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16:05:05 <Zakim> ok, DanCon
16:21:33 <DanCon> DanCon has changed the topic to: WebOnt (http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/) 23Jan. chair: Guus. scribe: ??
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17:00:33 <ChrisW> zakim, [IBM] is temporarily ChrisW
17:00:34 <Zakim> +ChrisW; got it
17:00:39 <Zakim> +Mike_Dean
17:00:44 <guus> zakim, ??p1 is Guus
17:00:45 <Zakim> +Guus; got it
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17:01:15 <jjc> Zakim, ?P9 is jjc.
17:01:17 <pfps> zakim, ??P6 is pfps
17:01:17 <Zakim> sorry, jjc, I do not recognize a party named '?P9'
17:01:18 <Zakim> +Pfps; got it
17:01:39 <Zakim> +??P11
17:01:48 <jjc> Zakim, ??P9 is jjc.
17:01:49 <Zakim> +Jjc.; got it
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17:03:38 <jhendler> zakim, [umd] is JimH
17:03:40 <Zakim> +JimH; got it
17:03:48 <jhendler> zakim, who is here?
17:03:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, Guus, ChrisW, M_Smith, ??P4, Pfps, Mike_Dean, Jjc., Tim_Finin, ??P11, ??P12, ??P13, ??P14, JimH
17:03:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see nmg, pfps, timfinin, mdean, DeborahMc, ChrisW, guus, jjc, jhendler, Zakim, RRSAgent, logger, DanCon
17:04:15 <jhendler> zakim, ??p0 is ziv
17:04:16 <Zakim> +Ziv; got it
17:04:31 <jhendler> zakim, ??p4 is LarryE
17:04:32 <Zakim> +LarryE; got it
17:04:33 <jjc> Zakim, ??P13 is Heflin.
17:04:34 <Zakim> +Heflin.; got it
17:04:47 <Zakim> +??P16
17:04:54 <jhendler> zakim, ??p11 is nick gibbins
17:04:55 <Zakim> I don't understand '??p11 is nick gibbins', jhendler
17:05:02 <jhendler> zakim, ??p16 is herman
17:05:03 <Zakim> +Herman; got it
17:05:07 <guus> zakim, ??P16 is Masahiro
17:05:08 <Zakim> sorry, guus, I do not recognize a party named '??P16'
17:05:09 <jhendler> zakim, ??p11 is masahiro
17:05:10 <Zakim> +Masahiro; got it
17:05:19 <jhendler> zakim, ??p12 is debM
17:05:20 <Zakim> +DebM; got it
17:05:25 <jhendler> zakim, who is here?
17:05:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ziv, Guus, ChrisW, M_Smith, LarryE, Pfps, Mike_Dean, Jjc., Tim_Finin, Masahiro, DebM, Heflin., ??P14, JimH, Herman
17:05:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see nmg, pfps, timfinin, mdean, DeborahMc, ChrisW, guus, jjc, jhendler, Zakim, RRSAgent, logger, DanCon
17:05:47 <nmg> Zakim, ??P14 is NickG
17:05:48 <Zakim> +NickG; got it
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17:06:28 <jhendler> zakim, who is speaking?
17:06:41 <Zakim> jhendler, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Guus (54%), Jjc. (45%), DebM (4%)
17:06:59 <jhendler> zakim, mute DebM
17:07:00 <Zakim> DebM should now be muted
17:07:12 <jhendler> zakim, unmute DebM
17:07:14 <Zakim> DebM should no longer be muted
17:07:22 <Zakim> +??P17
17:07:27 <jjc> .Zakim, mute jjc.
17:07:34 <jhendler> zakim, ??p17 is rudiger
17:07:35 <Zakim> +Rudiger; got it
17:07:46 <Zakim> +??P18
17:07:50 <Zakim> -Ziv
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17:07:58 <jhendler> zakim, ??p18 is jerome
17:08:00 <Zakim> +Jerome; got it
17:08:01 <jjc> Zakim, who is talking?
17:08:11 <Zakim> jjc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Guus (19%), Jjc. (25%), Jerome (39%)
17:08:14 <Zakim> +DanC
17:08:31 <jjc> Zakim, who is on the phone?
17:08:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus, ChrisW, M_Smith, LarryE, Pfps, Mike_Dean, Jjc., Tim_Finin, Masahiro, DebM, Heflin., NickG, JimH, Herman, Rudiger, Jerome, DanC
17:08:38 <Zakim> +??P0
17:08:48 <jhendler> zakim, ??p0 is ziv
17:08:49 <Zakim> +Ziv; got it
17:08:54 <jjc> Zakim, who is on the phone?
17:08:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus, ChrisW, M_Smith, LarryE, Pfps, Mike_Dean, Jjc. (muted), Tim_Finin, Masahiro, DebM, Heflin., NickG, JimH, Herman, Rudiger, Jerome, DanC, Ziv
17:08:58 <jhendler> zakim, who is here?
17:09:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus, ChrisW, M_Smith, LarryE, Pfps, Mike_Dean, Jjc. (muted), Tim_Finin, Masahiro, DebM, Heflin., NickG, JimH, Herman, Rudiger, Jerome, DanC, Ziv
17:09:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see Massimo, hth, nmg, pfps, timfinin, mdean, DeborahMc, ChrisW, guus, jjc, jhendler, Zakim, RRSAgent, logger, DanCon
17:09:06 <jjc> Zakim, who is talking?
17:09:18 <Zakim> jjc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ziv (16%), Guus (59%), JimH (20%)
17:10:01 <Zakim> +Massimo
17:10:33 <Zakim> +??P19
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17:10:48 <Zakim> +Jos; got it
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17:11:24 <ChrisW> I think it would be useful, Jim, to have a page of links, regardless of the meeting minutes
17:12:58 <jhendler> proposal to accept meeting minutes
17:13:16 <jhendler> ACTION: Guus/Jim to pursue the still missing presentations to link in later
17:13:36 <jhendler> RESOLVED: Accept meeting minutes as record of the Manchester face to face.
17:13:39 <jhendler> ------
17:14:00 <jhendler> DanC - can you talk about RoadMap
17:14:23 <jhendler> Guus - Frank has agreed to write this (replacing Guus for Action)
17:14:39 <jhendler> Chris - thought the roadmap was going to go in every document
17:15:00 <jhendler> Guus - yes,  that is what we discussed
17:15:12 <jhendler> Dan - if it goes in every document we need it
17:15:14 <Zakim> -Jjc.
17:15:28 <jhendler> Guus - I'll talk to Frank and make sure.
17:15:46 <jhendler> ACTION: Guus - to get roadmap done and into every page soon - 1 paragraph about each doc
17:16:15 <Zakim> +??P9
17:16:20 <jjc> Zakim, ??P9 is jjc.
17:16:21 <Zakim> +Jjc.; got it
17:16:26 <jjc> Zakim, who is talking?
17:16:37 <jhendler> DanC - we really don't have time to make this a WG issue.
17:16:40 <Zakim> jjc, listening for 13 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ziv (3%), Guus (4%), M_Smith (40%), LarryE (1%), Mike_Dean (26%)
17:17:00 <jhendler> Mike D - how about we put the roadmap in overview and a shorter thing in the other docs?
17:17:06 <jhendler> Guus, would be okay w/me.
17:17:31 <jhendler> Mike S - links is fine, don't need text in all the documents
17:18:08 <jhendler> Guus - propose we put Roadmap in the overview document, other editors join.
17:19:13 <jhendler> Deb will type this pointer into the irc (name "roadmap" in the overview document)
17:19:20 <jhendler> ----------
17:19:41 <jhendler> document reqs
17:19:49 <jhendler> Actions on heflin (Done)
17:19:56 <jhendler> update terminology - done
17:20:02 <DeborahMc> http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/#roadmap is the suggested link for the roadmap
17:21:57 <Zakim> +??P20
17:22:11 <jhendler> zakim, ??p20 is evan
17:22:12 <Zakim> +Evan; got it
17:22:49 <DanCon> is heflin's action to publish is withdrawn?
17:23:51 <jhendler> ACTION: Connolly re: security - CONT.
17:24:21 <Zakim> + +1.505.984.aaaa
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17:24:30 <jhendler> heflin action to publish is withdrawn, WOWG decision to publish as LC is not.
17:24:39 <jhendler> zakim, ?aaaa is Leo
17:24:40 <Zakim> sorry, jhendler, I do not recognize a party named '?aaaa'
17:24:48 <jhendler> zakim, aaaa is Leo
17:24:49 <Zakim> +Leo; got it
17:25:49 <DanCon> ACTION McGuinness, van Harmelen: OWL Overview draft by Jan20
17:25:49 <DanCon> ACTION Welty, Horan: review Overview by Jan30
17:26:16 <jhendler> ACTION: McGuinness, van Harmelen: OWL Overview draft by Jan20
17:26:29 <jhendler> ACTION: Welty, Horan: review Overview by Jan30
17:26:51 <jhendler> ACTION: McGuinness, van Harmelen: OWL Overview draft by Jan20
17:27:02 <DanCon> ACTION: Hendler to send msg to SemWeb CG about RDF model theory.
17:27:03 <DanCon> DONE
17:27:03 <DanCon> ACTION Patel-Schneider: write to webont WG (only to webont WG) about
17:27:03 <DanCon> the impact of this on OWL.
17:27:03 <DanCon> DONE
17:27:03 <DanCon> ACTION Carroll: review AS & S Section 4
17:27:05 <DanCon> DONE
17:27:07 <DanCon> ACTION Horrocks: review AS & S Appendices
17:27:10 <DanCon> DONE
17:27:11 <DanCon> ACTION Patel-Schneider: keep Dave Beckett informed of status of his 
17:27:13 <DanCon> comments.
17:27:15 <DanCon> DONE
17:27:16 <DanCon> ACTION ter Horst, Pan review semantics
17:27:18 <DanCon> DONE
17:27:20 <DanCon> ACTION AllDifferent: semantics editor (Patel-Schneider)
17:27:22 <DanCon> DONE
17:27:46 <DanCon> DanC: is Pan's review in?
17:28:13 <jhendler> ACTION: Pan to do another review CONTINUED
17:29:01 <jhendler> -------
17:29:07 <jjc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0364.html
17:29:11 <jhendler> Discussion of points raised by Jeremy:
17:29:16 <Zakim> -Massimo
17:29:23 <jhendler> point1 - intersectionOf
17:29:39 <jhendler> is it in Lite?
17:30:09 <Zakim> +Massimo
17:30:20 <jhendler> Jeremy - intersectionOf should not be in Lite
17:30:38 <jhendler> suggest we drop "complete class descriptions" from OWL Lite
17:31:05 <jhendler> Jeremy - i.e. having the IFF on some of these should not be in Lite
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17:32:19 <DanCon> :Man ont:intersectionOf (:Male :Human).
17:32:45 <DanCon> is a "complete class description" for "Man is subclass of male and human and nothing else"
17:32:46 <jhendler> Jeremy explains section
17:34:32 <jhendler> Peter - I don't think this is a contradiction (abst syntax v. graph documents)
17:35:17 <jhendler> Jeremy - Ian's message of yesterday shows that we can build unionOf, intersectionOf, and ComplementOf in Owl Lite
17:36:58 <DanCon> how? like this: :Man ont:intersectionOf (:Male :Human).
17:38:39 <jhendler> Jeremy, why are you (Peter) opposed to removing complete class descriptions?
17:38:45 <jjc> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/guide-src/Guide.html#SetOperators
17:39:08 <jhendler> Peter - jeremy is asking for a large change to Owl Lite
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17:39:24 <jhendler> Jeremy - yes, but prior to this the design was not complete enough to see the issue.
17:39:31 <jjc> this give's a pointer to an example in Guide that is in fact in OWL Lite
17:39:46 <jhendler> DanC - seems to me Jeremy has a technical issue, Peter a procedural one
17:41:02 <jhendler> Mike Smith - how do I declare a class to be complete in the surface syntax?
17:41:51 <jhendler> Mike answers own question - it's if the Owl Lite doc maps you to something the Abstract Syntax call complete
17:43:09 <jhendler> Jeremy - we have two separate decisions -  owl:intersectionOf is not in the feature doc
17:43:17 <jhendler> but the semantic doc includes it
17:44:16 <jhendler> Peter - I believe we decided Owl Lite would include the ability to define a class as a set of necessary and sufficient conditions
17:44:41 <jhendler> Guus - is there enough compelling argument to keep defined classes in Owl:Lite?
17:45:20 <jhendler> Jeremy - we could permit defined classes consisting of one restriction, but it seems like a bad idea.
17:45:39 <jhendler> Jeremy - I could take an action to fornally propose something?
17:46:05 <jhendler> Deb - we need to understand direction of this proposal - can we see a consensus?
17:47:32 <jhendler> (discussion - some simple changes to AS&S could be made, but would have profound implications)
17:48:09 <jhendler> jeremy - someone who wants to use "defining restriction" (i.e. no subclass0 should defend that
17:49:02 <jhendler> ACTION: Jeremy to propose a change to remove complete class definitions from Owl Lite.
17:49:54 <DanCon> jjc, pls give examples of the "collateral damage" in your proposal.
17:50:42 <jhendler> ----
17:50:50 <jhendler> data range issue from Jeremy's email
17:51:00 <DanCon> i.e. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0364.html
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17:53:08 <jhendler> question is whether we should allow  datarange - i.e. should we remove datarange from the abstract syntax?
17:53:30 <jhendler> Peter - datarange is not what you're complaining about -- the real issue is "oneOf over data values"
17:54:47 <jjc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0376.html
17:54:59 <jhendler> Jeremy - the surface syntax is broken  - because parsetype:collection and datatypes don't go together in RDF.
17:56:47 <jhendler> Jeremy - if it looks like a datatype, shouldn't we let xml-schema do this?
17:58:02 <jhendler> Jeremy - oneOf should be restricted from being allowed on literals.
17:58:40 <jhendler> Peter  - this is in Owl Full - because the sequence of triples can be created
17:59:33 <jhendler> Deb - I would object to this
17:59:43 <DanCon> DebM: example: :SaabColor owl:oneOf ("blue" "green" "yellow")
17:59:52 <jhendler> Jeremy - but XML schea should create the datatype
18:00:04 <DanCon> (ironically, it's really easy to express this stuff in N3 ;-)
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18:01:02 <jhendler> Jermoe - we should push XML Schema to have a collection of literals, or RDF
18:01:43 <jhendler> Jeremy - seeing that this is in Full, not in Lite, perhaps we should just leave things as they are
18:02:13 <Zakim> -Herman
18:02:36 <jjc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0376.html
18:03:33 <jhendler> Perhaps we just need to have ugly thing (see URI above) and have ref point to it
18:03:48 <jhendler> ACTION: Jeremy to create test based on 0376 email example
18:04:04 <jhendler> ACTION: Guus to put words in reference w/respect to this.
18:04:08 <jhendler> ----------
18:04:44 <jhendler> Jeremy issue 3 - expression of OWL Lite and OWL DL in RDF Graphs
18:04:52 <jhendler> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0360.html
18:05:08 <jhendler> jjc - this is a substantial disagreement between me and Peter at this point
18:05:47 <timfinin> I have to leave aeary today, so goodbye...
18:05:51 <DanCon> if you have http access, the agenda is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0364.html
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18:05:58 <Zakim> -LarryE
18:06:04 <DanCon> oops; agenda is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0408.html
18:07:07 <DanCon> draft of 4.3 RDF Graphs of OWL Lite Ontologies by jjc is in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/att-0356/01-jjc
18:07:34 <jhendler> q+ to ask about whether these are conflicting or two ways to do same thing?
18:08:03 <jhendler> Peter - I have worries about the fragility of Jeremy's solution
18:08:38 <jhendler> Jeremy - discussion is whether these are both normative
18:08:42 <jhendler> q-
18:09:14 <jhendler> dan - does XSLT mapping follow more easily from one or the other?
18:09:27 <jhendler> Jerome - could you repeat the question?
18:09:33 <jjc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/att-0356/01-jjc
18:10:03 <jhendler> Dan - the XSLT produces a mapping - do you have reflections on Jeremy's document?
18:10:11 <jhendler> Jerome - I did it from Peter's document.
18:10:35 <Zakim> -Leo
18:11:36 <jhendler> Jeremy - having doen this, Peter's thing was very hard to use - my documentcan be seen as explaining his differently
18:12:17 <jhendler> Jeremy - so I want to emphasize the concrete syntax thing
18:15:02 <jhendler> JimH - what iussue are we discussing
18:15:40 <jhendler> DanC - way editor did it works for me
18:15:49 <jhendler> JimH - what is inherently different
18:16:52 <jhendler> Jeremy - to have a principled notion of Lite we need some changes?
18:17:04 <jhendler> Jim - is it a technical or "aesthetic" point?
18:17:23 <jhendler> Jeremy - so ugly it becomes a technical issue
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18:20:06 <jhendler> Jeremy - with not too much work we might be able to create some rationale rules that would at least generate a clean mapping
18:20:41 <jhendler> where eveything created would be a Owl Lite graph
18:21:01 <jhendler> Jeremy - a little more time spent on the mapping rules could make things better
18:21:39 <jhendler> Guus - straw poll on question -- is it worth spending more time on these mapping rules to get this mapping cleaner
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18:23:26 <DanCon> ok, well, we got some data from the straw poll.
18:23:33 <jhendler> straw poll - 8 in favor, 1 against.
18:23:53 <DanCon> and several "it depends"
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18:24:32 <ChrisW> only one editor is on the call
18:24:51 <jhendler> jimH - if we could get someone to work on this with Jeremy from AS&S side it could go quick - if we do it as WG time then it won't happen
18:24:57 <jhendler> Peter - I think it will be too much time
18:25:09 <DanCon> no, that's not what he said...
18:25:16 <DanCon> Peter: I don't have any time to spare on this
18:27:23 <jhendler> JimH could we have LC on Test and AS&S come out together, slightly delayed from other documents LC??
18:28:04 <jhendler> Jeremey - agree that things that change mapping rules need careful consideration w/in AS&S
18:28:52 <DanCon> 10min
18:29:17 <jhendler> extension of meeting 5 min - shift to discussion of test cases
18:29:19 <jhendler> ---
18:29:39 <jhendler> 2.6 test - proposal by Jos to approve a bunch of the test cases (per Jos' Jan 0325 message)
18:30:37 <jhendler> Dan - majority were created by hand, some by other people
18:31:03 <jhendler> Dan - Jena helped format these.
18:31:19 <jhendler> Jos/Jeremy - both of us looked at them
18:31:44 <jhendler> Dan/Jos discuss N3 mapping
18:32:18 <jhendler> Guus - propose to approve these
18:32:35 <jhendler> PROPOSAL: to approve these test cases as per Jos.
18:32:48 <jhendler> RESOLVED: by consensus to approve the test cases Jos mentioned.
18:32:55 <jhendler> ---
18:33:10 <jhendler> Guide actions done, a little minor editing
18:33:23 <DanCon> my action to publish isn't done.
18:33:43 <jhendler> jimH  - guide editors are Mike S, Chris, and Deb M.
18:33:54 <jhendler> action to publish now withdrawn
18:34:03 <jhendler> -----
18:34:19 <jhendler> reference document, all but 2 sections done - some reactions coming in - changes being made
18:34:27 <Zakim> -Rudiger
18:34:34 <DanCon> thanks to the Guide editors for meeting the schedule agreed at the ftf; too bad other risks materialized.
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18:36:03 <Zakim> -Evan
18:36:08 <jhendler> adjourned
18:36:09 <Zakim> -Jerome
18:36:10 <Zakim> -Masahiro
18:36:10 <jhendler> =======
18:36:12 <Zakim> -M_Smith
18:36:13 <Zakim> -DebM
18:36:15 <jhendler> continuing discussion of schedule
18:36:18 <Zakim> -NickG
18:40:59 <ChrisW> the same is true of guide - e.g. if we put intersection in lite then Guide has to change
18:43:09 <mdean> zakim, who's talking
18:43:11 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's talking', mdean
18:43:59 <mdean> zakim, who is talking?
18:44:11 <Zakim> mdean, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Pfps (84%), DanC (10%)
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18:53:23 <Zakim> -Tim_Finin
18:53:53 <Zakim> -Heflin.
18:54:24 <Zakim> -Massimo
18:54:36 <Massimo> Gotta go! Bye.
18:54:37 <ChrisW> zakim, who is here?
18:54:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus, ChrisW, Pfps, Mike_Dean, JimH, DanC, Ziv, Jos, Jjc.
18:54:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see ChrisW, JosD, mdean, DeborahMc, guus, jjc, jhendler, Zakim, RRSAgent, logger, DanCon
18:57:38 <Zakim> -ChrisW
19:00:32 <Zakim> -DanC
19:01:58 <Zakim> -Jos
19:01:59 <Zakim> -Pfps
19:02:04 <Zakim> -Jjc.
19:09:24 <Zakim> -Mike_Dean
19:10:14 <Zakim> -Guus
19:10:16 <Zakim> -JimH
19:10:30 <Zakim> -Ziv
19:10:31 <Zakim> SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has ended
19:21:25 <jhendler> actions
19:21:51 <jhendler> RRSagent, list actions
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> I see 14 open action items:
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus/Jim to pursue the still missing presentations to link in later [1]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-13-16
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus - to get roadmap done and into every page soon - 1 paragraph about each doc [2]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-15-46
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Connolly re: security - CONT. [3]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-23-51
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: McGuinness, van Harmelen: OWL Overview draft by Jan20 [4]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-26-16
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Welty, Horan: review Overview by Jan30 [5]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-26-29
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: McGuinness, van Harmelen: OWL Overview draft by Jan20 [6]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-26-51
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Hendler to send msg to SemWeb CG about RDF model theory. [7]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-27-02
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Carroll to review AS & S Section 4 [8]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-27-03-4
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Horrocks to review AS & S Appendices [9]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-27-07
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AllDifferent to semantics editor (Patel-Schneider) [10]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-27-20
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Pan to do another review CONTINUED [11]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-28-13
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeremy to propose a change to remove complete class definitions from Owl Lite. [12]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-49-02
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeremy to create test based on 0376 email example [13]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T18-03-48
19:21:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to put words in reference w/respect to this. [14]
19:21:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T18-04-04
19:35:17 <jhendler> RRSAgent, good bye
19:35:17 <jhendler> I'm logging. I don't understand 'good bye', jhendler.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
19:35:24 <jhendler> RRSAgent, goodbye
19:35:24 <jhendler> I'm logging. I don't understand 'goodbye', jhendler.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
19:35:34 <jhendler> RRSAgent, bye
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> I see 14 open action items:
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus/Jim to pursue the still missing presentations to link in later [1]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-13-16
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus - to get roadmap done and into every page soon - 1 paragraph about each doc [2]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-15-46
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Connolly re: security - CONT. [3]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-23-51
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: McGuinness, van Harmelen: OWL Overview draft by Jan20 [4]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-26-16
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Welty, Horan: review Overview by Jan30 [5]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-26-29
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: McGuinness, van Harmelen: OWL Overview draft by Jan20 [6]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-26-51
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Hendler to send msg to SemWeb CG about RDF model theory. [7]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-27-02
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Carroll to review AS & S Section 4 [8]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-27-03-4
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Horrocks to review AS & S Appendices [9]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-27-07
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AllDifferent to semantics editor (Patel-Schneider) [10]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-27-20
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Pan to do another review CONTINUED [11]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-28-13
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeremy to propose a change to remove complete class definitions from Owl Lite. [12]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T17-49-02
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeremy to create test based on 0376 email example [13]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T18-03-48
19:35:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to put words in reference w/respect to this. [14]
19:35:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2003/01/23-webont-irc#T18-04-04