana issue arrises for ____
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-18-42
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:18:42Z
description: here's the id version, too: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-iana-03.txt
creator: Person
  nick: hardie
relation: draft-iab-iana-03.txt

T18-21-49
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:21:49Z
description: [more discussion or iana.org]
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-22-21
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:22:21Z
description: Leslie: We have a philosophical difference with you as to whether a domain name should ever be used in an identifier.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-23-40
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:23:40Z
description: ________________
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-23-48
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:23:48Z
description: PArt II of IANA toopic.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-24-25
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:24:25Z
description: MSM:
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-24-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:24:47Z
description: I ahve not been aprt of these discisions so this is just from reports.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-24-51
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:24:51Z
description: Zakim, mute me
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-24-51-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:24:51Z
description: TimBL should now be muted
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-25-23
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:25:23Z
description: 404 @ http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-freed-mime-p4-00.txt sigh
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: draft-freed-mime-p4-00.txt

T18-25-28
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:25:28Z
description: tim, does that mean you're off the call?
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T18-25-38
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:25:38Z
description: with the goal of making it possible for the mime type + fragod defining document to be defined bythe same org as defines the format.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-25-49
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:25:49Z
description: 200 @ http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-freed-mime-p4-03.txt
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: draft-freed-mime-p4-03.txt

T18-25-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:25:52Z
description: For exmpale, for postscript it might be an adobe document.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-26-04
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:26:04Z
description: For XML it might be a W3C document.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-26-33
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:26:33Z
description: There are a numebr of people in W3C who are trying to get recogncition that the element scheme in XPointer should become the recognized fragid syntax in XML.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-26-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:26:52Z
description: The XML Core WG, the RFC3032 editors and teh w3C TAg and those present ar interested about this.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-27-05
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:27:05Z
description: I am hereto learnwere er are and where conflicet may lie.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-27-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:27:11Z
description: conflict may lie.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-27-37
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:27:37Z
description: Martin: You could ask for a comment for the last call of ned's draft.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-27-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:27:47Z
description: MSM: when deo sthe last call end?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-27-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:27:52Z
description: Octover 27 - martin d
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-28-11
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:28:11Z
description: Ted: Does Ned's draft fix this problem?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-28-15
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:28:15Z
description: Dan, I don't understand why you are getting a 404.
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T18-28-23
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:28:23Z
description: 4. External Body Access Types
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T18-28-30
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:28:30Z
description: 404 for draft version 00.
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T18-28-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:28:32Z
description: Martin: yes,it allwos for registrations which register external standards.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-28-44
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:28:44Z
description: Ah.
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T18-28-46
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:28:46Z
description: Sorry.
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T18-28-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:28:47Z
description: Ted; That is the first time we have done something liek that.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-29-00
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:29:00Z
description: that wsa MM
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T18-29-12
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:29:12Z
description: ;-)
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T18-29-23
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:29:23Z
description: sorry
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-29-28
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:29:28Z
description: np
creator: Person
  nick: MikeM

T18-29-56
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:29:56Z
description: MSM: Are we trying to p[ersuaede th RFC 3023 authors to change it or should the document go into the XML spec?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-30-09
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:30:09Z
description: Zakim, unmute me
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-30-09-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:30:09Z
description: TimBL should no longer be muted
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-30-22
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:30:22Z
description: The W3C TAG concluded that the two be in eth XML spec.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-30-36
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:30:36Z
description: q+
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-30-48
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:30:48Z
description: What ar eth constraints on XML xcore?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-32-19
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:32:19Z
description: Tim: It is broken for part fo a spec to be in 1 doc and part in another when they ar erevieds difefrently and in different ors.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-33-20
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:33:20Z
description: DanC: Example is multiple root elemenst - allowed by mime type but not by xml spec
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-33-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:33:52Z
description: mm: Does the document address the issuesof how the ietf would be able to review a W3C spec?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-34-06
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:34:06Z
description: martin d: There are some assumptions about how this is done.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-34-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:34:35Z
description: you have to send it to the types-review list ... they they should be explicit .
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-34-46
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:34:46Z
description: Clealry the document ahs to be publically avauilable.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-35-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:35:32Z
description: md: When I talked with Frad in SFO we had some discsuiionsabout what stages in w3c process we should require people to do what.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-35-43
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:35:43Z
description: hmm... 3.2.7 Requirements specific to XML media types
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T18-35-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:35:52Z
description: ... the draft at the moment does not mention w3c process atges, as it i snot a w3c-specific document.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-36-18
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:36:18Z
description: md: ... for exmpale you must have it by candidate rec
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-36-45
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:36:45Z
description: -Michael_Mealling
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-37-06
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:37:06Z
description: ld: is this specific to the m,ime type registration pocess ro more general?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-37-18
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:37:18Z
description: tim: specific, at this stage.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-37-42
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:37:42Z
description: md; There are some rfcs out hter which defien thinsg like HTML, and we publish new specificatiosn, and we have the question of what happens to the old RFCs.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-37-51
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:37:51Z
description: what would the ietf process be?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-37-58
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:37:58Z
description: leslie: good question.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-38-28
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:38:28Z
description: ... things need to be obsolted by something else, which could be a pointer to the new spec.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-38-56
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:38:56Z
description: leslie: The RFC series has vendor and FYI series ... doe sth same ahppen?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-39-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:39:32Z
description: NOT vendor & fyi series -- STD and BCP numbers
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T18-39-45
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:39:45Z
description: STD numbers don't change even as the underlying rfc numbers are updated
creator: Person
  nick: leslie

T18-40-55
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:40:55Z
description: sory
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-40-57
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:40:57Z
description: yes.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-41-13
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:41:13Z
description: We have "latest version" lsist whcih cover reveiisons but not new major versions.
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-41-32
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:41:32Z
description: Leslie: How to work together with email?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-43-10
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:43:10Z
description: proposal: remindrers get sent arount to people who have not doen action items
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-43-22
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:43:22Z
description: -MartinD
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-45-54
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:45:54Z
description: Next meeting?
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-46-13
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:46:13Z
description: 13:00 ET
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-47-07
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:47:07Z
description: Fridat Febraru 06 2004
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-47-39
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:47:39Z
description: 2004-02-06T08:00Z
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-47-42
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:47:42Z
description: http://calendar.sidekick.dngr.com/event
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: http://calendar.sidekick.dngr.com/event

T18-48-19
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:19Z
description: 2004-02-06T20:00Z
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-48-31
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:31Z
description: -Leslie_Daigle
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-48-33
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:33Z
description: -DanC
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-48-35
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:35Z
description: ADJOURNED
creator: Person
  nick: timbl

T18-48-36
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:36Z
description: -Ted_Hardy
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-48-40
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:40Z
description: -TimBL
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-48-47
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:47Z
description: zakim, who is here?
creator: Person
  nick: MSM

T18-48-47-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:47Z
description: On the phone I see Michael
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-48-48
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:48Z
description: On IRC I see MSM, hardie, leslie, Ralph, RRSAgent, Zakim, timbl, DanC, MikeM
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-48-53
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:53Z
description: -Michael
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-48-54
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:48:54Z
description: W3C_IETF()1:00PM has ended
creator: Person
  nick: Zakim

T18-50-28
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:50:28Z
description: Friday, February 6, 2004, at 1:00:00 PM Boston time = Friday, February 6, 2004, at 18:00:00 UTC per http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=6&month=2&year=2004&hour=13&min=0&sec=0&p1=43
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html

T18-52-25
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:52:25Z
description: hardie has left #ietf
creator: Person
  nick: hardie

T18-56-38
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:56:38Z
description: MJDuerst has joined #ietf
creator: Person
  nick: MJDuerst

T18-57-04
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:57:04Z
description: sorry, I dropped out due to the time limit (charge protection) of 1.5h on my calling card.
creator: Person
  nick: MJDuerst

T18-57-33
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:57:33Z
description: At that time, my laptop had already run out of power, and I therefore didn't have the
creator: Person
  nick: MJDuerst

T18-57-37
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:57:37Z
description: access code anymore.
creator: Person
  nick: MJDuerst

T18-57-52
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T18:57:52Z
description: I hope you haven't scheduled the next meeting on a Tuesday
creator: Person
  nick: MJDuerst

T19-03-07
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:03:07Z
description: I have worked hard last time to have this one on a Wednesday :-)
creator: Person
  nick: MJDuerst

T19-07-51
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:07:51Z
description: next one is on a friday
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T19-07-55
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:07:55Z
description: Friday, February 6, 2004, at 1:00:00 PM Boston time = Friday, February 6, 2004, at 18:00:00 UTC per http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=6&month=2&year=2004&hour=13&min=0&sec=0&p1=43
creator: Person
  nick: DanC
relation: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html

T19-37-40
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:37:40Z
description: timbl, for previous IETF/W3C calls, the scribe has (a) formatted the minutes as complete sentences (b) mailed them to the w3c-policy list for review, and after 7 days (c) released them to the public
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T19-38-28
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:38:28Z
description: DanC has left #ietf
creator: Person
  nick: DanC

T19-51-05
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:51:05Z
description: rrsagent, bye
creator: Person
  nick: Ralph

T19-51-05-1
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:51:05Z
description: I see 2 open action items:
creator: Person
  nick: RRSAgent

T19-51-05-2
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:51:05Z
description: ACTION: DanC to get ted's office number to PH [1]
creator: Person
  nick: RRSAgent

T19-51-05-3
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:51:05Z
description: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/10/08-ietf-irc#T17-23-00
creator: Person
  nick: RRSAgent
relation: T17-23-00

T19-51-05-4
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:51:05Z
description: ACTION: Ted to Put cochairs in touch with Liam and Paul. [2]
creator: Person
  nick: RRSAgent

T19-51-05-5
type: chatEvent
date: 2003-10-08T19:51:05Z
description: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/10/08-ietf-irc#T17-36-49
creator: Person
  nick: RRSAgent
relation: T17-36-49